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Old 02-11-2011, 23:51
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Now that they're broadcasting in 16:9, could you confirm it was a 'proper' 16:9 version, with the 2.39:1 image letterboxed within the 1.78:1 frame? Ta.
Yes, it was broadcast in the full OAR as you described. They have also shown A League Of Their Own in 2.35:1 in a 4:3 frame before they went widescreen, so I imagine next time it gets an airing it will also be in OAR of 2.35:1.

ITV 2 are showing Payback cropped to 1.85:1 though.
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Old 03-11-2011, 15:01
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Thanks for that confirmation, Paddy.

For the record, SADDLE THE WIND cropped to 1.78:1 on Film 4 yesterday.
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Old 04-11-2011, 11:44
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Does anybody know if Movies4Men actually show their films in the correct OAR or are they over scanned full screen versions matted to fit a 16:9 broadcast.
There are three 2.35:1 playing right at the moment. Likely just show what they get.
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Old 04-11-2011, 15:34
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2.35:1 movies across the Freeview platform for the coming week (5 - 11 November):


Saturday (5 November)

• 300 (5 USA)
• AUSTRALIA (Film 4)
• CONTACT (5 USA)
• DIRTY HARRY (ITV 4)
• FLIGHT OF THE PHOENIX (Film 4)
• FOR YOUR EYES ONLY (ITV 4)
• FREE WILLY (ITV 1)
• HARD TIMES (C5)
• HELLFIGHTERS (C5)
• JAWS (ITV 4)
• KISS ME KATE (BBC 2) [1.75:1] [3-D]
• MAX PAYNE (C4)
• STARMAN (5 USA)
• TAXIDERMIA (Film 4)
• THE THIN RED LINE (More 4)
• TRAINING DAY (ITV 1)
• V FOR VENDETTA (BBC 2)
• YOUNG GUNS II (5 USA)


Sunday (6 November)

• 17 AGAIN (C4)
• AUSTIN POWERS: INTERNATIONAL MAN OF MYSTERY (C5)
• THE COCKLESHELL HEROES (BBC 2)
• DAREDEVIL (C4)
• FANTASTIC FOUR (E4)
• NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN (Film 4)
• OPEN SEASON (C5) [1.85:1] [3-D]
• STARMAN (5 USA)
• STAR TREK VI: THE UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY (Film 4)
• TANGO & CASH (ITV 4)
• THE TREASURE OF PANCHO VILLA (BBC 2) [Superscope (2.00:1)]


Monday (7 November)

• JAWS (ITV 4)
• MONSTER-IN-LAW (Film 4)
• PAYBACK (ITV 2)
• THE TALL MEN (Film 4) [CinemaScope (2.55:1)]


Tuesday (8 November)

• EDISON (C5)
• FLIGHT OF THE PHOENIX (Film 4)
• GUNS AT BATASI (C4)
• HIGH PLAINS DRIFTER (5 USA)
• SADDLE THE WIND (More 4)
• SHANGHAI NOON (5*)


Wednesday (9 November)

• CONSPIRACY THEORY (5 USA)
• DIRTY HARRY (ITV 4)
• GARDEN STATE (Film 4)
• IRON MAN (E4)
• THE LIFE AQUATIC WITH STEVE ZISSOU (BBC 1)
• MR. & MRS. SMITH (Film 4)
• NONE BUT THE BRAVE (More 4)
• ZULU (Film 4) [Super Technirama 70 (2.21:1)]


Thursday (10 November)

• AFTER THE SUNSET (Film 4)
• BOOGIE NIGHTS (ITV 4)
• MAGNUM FORCE (ITV 4)


Friday (11 November)

• AUSTRALIA (Film 4)
• BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES (Film 4)
• DEEP IMPACT (BBC 1)
• FALLING DOWN (ITV 1)
• HEAT (More 4)
• THE MACHINIST [El Maquinista] (Film 4)
• OCTOPUSSY (ITV 4)
• WAR (5 USA)
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Old 05-11-2011, 16:12
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The Americanised version of RUMBLE IN THE BRONX screened OAR on BBC 1 last night.
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Old 05-11-2011, 23:03
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V for Vendetta is again cropped to 16:9 on BBC2, but so far, Training Day is still in 2.35:1 on ITV. I say 'so far' because I couldn't remember if there were any proper opening credits, but there don't seem to be at this point.
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Old 06-11-2011, 13:53
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V for Vendetta is again cropped to 16:9 on BBC2, but so far, Training Day is still in 2.35:1 on ITV. I say 'so far' because I couldn't remember if there were any proper opening credits, but there don't seem to be at this point.
I tuned into TRAINING DAY about a quarter of the way in, and it was still 2.35:1, so I assume the whole film remained that way throughout. If I recall correctly, it's been screened that way on ITV 4, too. Good film.

Pity about V FOR VENDETTA, which is one of my favourite films of the last ten years, and SO appropriate at this time in history, given the activities of the current government (and some of the more fascistic tendencies of the previous government, too).

[sharp intake of breath] Mustn't get too political...
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Old 06-11-2011, 20:11
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A big hand to BBC 2, which screened perennial Sunday afternoon favourite THE COCKLESHELL HEROES in all its CinemaScope glory for the first time ever on terrestrial TV. It's only taken 56 years, but hey!, who's counting?!...
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Old 06-11-2011, 22:13
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AUSTIN POWERS: INTERNATIONAL MAN OF MYSTERY still showing on C5 in 2.35:1, some time after the credits ended. Lame print, though. Very blurry.
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Old 07-11-2011, 00:17
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Yes, Cockleshell Heores and Austin Powers in OAR, only problem is the copy of Austin Powers looks like very bad NTSC conversion, blurry, jumpy and the sound is also very weird. At least Channel 5 managed to show it in OAR, something Channel 4 haven't been able to do the many times they have shown it.
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Old 07-11-2011, 01:53
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Ronin on FX is being shown in 2.35:1. Paris Lockdown(FX) was shown in the correct ratio on Friday as well.
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Old 07-11-2011, 11:31
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Correction to the above. Ronin was on Sky Atlantic. In my defence it had been a very long day
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Old 07-11-2011, 14:51
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Yes, Cockleshell Heores and Austin Powers in OAR, only problem is the copy of Austin Powers looks like very bad NTSC conversion, blurry, jumpy and the sound is also very weird. At least Channel 5 managed to show it in OAR, something Channel 4 haven't been able to do the many times they have shown it.
You're quite right - C4 DID show it many, many, MANY times...
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Old 07-11-2011, 14:55
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Any news on aspect ratio for Let The Right One In and Thirst? They are being shown on Ch4 this coming Saturday. Max Payne looked very good in HD. Shame the film itself is so poor. Even Mile Kunis couldn't save it for me.
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Old 07-11-2011, 18:38
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Any news on aspect ratio for Let The Right One In and Thirst? They are being shown on Ch4 this coming Saturday. Max Payne looked very good in HD. Shame the film itself is so poor. Even Mile Kunis couldn't save it for me.
LTROI was on Film4 a while back but I didn't see it then. It's a fantastic film (I wouldn't give the US remake the time of day) so I hope it wasn't cropped.
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Old 07-11-2011, 19:09
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Any news on aspect ratio for Let The Right One In and Thirst? They are being shown on Ch4 this coming Saturday.
LTROI was, indeed, screened at the original 2.39:1 ratio by Film 4, so you can expect the same treatment this Saturday (though don't quote me on that - even the most reliable broadcasters can have an unexpected wobble on occasion).

As for THIRST, I assume this is the 2009 S.Korean* film? If that's the case, then it was filmed 2.39:1 so it should be broadcast that way, too.

* Two other 'scope' films of fairly recent vintage with the same title are the Australian film of 1979, and an Israel/Palestine co-production from 2004. I just thought I'd mention them in case I'd assumed wrongly about the Korean film. And because I'm a clever clogs.
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Old 07-11-2011, 19:11
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LTROI was on Film4 a while back but I didn't see it then. It's a fantastic film (I wouldn't give the US remake the time of day) so I hope it wasn't cropped.
Cheers DVDFever

The DVD of LTROI is definitely 2.35 : 1. Channel 4 are usually very good with OAR so I'm confident they will get it right. Don't know what Thirst was originally filmed in. I saw it in 16:9 but IMDB has it as 2.35 : 1 also.

The US is not a bad film really. But it can't hold a candle to the Swedish original. I bought the novel from Amazon because the DVD commentary from the writer talks about what they couldn't put in. The two together make a very good pairing.
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Old 07-11-2011, 19:15
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LTROI was, indeed, screened at the original 2.39:1 ratio by Film 4, so you can expect the same treatment this Saturday (though don't quote me on that - even the most reliable broadcasters can have an unexpected wobble on occasion).

As for THIRST, I assume this is the 2009 S.Korean* film? If that's the case, then it was filmed 2.39:1 so it should be broadcast that way, too.

* Two other 'scope' films of fairly recent vintage with the same title are the Australian film of 1979, and an Israel/Palestine co-production from 2004. I just thought I'd mention them in case I'd assumed wrongly about the Korean film. And because I'm a clever clogs.
Cheers for that. I did mean the Korean horror title. I think it is a premiere for Ch4. I watched it online via LoveFilm. Don't think it has been on 4 before. Don't know about Film4 though.

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Been keeping an eye on the thread. Love the info. Haven't posted for a while though. But it is appreciated.
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Old 08-11-2011, 18:31
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Been keeping an eye on the thread. Love the info. Haven't posted for a while though. But it is appreciated.
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Old 08-11-2011, 20:14
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Cheers DVDFever

The DVD of LTROI is definitely 2.35 : 1. Channel 4 are usually very good with OAR so I'm confident they will get it right. Don't know what Thirst was originally filmed in. I saw it in 16:9 but IMDB has it as 2.35 : 1 also.

The US is not a bad film really. But it can't hold a candle to the Swedish original. I bought the novel from Amazon because the DVD commentary from the writer talks about what they couldn't put in. The two together make a very good pairing.
I saw review saying that the US version was okay, and even saw one review give it 4/5, but I saw a clip and just thought, "What's the point?" The original was fantastic, so why sully my impression of it?

I rarely read books, but have bought this one... although, like myself, it's still on the shelf
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Old 08-11-2011, 21:41
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I saw review saying that the US version was okay, and even saw one review give it 4/5, but I saw a clip and just thought, "What's the point?" The original was fantastic, so why sully my impression of it?

I rarely read books, but have bought this one... although, like myself, it's still on the shelf
Once they decided to use young actors to play the leads it meant they had to leave out some things. The director and writer talk about this on the DVD commentary. So I bought the book because wanted to learn more of the story. Especially where Eli comes from. The film is basically a love story. The book gives more insight into the other characters. Especially the ''drinking club members''
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Old 09-11-2011, 14:55
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I saw LET ME IN before I saw the original LET THE RIGHT ONE IN and didn't think there was much between them in terms of enjoyment factor. I didn't think either one was a masterpiece, but the remake was remarkably sober and as true to the original as it could be.

I just wish the market had allowed the original version to go into cinemas and reap all the financial rewards it (probably) deserved, rather than an unnecessary English-language remake. It's a source of great sadness to me that all foreign language movies - no matter how commercial - are sidelined as 'Art house' fare in the UK and US and thereby prone to struggle within the market.

Bit of a surprise last night: 5* screened SHANGHAI NOON at something approximating the original 2.39:1 ratio.
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Old 11-11-2011, 14:59
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2.35:1 movies across the Freeview platform for the coming week (12 - 18 November):

Saturday (12 November)

• CONQUEST OF THE PLANET OF THE APES (Film 4)
• CONTACT (5 USA)
• FREE WILLY 2 [Free Willy 2: The Adventure Home] (ITV 1)
• HEAT (More 4)
• HIGH PLAINS DRIFTER (5 USA)
• ISOLATION (Film 4)
• JAWS 2 (ITV 4)
• KING ARTHUR (BBC 3)
• LARA CROFT: TOMB RAIDER (C5)
• LET THE RIGHT ONE IN [Lεt den Rδtte Komma In] (C4)
• OCTOPUSSY (ITV 4)
• THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE (Film 4)
• ROOSTER COGBURN (More 4)
• THIRST [박쥐] (C4)
• TWILIGHT (C4)
• TWO MULES FOR SISTER SARA (5 USA)
• YOUNG GUNS II (5 USA)


Sunday (13 November)

• AVALANCHE EXPRESS (C5)
• GORGEOUS [玻璃樽] (5 USA)
• THE GREAT ESCAPE (C5)
• ICE AGE: DAWN OF THE DINOSAURS (C4) [1.85:1] [3-D]
• IRON MAN (E4)
• ROMANCE & CIGARETTES (BBC 2)
• THE SQUARE (Film 4)
• TMNT (5*)


Monday (14 November)

• CHEYENNE AUTUMN (Film 4) [Super Panavision 70 (2.21:1)]
• DREAMGIRLS (Film 4)
• MAGNUM FORCE (ITV 4)
• MR. & MRS. SMITH (Film 4)
• A PERFECT WORLD (C5)
• SHANGHAI NOON (5*)


Tuesday (15 November)

• JAWS 2 (ITV 4)
• OPERATION CROSSBOW (Film 4)
• WAR (5 USA)


Wednesday (16 November)

• ANNE OF THE THOUSAND DAYS (ITV 1)
• THE BANK JOB (Film 4)
• THE GAME (ITV 4)
• HUNGER (Film 4)
• KING ARTHUR (BBC 3)
• MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE III (E4)
• NORTHFORK (Film 4)
• PROOF OF LIFE (5 USA)
• WILLARD (C4)


Thursday (17 November)

• THE CONQUEROR (Film 4) [CinemaScope (2.55:1)]
• FREEDOMLAND (5 USA)
• GENOVA (Film 4)
• MONSTERS (Film 4)
• THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE (Film 4)
• THE TRUE STORY OF JESSE JAMES (More 4)
• WELCOME TO SARAJEVO (Film 4)


Friday (18 November)

• AROUND THE WORLD IN 80 DAYS (Film 4)
• BATMAN BEGINS (ITV 2)
• GODZILLA (5*)
• ROOSTER COGBURN (More 4)
• SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE (ITV 3)
• A TIME TO KILL (More 4)
• TRANSPORTER 3 [Le Transporteur 3] (C4)
• VACANCY (C5)
• A VIEW TO A KILL (ITV 4)
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Old 12-11-2011, 14:19
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By the way, apologies for consistently missing OPERATION CROSSBOW from the weekly listings - I keep getting it mixed up with another regular visitor to the C4 platform, OPERATION AMSTERDAM, which is framed at 1.66:1. It's there in the latest listing, but only just...
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Old 12-11-2011, 16:20
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Free Willy 2 was shown in OAR on ITV1 this afternoon
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