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Channels Showing Full Widescreen Films
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Braindead2011
03-01-2012
I suspect that people will write in to those channels and complain about all these 2:35 films on their 16:9 TV sets. They didn't buy them to have a lot of black screen area. They use the zoom facility like my nan to fill their entire screen.

Half A Sixpence on BBC4 opened its credits to Scope and then settled the film onto 16:9 for the rest of the transmission. So it managed to fill the screen if seen via Freeview.
Fran Blakes
03-01-2012
Saturday night (i think) I was disappointed that channel 4 showed Porridge the film 4:3 IMDB has it as 1.85:1
porkpie
03-01-2012
Originally Posted by Braindead2011:
“I suspect that people will write in to those channels and complain about all these 2:35 films on their 16:9 TV sets. They didn't buy them to have a lot of black screen area. They use the zoom facility like my nan to fill their entire screen.

Half A Sixpence on BBC4 opened its credits to Scope and then settled the film onto 16:9 for the rest of the transmission. So it managed to fill the screen if seen via Freeview.”

Fortunately backward thinking of that type is on the way out which is why we are getting films in their correct ratio rather than with parts of the image chopped off.
porkpie
03-01-2012
Originally Posted by Fran Blakes:
“Saturday night (i think) I was disappointed that channel 4 showed Porridge the film 4:3 IMDB has it as 1.85:1”

The dvd is 4:3.
It would have been shot 1.66:1 so 4:3 or 16:9 is a reasonable compromise either way.

I expect they're still showing the existing 4:3 master
Libretio
06-01-2012
Here's one I missed earlier:

It turns out the TV miniseries THE WITCHES OF OZ (broadcast during the week by C5) was shot in HD with anamorphic lenses. Unfortunately, C5 curtailed the credits, so I couldn't confirm which lenses were used, but the closing titles were 2.35:1 and the image during the story itself was clearly cropped at either side. 'Twill be interesting to see what ratio is used when this one makes it to DVD (if it hasn't already, that is).
Libretio
06-01-2012
2.35:1 movies across the Freeview platform for the coming week (7 - 13 January):


Saturday (7 January)

• ABOUT A BOY (ITV 2)
• BRIDGET JONES'S DIARY (ITV 2)
• CATWOMAN (ITV 1)
• DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE (BBC 1) [Panavision]
• DODGEBALL: A TRUE UNDERDOG STORY (C4)
• DRAGON: THE BRUCE LEE STORY (5 USA) [Panavision]
• FERRIS BUELLER'S DAY OFF (Film 4)
• L.A. CONFIDENTIAL (C4)
• NIGHT AT THE MUSEUM 2 [Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian] (Film 4)
• OCEAN'S TWELVE (ITV 2)
• SANDS OF THE KALAHARI (5 USA) [Panavision]
• THE SLIPPER AND THE ROSE: THE STORY OF CINDERELLA (C5) [Panavision]
• TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN (Film 4) [Panavision / IMAX] [2.39 and 1.44:1]
• WALK DON'T RUN (5 USA) [Panavision]


Sunday (8 January)

• THE 51st STATE (Film 4)
• (500) DAYS OF SUMMER (C4)
• ALASKA (E4)
• ALONG CAME A SPIDER (Film 4) [Panavision]
• AVALANCHE EXPRESS (Film 4) [Panavision]
• THE CHRONICLES OF NARNIA: PRINCE CASPIAN (BBC 3)
• THE DEVIL WEARS PRADA (C4)
• DONNIE DARKO (BBC 3) [Panavision]
• EVAN ALMIGHTY (ITV 2)
• EVER AFTER (C4)
• THE GOLDEN COMPASS (Film 4)
• GREYSTOKE: THE LEGEND OF TARZAN - LORD OF THE APES (C5)
• KISS ME KATE (BBC 4) [Metrovision Tri-Dee (3-D)] [1.75:1]
• MASTERMINDS (5 USA)
• RESERVOIR DOGS (C5)
• THE SAFETY OF OBJECTS (Film 4)
• SWAT (C5)


Monday (9 January)

• 17 AGAIN (Film 4)
• DISTRICT 13 [Banlieue 13] (Film 4)
• FALLING DOWN (ITV 4) [Panavision]
• THE HOT ROCK (Film 4) [Panavision]
• HUNGER (Film 4) [Techniscope]
• I ♥ HUCKABEES (Film 4)
• McLINTOCK! (More 4) [Panavision]


Tuesday (10 January)

• THE BADLANDERS (C4) [CinemaScope]
• CATWOMAN (ITV 2)
• CHAOS (5 USA)
• HE'S JUST NOT THAT INTO YOU (Film 4) [Panavision]
• KNIGHTS OF THE ROUND TABLE (Film 4) [CinemaScope] [2.55:1]


Wednesday (11 January)

• BRIDGET JONES'S DIARY (ITV 2)
• BUFFALO SOLDIERS (C4)
• DRAGON: THE BRUCE LEE STORY (5 USA) [Panavision]
• EAGLE EYE (BBC 3)
• THE ENEMY BELOW (Film 4) [CinemaScope]
• I, ROBOT (Film 4)
• KISS THEM FOR ME (Film 4) [CinemaScope]
• MERRILL'S MARAUDERS (C4) [Anamorphic]
• ON DEADLY GROUND (ITV 4) [Clairmont Scope]
• OUTLAND (ITV 1) [Panavision]
• PAYBACK (ITV 1)
• THE WEDDING PLANNER (E4) [Panavision]


Thursday (12 January)

• AVALANCHE EXPRESS (Film 4) [Panavision]
• DO NOT DISTURB (Film 4) [CinemaScope]
• EVAN ALMIGHTY (ITV 2)
• FREDDY VS. JASON (Film 4)
• KULL THE CONQUEROR (ITV 4)


Friday (13 January)

• THE CLIENT (More 4) [Panavision]
• FRIDAY THE 13th (Film 4) [Panavision]
• GRIDIRON GANG (5 USA)
• KULL THE CONQUEROR (ITV 4)
• THE LIFE OF DAVID GALE (ITV 3) [J-D-C Scope]
• RUSH HOUR 3 (Film 4) [Panavision]
Dar W
06-01-2012
The Adele at the Albert Hall concert shown on New Years Day night was shown in a widescreen format.Even tho it was in a building it had a very epic look to it in that ratio.
jzee
06-01-2012
Fifty Dead Men Walking on BBC TWO in 2.35:1.
Libretio
07-01-2012
Originally Posted by jzee:
“Fifty Dead Men Walking on BBC TWO in 2.35:1.”

But sadly not BEAUFORT directly afterward on the same channel.
Dar W
07-01-2012
Die Hard With A Vengeance now showing in its original ratio at the mo on BBC1
DVDfever
07-01-2012
Originally Posted by Dar W:
“Die Hard With A Vengeance now showing in its original ratio at the mo on BBC1”

Indeed. First time ever, too. About Yippee-kay-ay Motherflipping time!
PhilH36
07-01-2012
But it will be the cut version no doubt.
Dar W
07-01-2012
Originally Posted by PhilH36:
“But it will be the cut version no doubt.”

The BBC have a good track record of showing the uncut version
DVDfever
07-01-2012
Originally Posted by Dar W:
“The BBC have a good track record of showing the uncut version”

Never realised they'd shown it uncut before. Just saw the lift scene (which lasts about two seconds on DVD) and there was a lot more to it, including Bruce getting his face sprayed with blood as he blew the last guy's brains out.
Dar W
07-01-2012
Originally Posted by DVDfever:
“Never realised they'd shown it uncut before. Just saw the lift scene (which lasts about two seconds on DVD) and there was a lot more to it, including Bruce getting his face sprayed with blood as he blew the last guy's brains out.”

I think the only bit that could be a bit dis-jointed is the chain fight near the end.I got the dvd from Germany and the bit at the end of that is slightly cut but cant remember if the Beeb show it or not.Must rate well for the Beeb as they do show it a lot
PhilH36
08-01-2012
I thought the BBC usually showed the print with some of the language toned down,maybe not.
DVDfever
08-01-2012
Originally Posted by PhilH36:
“I thought the BBC usually showed the print with some of the language toned down,maybe not.”

C4 do with Die Hard 4.0, ie. the cinema version, whereas there's a 'Harder Version' on DVD only (not Blu-ray, sadly) which has a lot more f-words including the catchphrase said properly and not blanked out by a gunshot.
Libretio
08-01-2012
Originally Posted by PhilH36:
“But it will be the cut version no doubt.”

The BBC tends to show BBFC-approved versions of individual films (there are exceptions, but these are rare) and DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE was passed uncut - retaining the original 15 certificate - a coupla years ago for the DVD re-release. And while I didn't see the Beeb's broadcast - I thought DHWAV was the very worst of the DH series - I suspect it's that version that went on-air.
PhilH36
08-01-2012
Noticed it's on iplayer so I may have a look on there.
Cobblers74
09-01-2012
It was the complete version of Die Hard with a Vengeance shown on BBC1, and not the toned-down one released for a 15-cert to cinemas and DVDs in this country.

The BBFC have since passed the uncut version, ironically deciding it now only warrants a 15-cert anyway, but it's not been released thus far - there were rumours that a box set release was uncut a few years ago but I think it turned out not to be so. Certainly, the special editions of all four box set I have still has the truncated version.

Only the second and third films were pruned for lower certificates in the UK, the fourth was always designed to be a PG-13 with an unrated version for DVD release - both the PG-13 and unrated versions being deemed worthy of a 15-cert in the UK.

Full list of the differences can be found at the bottom of this page on Melonfarmers:

http://www.melonfarmers.co.uk/hitsdh2.htm
pad_ehh
09-01-2012
All versions though cut the chain fight on the boat between McClane and Targo. We see McClane start to hit Targo and then it very badly cuts to McClane bending down beside Targo to take something from his now limp and lifeless body and then run on. We see Targo going from falling to the ground to being dead with no explanation other than McClane swinging a chain at him.

I wonder if we will ever get a proper uncut UK release of the film. I bought the 2 disc R1 DVD from America and it has all the language and violence in, but it also removes the chain scene. I had originally bought the trilogy box-set and while Parts 1 and 2 were on new discs and completely uncut, Part 3 was on old discs they had just put into the box for the sake of it, they even had the old BBFC 80's/90's '15' logo instead of the new ones that were created in 2003 so you could tell they were the old versions of the film from the late 90's.
PhilH36
09-01-2012
Another UK oddity with the Die Hard films was that the full screen/4:3 VHS release of Die Hard 2 was a 15 whilst the widescreen version was an 18.
Libretio
09-01-2012
Originally Posted by PhilH36:
“Another UK oddity with the Die Hard films was that the full screen/4:3 VHS release of Die Hard 2 was a 15 whilst the widescreen version was an 18.”

That's because the BBFC passed a cut version for cinema at 15, then allowed an uncut widescreen version at 18 for VHS release (alongside a censored 15 full-screen print). Ferman put a stop to this pretty sharpish, deciding that films passed with cuts for cinema (ie. cut for category, in order to reach a wider audience, rather than censorship per se) could no longer be restored for video, using a completely self-serving argument that the cinema rating created an expectation amongst audiences - particularly parents - for the video print that would be compromised if different versions were allowed from one platform to another. It was an outrageous assertion, but perfectly in keeping with Ferman's ridiculous notion that the BBFC was some kind of moral arbiter, and that the working classes must be protected from the worst excesses of Hollywood action cinema of the time. Gawd gimme strength...

(500) DAYS OF SUMMER and THE SAFETY OF OBJECTS premiered across the C4 platform at the original 2.39:1 yesterday, as expected, but E4 ran yet another cropped/reframed version of ALASKA. I'm sure that one has played on Film 4 at the original ratio.

DEVILS OF DARKNESS was shown on BBC 2 the other night at 16:9, but it looked like a 1.37:1 print windowboxed within the 16:9 frame, with huge mattes at either side and tiny slivers at top and bottom. It looks like this was the same print used by Odeon Entertainment for their letterboxed 4:3 DVD, since it contained all material excised by the BBFC in the mid-1960's and subsequently restored for home video. I was hoping jzee would be able to confirm the actual ratio of the presentation, but I've never seen a film shown like this (to such an extreme) on TV before. Maybe they thought such a scrappy 1960's screamie - broadcast in the middle of the night - would go completely unnoticed?...

Just for the record, DOD was released on DVD in the US at 1.85:1, but the amount of cropping suggested the actual ratio was probably 1.66:1.
Libretio
09-01-2012
Scope and 3-D films released on UK Blu-ray (9 - 15 January):

• APOCALYPSE NOW (1979) [Technovision]
• THE BIG PICTURE [L'Homme qui Voulait Vivre Sa Vie] (2010)
• CELL 211 [Celda 211] (2009)
• COLOMBIANA (2011)
• IN A BETTER WORLD [Hζvnen] (2010)
• UP (2009) [3-D] [1.85:1]



Scope and 3-D films released on US Blu-ray (10 - 16 January):

• 1911 [辛亥革命] (2011)
• 8 MILE (2002)
• AMERICAN GRAFFITI (1973) [Techniscope]
• COOL HAND LUKE (1967) [Panavision]
• FEVER PITCH (2005)
• INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS (2009) [Panavision]
• KILLER ELITE (2011)
• LEGALLY BLONDE (2001)
• NEVER BEEN KISSED (1999)
• RIO (2011) [CGI Widescreen / 3-D]
• SEABISCUIT (2003)
• SHALLOW HAL (2001)
• SINNERS AND SAINTS (2010)
• THERE BE DRAGONS (2011)
Dar W
09-01-2012
On the 2nd January listings,is Revolutionary Road missing ?? Went to watch it on i player and the Dreamworks logo and the one after is in 2.35:1 but the film goes to 1.78:1.
On play.com it says its in 2.35:1
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