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Libretio
04-03-2012
Hooray! DEATH DEFYING ACTS screened OAR on BBC 2.

Booo! ALASKA cropped to buggery on C4 (I know they've screened it OAR before, but only once, if memory serves me correctly).
DVDfever
04-03-2012
Originally Posted by Libretio:
“Booo! ALASKA cropped to buggery on C4 (I know they've screened it OAR before, but only once, if memory serves me correctly).”

Has it been shown in 2.35:1? IMDB lists it at 16:9, albeit filmed at 2.35:1.

I'm in the middle of watching We Need to Talk About Kevin, and it's quite freshing to see a modern film that's been shot in anamorphic Panavision. Super 35 just looks so bloody dull by comparison.
Libretio
05-03-2012
Originally Posted by DVDfever:
“Has it been shown in 2.35:1? IMDB lists it at 16:9, albeit filmed at 2.35:1.”

Indeed it has. I'm afraid the IMDb doesn't know what it's talking about. Even if the film HAD been shot Super 35 for a 'flat' (rather than a scope) release print, the AR would have been 1.85:1 and not 1.78:1. That's what comes of allowing just about anyone to offer uncorroborated info for the tech section.

Originally Posted by DVDfever:
“I'm in the middle of watching We Need to Talk About Kevin, and it's quite freshing to see a modern film that's been shot in anamorphic Panavision. Super 35 just looks so bloody dull by comparison.”

Couldn't agree more. It's because the open frame (in the DP's viewfinder) allows for much looser compositions, which has the inevitable effect of rendering compositions flat and ungainly, not helped by incessant close-ups and medium shots, and editing by people who clearly have Attention Deficit Disorder. There's no excuse for it: If you missed WICKER PARK last night, try and catch a repeat, since that film demonstrates a remarkable use of the scope frame, despite being shot in Super 35. I'm guessing the DP and director made no attempt to compromise for TV and simply concentrated on the theatrical frame - I can think of no other reason why it should look so good in terms of scope framing.

Other stuff: Despite trailers which indicated it might be cropped to 1.78:1, INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS went out at the original 2.39:1 on C4 last night, along with RAPT on BBC 4.
Libretio
05-03-2012
(Unless otherwise indicated, all films in the following list were projected at 2.35:1 prior to 1971, and at 2.39:1 thereafter)


I'm hearing ugly reports that the much anticipated BR release of DRACULA: PRINCE OF DARKNESS is spoiled by audio sync issues - the soundtrack lags behind the visuals by about a second. That might not sound much, but try watching a film where every sound effrect and every bit of spoken dialogue is delayed on-screen, making it look like a badly dubbed foreign movie! It can drive a viewer completely potty (I've seen a number of DVD's with this issue, and it drives me into a murderous frenzy if I don't have my pills to hand!!).


Scope and 3-D films released on UK Blu-ray (5 - 11 March):

• ANONYMOUS (2011)
• COLUMBUS CIRCLE (2012)
• DRACULA: PRINCE OF DARKNESS (1965) [Techniscope]
• THE IDES OF MARCH (2011)
• IMMORTALS (2011) [2-D to 3-D] [1.85:1]
• SKET (2011)
• URBAN EXPLORERS [Urban Explorer] (2011)

Scope and 3-D films released on US Blu-ray (6 - 12 March):

• COLUMBUS CIRCLE (2012)
• THE DEER HUNTER (1978) [Panavision]
• DESPICABLE ME (2010) [3-D] [1.85:1]
• DISCLOSURE (1994) [Panavision]
• FOOTLOOSE (2011)
• IMMORTALS (2011) [2-D to 3-D] [1.85:1]
• THE MAN FROM SNOWY RIVER (1982) [Panavision]
• REINDEER GAMES (2000)
• THE TOWN (2010)
eyeblink
05-03-2012
Originally Posted by Libretio:
“HELLFIGHTERS got its 2.35:1 'premiere' on Channel 4 the other day. After years of pan-scan atrocities, there it was - larger than life, and twice as welcome! The broadcast version featured a stereo soundtrack, but I don't have a record of the film being released theatrically with anything other than a mono soundtrack. That doesn't mean to say it wasn't mixed in stereo, but it seems a bit iffy, if you ask me...”

According to this source it was blown up to 70mm, with a six-track soundtrack - which back then would have been five front channels and a mono surround. Maybe there were 35mm prints with 4-track mag soundtracks as well, though that's speculation on my part.

I didn't catch the broadcast, but from what I saw on Iplayer, Hard Candy was shown in 16:9, opened up from the theatrical 2.39:1.
DVDfever
06-03-2012
Originally Posted by eyeblink:
“I didn't catch the broadcast, but from what I saw on Iplayer, Hard Candy was shown in 16:9, opened up from the theatrical 2.39:1.”

Was it opened up? I saw a bit of it (haven't seen it before) and it looked badly zoomed in.
eyeblink
06-03-2012
Originally Posted by DVDfever:
“Was it opened up? I saw a bit of it (haven't seen it before) and it looked badly zoomed in.”

I assumed it was, given that it was a Super 35 production. If I remember rightly from when I saw it in the cinema, it's pretty tightly framed when seen in 2.39:1. Admittedly that's probably intentional as what's going on below the frame line is important (no spoilers for anyone reading who hasn't seen it).
Libretio
06-03-2012
Originally Posted by eyeblink:
“According to this source [HELLFIGHTERS] was blown up to 70mm, with a six-track soundtrack - which back then would have been five front channels and a mono surround. Maybe there were 35mm prints with 4-track mag soundtracks as well, though that's speculation on my part.”

I looked at your link, eyeblink (thanks for that!), and while I'm very familiar with in70mm.com (an excellent site, but not infallible, as I'm about to explain), but I'm not sure this entry confirms anything, and here's why:

I'd have to find confirmation of an Australian 70mm release for this title in a secondary source, since it's always best to double-check these things. Even so, a 70mm print doesn't automatically guarantee 6-track audio, despite what it says at in70mm.com.

Look at some of the European titles on that listing - I TRE CHE SCONVOLSERO IL WEST (VADO, VEDO E SPARO) and EL MAGNIFICO TONY CARRERA, for example. There were literally dozens of 70mm blow-ups released in Spain during the 1960's and 70's, yet there's no evidence the vast majority of them played in anything other than mono sound. '70mm' was ballyhooed on the ad-mats, but very few of them mentioned anything about multi-track sound.

In other words, in70mm.com is wrong to list 6-track stereo alongside all of these films. At best, they should say 'Unknown' for entries where the audio configuration has yet to be confirmed.

Which is why I'm reluctant to say for certain that HELLFIGHTERS definitely sported multi-track audio for some English-speaking territories, because there's no evidence to support it outside of the entry in this particular source.

In other news: AUSTIN POWERS: INTERNATIONAL MAN OF MYSTERY played OAR on the 5* channel last night.
DVDfever
07-03-2012
Originally Posted by Libretio:
“In other news: AUSTIN POWERS: INTERNATIONAL MAN OF MYSTERY played OAR on the 5* channel last night.”

I remember that showing properly before, but the print quality was abysmal.
Libretio
09-03-2012
(Unless otherwise indicated, all films in the following list were projected at 2.35:1 prior to 1971, and at 2.39:1 thereafter)


Scope and 3-D movies across the Freeview platform for the coming week (10 - 16 March):


Saturday (10 March)

(500) DAYS OF SUMMER (Film 4)
THE BLACK WINDMILL (ITV 4) [Panavision]
BLOOD ALLEY (C5) [CinemaScope] [2.55:1]
CARRIERS (Film 4)
CUSTER OF THE WEST (5 USA) [Super Technirama 70] [2.21:1]
DEEP IMPACT (BBC 3)
EVAN ALMIGHTY (ITV 1)
THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS: TOKYO DRIFT (ITV 1)
THE GREEN BERETS (C5) [Panavision]
HITCH (5*)
THE JACKET (ITV 2)
JOY RIDE (Film 4)
KELLY'S HEROES (ITV 4) [Panavision]
RESERVOIR DOGS (5 USA)
THE SECRET WAR OF HARRY FRIGG (ITV 4) [Techniscope]
SWISS FAMILY ROBINSON (Film 4) [Panavision]
THUNDERBALL (ITV 4) [Panavision]


Sunday (11 March)

17 AGAIN (Film 4)
BIRDWATCHERS [BirdWatchers: La Terra degli Uomini Rossi] (BBC 4)
THE BLACK WINDMILL (ITV 4) [Panavision]
EQUILIBRIUM (Film 4)
THE FINAL DESTINATION (C4) [Fusion 3-D]
FIRST KNIGHT (BBC 2)
FROST/NIXON (BBC 4)
KANGAROO JACK (ITV 2) [Panavision]
KISS THE GIRLS (Film 4) [Panavision]
LAYER CAKE (C5) [J-D-C Scope]
THE SCORPION KING (ITV 2)
THUNDERBALL (ITV 4) [Panavision]
THE WACKNESS (BBC 2)
ZOOLANDER (Film 4)


Monday (12 March)

CALIFORNIA DREAMIN' [NESFARSIT] (Film 4)
GRIDIRON GANG (C5)
I STILL KNOW WHAT YOU DID LAST SUMMER (5*) [Panavision]
JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH (Film 4) [CinemaScope]
REVOLVER (C5)
TOP GUN (Film 4)


Tuesday (13 March)

FAME (Film 4)
INTO THE WILD (Film 4)
IT RUNS IN THE FAMILY (BBC 1)
SUDDEN IMPACT (5 USA)
UNIVERSAL SOLDIER: REGENERATION (ITV 4)
THE WOODLANDERS (Film 4)


Wednesday (14 March)

23 PACES TO BAKER STREET (Film 4) [CinemaScope]
ALIEN (E4) [Panavision]
CONFESSIONS OF A SHOPAHOLIC (BBC 3) [Panavision]
DO NOT DISTURB (Film 4) [CinemaScope]
THE FIFTH ELEMENT [Le Cinquiθme Ιlιment] (5*)
KEEPING MUM (Film 4) [Panavision]
METRO (BBC 3) [Panavision]
STORM OVER THE NILE (Film 4) [CinemaScope]
TAXI (Film 4)


Thursday (15 March)

CASINO (ITV 4)
EQUILIBRIUM (Film 4)
THE KING (Film 4)
TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN (Film 4) [Panavision / IMAX] [2.39:1 and 1.44:1]
xXx (C5) [Panavision]


Friday (16 March)

17 AGAIN (Film 4)
(500) DAYS OF SUMMER (Film 4)
THE COMANCHEROS (Film 4) [CinemaScope]
CONAN THE DESTROYER (ITV 4) [J-D-C Scope]
THE LAND GIRLS (More 4) [Panavision]
THE LAST CASTLE (BBC 1) [Panavision]
MAD MAX 2 (ITV 1) [Panavision]
MASH (Film 4) [Panavision]
THE MASK OF ZORRO (5*) [J-D-C Scope]
PUSHING TIN (C4)
eyeblink
10-03-2012
Originally Posted by Libretio:
“I looked at your link, eyeblink (thanks for that!), and while I'm very familiar with in70mm.com (an excellent site, but not infallible, as I'm about to explain), but I'm not sure this entry confirms anything, and here's why:

I'd have to find confirmation of an Australian 70mm release for this title in a secondary source, since it's always best to double-check these things. Even so, a 70mm print doesn't automatically guarantee 6-track audio, despite what it says at in70mm.com.

Look at some of the European titles on that listing - I TRE CHE SCONVOLSERO IL WEST (VADO, VEDO E SPARO) and EL MAGNIFICO TONY CARRERA, for example. There were literally dozens of 70mm blow-ups released in Spain during the 1960's and 70's, yet there's no evidence the vast majority of them played in anything other than mono sound. '70mm' was ballyhooed on the ad-mats, but very few of them mentioned anything about multi-track sound.

In other words, in70mm.com is wrong to list 6-track stereo alongside all of these films. At best, they should say 'Unknown' for entries where the audio configuration has yet to be confirmed.

Which is why I'm reluctant to say for certain that HELLFIGHTERS definitely sported multi-track audio for some English-speaking territories, because there's no evidence to support it outside of the entry in this particular source.”

Here's another source from the same site, which lists HELLFIGHTERS as playing in London in 70mm in 1969.

Interesting list. I saw quite a few of those on their releases from DUNE in 1984 onwards. (Though my first 70mm showing was APOCALYPSE NOW at the Prince Charles a year earlier.) I notice that at least three titles on there are blowups from black and white Scope - IN HARM'S WAY, IS PARIS BURNING? and THE LONGEST DAY. Presumably they were printed on colour 65mm stock as, as far as I know, b/w 70mm film didn't and doesn't exist, so I wonder how they looked like blown up? Grainy, I'd expect.

If we're talking about films and directors who do make good use of Scope, I'll nominate Fred Schepisi. All but one of his cinema features (THE DEVIL's PLAYGROUND is the exception) are in Scope and he - and his DPs, for all except LAST ORDERS Ian Baker - has used both anamorphic and Super 35. It's anamorphic for THE CHANT OF JIMMIE BLACKSMITH up to EVIL ANGELS/A CRY IN THE DARK, Super 35 from SIX DEGREES OF SEPARATION onwards apart from his co-directed patch-up job on FIERCE CREATURES which is anamorphic. I mention this as one of his films I haven't seen, IT RUNS IN THE FAMILY, is on next week. By all accounts it's not great, but I'll give it a look. Radio Times says it'll be shown widescreen, but we'll have to see if that means 16:9 or 2.35:1.

I only saw the beginning, as my digibox had recorded it on the end of The Review Show, but TORMENTED was in 2.35:1 on BBC2 last night.
Libretio
12-03-2012
BIRDWATCHERS and THE WACKNESS premiered at 2.39:1 on TV last night (on BBC's 4 and 2, respectively), while FROST/NIXON was given a second scope outing on BBC 4.
Libretio
12-03-2012
(Unless otherwise indicated, all films in the following list were projected at 2.35:1 prior to 1971, and at 2.39:1 thereafter)


Scope and 3-D films released on UK Blu-ray (12 - 18 March):

• THE BIG BANG (2011)
• BREAKING DAWN PART 1 (2011)
• MY WEEK WITH MARILYN (2011)
• SPECIAL FORCES [Forces Spιciales] (2011)
• STRAW DOGS (2011)


Scope and 3-D films released on US Blu-ray (13 - 19 March):

• THE ADVENTURES OF TINTIN: THE SECRET OF THE UNICORN (2011) [3-D]
• AMERICAN WEDDING (2003)
• BODY OF LIES (2008)
• ELECTION [黑社會] (2005) [Technovision]
• HAPPY FEET TWO (2011) [3-D]
• THE INCREDIBLE HULK (2008) [Panavision]
• MELANCHOLIA (2011)
• MY WEEK WITH MARILYN (2011)
• ROBIN HOOD (2010)
• THREE KINGS (1999)
• THE THREE MUSKETEERS (2011) [Fusion 3-D]
• TRIAD ELECTION [Election 2] [黑社會以和為貴] (2006) [Technovision]
• TRUE ROMANCE (1993) [Panavision]
DVDfever
13-03-2012
Originally Posted by Libretio:
“BIRDWATCHERS and THE WACKNESS premiered at 2.39:1 on TV last night (on BBC's 4 and 2, respectively), while FROST/NIXON was given a second scope outing on BBC 4.”

Did they drop the BBC4 logo?

I meant to record The Wackness*, but I've kind of stopped recording films on my TiVo as I never get round to watching them when they're in SD (it's the original TiVo, but hey, it was free). Back to the plot, though, and The Wackness did get a proper airing on BBC1 sometime last year, but I can't remember when exactly, other than it being on at 10.35pm on a Monday night.

(*He directed 50/50 which I saw on Saturday night, and it was fantastic. Far more engaging than I thought it would be. A solid 9/10)
Libretio
13-03-2012
Originally Posted by DVDfever:
“Did they drop the BBC4 logo?”

Sadly, I didn't see enough of either broadcast to notice, especially since I wasn't looking for the logo. However, I watched my recording of RAPT last night (also broadcast on BBC 4) and that was logo-free. Framed at 2.39:1, too, if it wasn't mentioned before.
mwardy
13-03-2012
Originally Posted by DVDfever:
“Did they drop the BBC4 logo?”

There was no logo on Frost/Nixon. They usually do drop it for films (thank God).
eyeblink
16-03-2012
Originally Posted by eyeblink:
“[...] IT RUNS IN THE FAMILY, is on next week. By all accounts it's not great, but I'll give it a look. Radio Times says it'll be shown widescreen, but we'll have to see if that means 16:9 or 2.35:1.”

It was shown in 16:9. So I didn't bother watching it and will wait for it to come to the top of my Lovefilm rental list.
Libretio
16-03-2012
(Unless otherwise indicated, all films in the following list were projected at 2.35:1 prior to 1971, and at 2.39:1 thereafter)


Scope and 3-D movies across the Freeview platform for the coming week (17 - 23 March):


Saturday (17 March)

• BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID (More 4) [Panavision]
• CASINO (ITV 4)
• CONFESSIONS OF A DANGEROUS MIND (BBC 3)
• CONFESSIONS OF A SHOPAHOLIC (BBC 3) [Panavision]
• COPYCAT (C4) [Panavision]
• CROMWELL (BBC 2) [Panavision]
• CUSTER OF THE WEST (5 USA) [Super Technirama 70] [2.21:1]
• FREDDY VS. JASON (Film 4)
• THE GREEN BERETS (C5) [Panavision]
• HITMAN (E4)
• KANGAROO JACK (ITV 2) [Panavision]
• THE LAND GIRLS (More 4) [Panavision]
• THE MASK OF ZORRO (5*) [J-D-C Scope]
• McQ (5 USA) [Panavision]
• RESIDENT EVIL: APOCALYPSE (Dave)
• RV: RUNAWAY VACATION [RV] (C5)
• THE SCORPION KING (ITV 2)


Sunday (18 March)

• THE ALAMO (ITV 4) [Todd-AO] [2.21:1]
• ANZIO (5 USA) [Panavision]
• DRILLBIT TAYLOR (C4)
• FAME (Film 4)
• FLIPPER (ITV 2)
• THE GAME (ITV 4)
• THE HITCHHIKER'S GUIDE TO THE GALAXY (BBC 2)
• I, ROBOT (C5)
• KINSEY (Film 4) [J-D-C Scope]
• THE LEGEND OF ZORRO (C5)
• MEMOIRS OF AN INVISIBLE MAN (Film 4) [Panavision]
• MISS CONGENIALITY 2: ARMED & FABULOUS (ITV 2)
• THE NEVERENDING STORY [Die Unendliche Geschichten] (ITV 2) [Technovision]
• RAMBO (C5)
• ROUND IRELAND WITH A FRIDGE (BBC 4)
• THE SIMPSONS MOVIE (C4) [CGI Widescreen]
• THE TAMING OF THE SHREW (BBC 2) [Panavision]
• TAXI (Film 4)


Monday (19 March)

• THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE (ITV 2) [Panavision]
• ERAGON (Film 4)
• EXECUTIVE DECISION (C5) [Panavision]
• THE FIFTH ELEMENT [Le Cinquiθme Ιlιment] (5*)
• THE SENTINEL (Film 4)
• THUNDER OVER ARIZONA (More 4) [Naturama]


Tuesday (20 March)

• D-DAY THE SIXTH OF JUNE (C4) [CinemaScope]
• DO NOT DISTURB (Film 4) [CinemaScope]
• KEEPING MUM (Film 4) [Panavision]
• THE LAST OF THE MOHICANS (5 USA) [Panavision]
• THE PROPOSITION (Film 4)
• STORMBREAKER (Film 4)


Wednesday (21 March)

• THE COMANCHEROS (Film 4) [CinemaScope]
• CONAN THE DESTROYER (ITV 4) [J-D-C Scope]
• DEATHWATCH (Film 4)
• MISS CONGENIALITY 2: ARMED & FABULOUS (ITV 2)
• STAR TREK: INSURRECTION (E4) [Panavision]
• SWEET CHARITY (ITV 1) [Panavision]


Thursday (22 March)

• CLEANER (C5)
• GHOSTS OF GIRLFRIENDS PAST (Film 4)
• SMOKIN' ACES (ITV 4)
• UP PERISCOPE (C4) [WarnerScope]


Friday (23 March)

• 21 (5*)
• AIR AMERICA (ITV 1)
• BULLWHIP (Film 4) [CinemaScope]
• BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID (More 4) [Panavision]
• THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE (ITV 2) [Panavision]
• HITMAN (E4)
• IN HER SHOES (More 4)
• JAWS (ITV 1) [Panavision]
• SAHARA (C4)
• THE SPY WHO LOVED ME (ITV 4) [Panavision]
• THE TOWERING INFERNO (ITV 3) [Panavision]
Kevin1960
17-03-2012
Mad Mel 2 on ITV1 and The Last Castle (a Robert Redford film I've never heard of) on BBC1 were both shown in AOR last night.
Libretio
17-03-2012
Originally Posted by Kevin1960:
“Mad Mel 2 on ITV1 and The Last Castle (a Robert Redford film I've never heard of) on BBC1 were both shown in AOR last night.”

Indeed they were. Unfortunately, THE LAND GIRLS (More 4) and PUSHING TIN (C4) were both unexpectedly cropped to hell and back, though it has to be said, C4 has screened cropped and OAR versions of THE LAND GIRLS in the past. Not sure why that should be the case, but there you go...
DVDfever
18-03-2012
Originally Posted by Kevin1960:
“Mad Mel 2 on ITV1 and The Last Castle (a Robert Redford film I've never heard of) on BBC1 were both shown in AOR last night.”

I saw a few mins of the latter, but missed the former.

Was Cromwell shown in OAR today? I was out when it was on and thought I'd be back in time.

Didn't realise RV was 2.35:1 until I looked it up. Saw a few mins and it looked like a typical 16:9 family film.
Libretio
18-03-2012
Originally Posted by DVDfever:
“Was Cromwell shown in OAR today? I was out when it was on and thought I'd be back in time.”

'Fraid not. Buy (or rent) the DVD, and you'll see it's one of those films that uses the e-n-t-i-r-e w-i-d-t-h of the scope frame from one shot to the next.

Originally Posted by DVDfever:
“Didn't realise RV was 2.35:1 until I looked it up. Saw a few mins and it looked like a typical 16:9 family film.”

You mean (cough! splutter!)... you mean, you had to double-check that I was telling the truth when I listed it as scope? (clasps back of hand to forehead in distinctly effeminate manner) I'm shocked - nay, stunned (stunned, d'ya hear!) - by your lack of trust in my abilities. Sackcloth and ashes for you, my lad.*

* Either that, or a pat on the back for doing the sensible thing and not accepting every bit of rubbish you read on the 'Net as gospel truth. And gawd knows, I churn out plenty of 'bits of rubbish' that need to be double-checked on a daily basis.
Libretio
18-03-2012
Originally Posted by Libretio:
“Unfortunately, THE LAND GIRLS (More 4)... [was] unexpectedly cropped to hell and back, though it has to be said, C4 has screened cropped and OAR versions of THE LAND GIRLS in the past. Not sure why that should be the case, but there you go...”

And just to make a liar out of me, THE LAND GIRLS was repeated on More 4 last night - at the original aspect ratio!! Make yer bleedin' mind up, sez I...!
DVDfever
18-03-2012
Originally Posted by Libretio:
“You mean (cough! splutter!)... you mean, you had to double-check that I was telling the truth when I listed it as scope? (clasps back of hand to forehead in distinctly effeminate manner) I'm shocked - nay, stunned (stunned, d'ya hear!) - by your lack of trust in my abilities. Sackcloth and ashes for you, my lad.*

* Either that, or a pat on the back for doing the sensible thing and not accepting every bit of rubbish you read on the 'Net as gospel truth. And gawd knows, I churn out plenty of 'bits of rubbish' that need to be double-checked on a daily basis. ”



Nah, I was just looking it up on IMDB after I saw the credits were in 2.35:1 when I wasn't expecting that. Plus, I couldn't remember who played the daughter. I thought it was Lindsay Lohan, but saw it was Joey JoJo Shabadoo, or something like that. A one-hit wonder, anyway
Libretio
19-03-2012
THE TAMING OF THE SHREW (BBC 2) and FLIPPER (ITV 2) both screened OAR yesterday.

Can't believe I forgot to check that magnificent, action-packed masterpiece ROUND IRELAND WITH A FRIDGE (no, I'd never heard of it, either) on BBC 4. Anyone know if it was screened in scope?
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