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Libretio
23-08-2012
Originally Posted by eyeblink:
“The BFI have released 16mm-shot material on Blu-ray (or more often these days, dual-format) before, including some extremely out-of-the-way stuff, and I do know that they are keen advocates for Blu-ray in general.”

Oh, I agree on both counts - the BFI really IS keen on BR, regardless of a film's acquisition format (I'm waiting for them to announce a HD upgrade for something shot in Super-8!!). What I meant to emphasise was that the upgrade to HD wouldn't make that much of a discernible difference to the visual quality ('discernible' being the key word here), though it would mean preserving the film's original theatrical frame rate (24fps rather than PAL's 25fps), along with other benefits unique to the BR format.
eyeblink
23-08-2012
Originally Posted by Libretio:
“ (I'm waiting for them to announce a HD upgrade for something shot in Super-8!!). .”

That would be a bit far even for them. The films on their recent release THE EROTIC FILMS OF PETER DE ROME were shot in Super 8 (and at 18 fps too) and that was released DVD-only.

I'm reliably advised that 1080p is about the highest resolution you can sensibly transfer a 16mm original at - any higher resolution won't get any more out of the material. So for Super 8 material, DVD resolution is plenty.
Libretio
23-08-2012
Originally Posted by eyeblink:
“That would be a bit far even for them. The films on their recent release THE EROTIC FILMS OF PETER DE ROME were shot in Super 8 (and at 18 fps too) and that was released DVD-only.”

I was thinking along the lines of something like PINK NARCISSUS, which the (notoriously unreliable) IMDb says was shot in a combination of 16mm and 8mm. If true, I'm assuming there was more of the latter than the former, since the picture quality of the DVD version was quite poor - even though we're told this is the best the film has ever looked, anywhere!!
Libretio
24-08-2012
(Unless otherwise indicated, all films in the following list were projected at 2.35:1 prior to 1971, and at 2.39:1 thereafter)

New feature!!
* = May not be screened in all areas (check your local listings).

Not sure which version Film 4 will be screening (short US print or original full-length UK edition), but the Radio Times has them due to screen CURSE OF THE DEMON on Sunday night, not NIGHT OF THE DEMON as it was known in the UK. I'm not even sure why US distribs even opted to change the title for US audiences, since the original was perfectly OK, but there it is. Aspect ratio is 1.66:1, whatever print is shown. And if you've never seen it before, give yourselves a treat and take a look - it really IS as good as its reputation suggests. Depending on which version is broadcast, of course...


Scope and 3-D movies across the Freeview platform for the coming week (25 - 31 August):


Saturday (25 August)

• ABOUT A BOY (ITV 2)
• AROUND THE WORLD IN 80 DAYS (Film 4)
• BLUE THUNDER (C5) [Panavision]
• THE BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI (Dave) [CinemaScope] [2.55:1]
• DIE HARD 4.0 [Live Free or Die Hard] (Film 4)
• DUPLICITY (ITV 1) [Panavision]
• THE KENTUCKIAN (5 USA) [CinemaScope] [2.55:1]
• KING OF KINGS (More 4) [Super Technirama 70] [2.21:1]
• THE LOVED ONES (Film 4)
• THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN (5 USA) [Panavision]
• MAMMA MIA! (ITV 2) [Panavision]
• PEARL HARBOR (5*) [Panavision]
• PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: THE CURSE OF THE BLACK PEARL (BBC 1)
• RAID ON ROMMEL (5 USA) [Techniscope]
• RUNAWAY BRIDE (Film 4)
• SHALAKO (ITV 4) [Franscope]
• A VIEW TO A KILL (ITV 1) [Panavision]
• xXx (Dave) [Panavision]


Sunday (26 August)

• THE ALAMO (ITV 4) [Todd-AO] [2.21:1]
• ANGUS, THONGS AND PERFECT SNOGGING (Film 4)
• BLACK KNIGHT (Film 4)
• BRIDESHEAD REVISITED (BBC 4)
• THE BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI (Dave) [CinemaScope] [2.55:1]
• THE FINAL DESTINATION (Film 4) [Fusion 3-D]
• FLASHBACKS OF A FOOL (BBC 1) [Panavision]
• RUSH HOUR 3 (Film 4) [Panavision]
• TOMORROW NEVER DIES (ITV 1) [Panavision]
• X-MEN ORIGINS: WOLVERINE (C4)


Monday (27 August)

• THE ALAMO (ITV 4) [Todd-AO] [2.21:1]
• AVATAR (Film 4) [Fusion 3-D] [1.85:1]
• BANDSLAM (Film 4)
• THE DESCENT (Film 4)
• EAGLE EYE (BBC 1)
• THE INCREDIBLE HULK (ITV 2) [Panavision]
• ISOLATION (Film 4)
• LARA CROFT: TOMB RAIDER - THE CRADLE OF LIFE (BBC 3) [Panavision]
• THE PERFECT STORM (5*) [Panavision]
• THE RARE BREED (ITV 4) [Panavision]
• SERENITY (ITV 1)


Tuesday (28 August)

• BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID (C4) [Panavision]
• NOTTING HILL (ITV 2)
• THE SIMPSONS MOVIE (Film 4) [CGI]
• THE SPIDERWICK CHRONICLES (Film 4)
• STEALTH (5 USA) [Panavision]
• THOSE MAGNIFICENT MEN IN THEIR FLYING MACHINES OR HOW I FLEW FROM LONDON TO PARIS IN 25 HOURS 11 MINUTES (Film 4) [Todd-AO] [2.21:1]
• THE TIME TRAVELER'S WIFE (Film 4)
• WHEN EIGHT BELLS TOLL (More 4) [Panavision ]


Wednesday (29 August)

• BLACK KNIGHT (Film 4)
• FLIGHTPLAN (BBC 1)
• INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM (BBC 3) [Panavision]
• THE JACKET (ITV 1)
• MONSTERS (Film 4)
• NEVER SO FEW (More 4) [Panavision]
• NURSE BETTY (Film 4)
• THE RIDDLE OF THE SANDS (Film 4) [Panavision]


Thursday (30 August)

• DEAR JOHN (Film 4)


Friday (31 August)

• ANGUS, THONGS AND PERFECT SNOGGING (Film 4)
• BEDAZZLED (Film 4) [Panavision]
• THE DARJEELING LIMITED (C4) [Panavision]
• DEEP BLUE SEA (ITV 1)*
• THE DEPARTED (More 4)
• DIE HARD 4.0 [Live Free or Die Hard] (Film 4)
• THE EXORCISM OF EMILY ROSE (5*)
• THE FINAL DESTINATION (Film 4) [Fusion 3-D]
• THE LONG KISS GOODNIGHT (5 USA)
• MAMMA MIA! (ITV 2) [Panavision]
• MANHUNTER (ITV 4)
• THE SPIDERWICK CHRONICLES (Film 4)
• STAY ALIVE (ITV 1)
Libretio
25-08-2012
Forgot to mention it earlier, but both MOTHER (Film 4) and NEW TOWN KILLERS (BBC 1) were both screened OAR on Thursday night.
DVDfever
26-08-2012
Anyone know if the new Total Recall has any scenes opening up to 1.44:1 in IMAX? IMDB just lists 2.35:1, which I know isn't always accurate, but if it's 2.35:1 throughout then I can't see the point of the IMAX screening.

Dark Knight Rises was good for the 1.44:1 bits, but the 2.35:1 segments were very flat, or rather a bit stretched given how we were to the right of centre, so faces on the right-hand side often looked a bit odd.
Libretio
27-08-2012
Originally Posted by DVDfever:
“Anyone know if the new Total Recall has any scenes opening up to 1.44:1 in IMAX? IMDB just lists 2.35:1, which I know isn't always accurate, but if it's 2.35:1 throughout then I can't see the point of the IMAX screening.”

Opening up to 1.44:1 only occurs when the film in question contains material specifically filmed in IMAX, so TOTAL RECALL will be 2.39:1 throughout. It's not so unusual, since many 'scope' films have been transferred to IMAX at a fixed ratio. It's the 21st century equivalent of 'blowing up' a film and releasing it in 70mm - back in the 1960's-1980's, it was 5-perf 70mm, now it's 15-perf.
Libretio
27-08-2012
(Unless otherwise indicated, all films in the following list were projected at 2.35:1 prior to 1971, and at 2.39:1 thereafter)

More 2-D to 3-D conversion nonsense from Germany this week, with two BR's listed at Amazon UK: The 2011 China/HK co-production of THE WOMAN KNIGHT OF MIRROR LAKE [競雄女俠秋瑾] - released on BR in Germany under the title WOMAN KNIGHT - and the 2007 Thai film THE BODYGUARD 2 [บอดี้การ์ดหน้าเหลี่ยม 2], released on BR in Germany as TJ: NEXT GENERATION, capitalising on the presence of Tony Jaa in the cast.


Scope and 3-D films released on UK Blu-ray (27 August - 2 September):

• THE DINOSAUR PROJECT (2012)
• THE LUCKY ONE (2012)
• OUTPOST: BLACK SUN (2012)
• REDLINE (2007)
• TRUTH OR DARE (2012)


Scope and 3-D films released on US Blu-ray (28 August - 3 September):

• AIRPORT (1969) [Todd-AO] [2.21:1]
• BATTLESHIP (2012) [Panavision]
• DARLING COMPANION (2012)
• HEADHUNTERS [Hodejegerne] (2011)
• THE HEINEKEN KIDNAPPING [De Heineken Ontvoering] (2011)
• L!FE HAPPENS (2012) [Techniscope]
• THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING (2001)
• THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING (2003)
• THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE TWO TOWERS (2002)
• THE LUCKY ONE (2012)
• MONSIEUR LAZHAR [Bachir Lazhar] (2011)
• THE PIRATES! BAND OF MISFITS [The Pirates! In An Adventure With Scientists] (2011) [3-D]
• SCARFACE (1983) [Panavision]
• THE VIRAL FACTOR [逆戰] (2012)
CJClarke
27-08-2012
Originally Posted by Libretio:
“Opening up to 1.44:1 only occurs when the film in question contains material specifically filmed in IMAX, so TOTAL RECALL will be 2.39:1 throughout. It's not so unusual, since many 'scope' films have been transferred to IMAX at a fixed ratio. It's the 21st century equivalent of 'blowing up' a film and releasing it in 70mm - back in the 1960's-1980's, it was 5-perf 70mm, now it's 15-perf.”

This isn't always the case, Prometheus wasn't filmed with IMAX cameras but it filled the entirety of the IMAX (Digital) screen for all of it's running time, presumably it was cropped from it's native aspect ratio.

Likewise, none of the The Hunger Games or The Amazing Spiderman were filmed in IMAX but a couple of scenes from both films "opened up" to fill the screen.
Libretio
28-08-2012
Originally Posted by CJClarke:
“This isn't always the case, Prometheus wasn't filmed with IMAX cameras but it filled the entirety of the IMAX (Digital) screen for all of it's running time, presumably it was cropped from it's native aspect ratio.

Likewise, none of the The Hunger Games or The Amazing Spiderman were filmed in IMAX but a couple of scenes from both films "opened up" to fill the screen.”

That IS a surprise, moreso because these films were shot in HD or regular 35mm, which doesn't really lend itself to 15-perf exhibition. The producers will have spent some money covering the worst of it, but the Large Format will have stretched their image quality to the absolute limit.

By the way, on an unrelated topic: Though I bitched about 'CURSE' OF THE DEMON - as it was listed in the Radio Times - the film itself was uncut and shown on Film 4 under its original UK title NIGHT OF THE DEMON. And I hope anyone who saw it for the first time enjoyed the hell out of it.
Libretio
31-08-2012
(Unless otherwise indicated, all films in the following list were projected at 2.35:1 prior to 1971, and at 2.39:1 thereafter)

* = May not be screened in all areas (check your local listings).

Scope and 3-D movies across the Freeview platform for the coming week (1 - 7 September):


Saturday (1 September)

• CASINO ROYALE (ITV 4) [Panavision]
• CROUCHING TIGER, HIDDEN DRAGON [臥虎藏龍] (Dave)
• THE DEPARTED (More 4)
• ENSIGN PULVER (BBC 2) [Panavision]
• FIRST MEN IN THE MOON (Film 4) [Panavision]
• THE INCREDIBLE HULK (ITV 2) [Panavision]
• THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN (5 USA) [Panavision]
• THE MASK OF ZORRO (5*) [J-D-C Scope]
• THE PERFECT STORM (5*) [Panavision]
• PERFECT STRANGER (5 USA)
• PLANET OF THE APES (Film 4) [Panavision]
• PRIDE & PREJUDICE (ITV 1)
• THE RARE BREED (ITV 4) [Panavision]
• THE SIMPSONS MOVIE (Film 4) [CGI]
• xXx: THE NEXT LEVEL [xXx: State of the Union] (Dave)


Sunday (2 September)

• BANDSLAM (Film 4)
• THE BEST OF MEN (BBC 2)
• CASINO ROYALE (ITV 4) [Panavision]
• CHIEF CRAZY HORSE (5 USA) [CinemaScope] [2.55:1]
• CREATION (BBC 4)
• FAILURE TO LAUNCH (Film 4)
• INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM (BBC 3) [Panavision]
• THE MASK OF ZORRO (5*) [J-D-C Scope]
• REIGN OVER ME (C5)


Monday (3 September)

• GLADIATOR (ITV 2)
• LAND OF THE DEAD (ITV 1)
• NEVER SO FEW (More 4) [Panavision]
• THOSE MAGNIFICENT MEN IN THEIR FLYING MACHINES OR HOW I FLEW FROM LONDON TO PARIS IN 25 HOURS 11 MINUTES (Film 4) [Todd-AO] [2.21:1]
• TRANSPORTER 3 [Le Transporteur 3] (Film 4)
• THE WARLORDS [投名狀] (Film 4)


Tuesday (4 September)

• BEDAZZLED (Film 4) [Panavision]
• DEAR JOHN (Film 4)
• FIRST MEN IN THE MOON (Film 4) [Panavision]
• THE LONG KISS GOODNIGHT (5 USA)
• MANHUNTER (ITV 4)


Wednesday (5 September)

• ENEMY OF THE STATE (BBC 1) [Panavision]
• INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE (BBC 3) [Panavision]
• THE JACKET (ITV 1)*
• THE OUTRAGE (Film 4) [Panavision]
• THE SEEKER: THE DARK IS RISING (E4)
• THREE KINGS (ITV 2)
• WANTED (ITV 2)


Thursday (6 September)

• DOMINO (Film 4)
• EVAN ALMIGHTY (ITV 2)
• FAILURE TO LAUNCH (Film 4)
• TOP GUN (Film 4)


Friday (7 September)

• CAPTIVITY (ITV 1)
• IT'S ALL GONE PETE TONG (BBC 2)
• PLANET OF THE APES (Film 4) [Panavision]
Libretio
03-09-2012
CREATION screened OAR on BBC 4 last night. I may be wrong about this ("What - again?!!", I hear you all cry in unison), but I coulda sworn this premiered on BBC 2 in a cropped format.
Libretio
03-09-2012
(Unless otherwise indicated, all films in the following list were projected at 2.35:1 prior to 1971, and at 2.39:1 thereafter)

The 2-D film WAR FLOWERS (2011) has now reached the UK in a 3-D conversion for Blu-ray. Avoid like the plague!!


Scope and 3-D films released on UK Blu-ray (3 - 9 September):

• THE AGGRESSION SCALE (2012) [HD]
• AMSTERDAM HEAVY (2011)
• THE DESCENDANTS (2011)
• THE HUNGER GAMES (2011)
• JAWS (1975) [Panavision]
• PIRANHA 3DD (2012) [3-D] [1.85:1]
• [REC]³: GΙNESIS (2012) [Hawk Scope (HD)]
• SALMON FISHING IN THE YEMEN (2011) [Hawk Scope]
• UNDERGROUND (2010) [Anamorphic (HD)]


Scope and 3-D films released on US Blu-ray (4 - 10 September):

• BRIDESMAIDS (2011)
• CRAZY HEART (2009)
• THE DEVIL WEARS PRADA (2006)
• EVER AFTER (1998)
• HARRY POTTER AND THE CHAMBER OF SECRETS (2002)
• HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS PART I (2010)
• HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS PART II (2011) [3-D]
• HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE (2005)
• HARRY POTTER AND THE HALF-BLOOD PRINCE (2009) [3-D (partly)]
• HARRY POTTER AND THE ORDER OF THE PHOENIX (2007) [3-D (partly)]
• HARRY POTTER AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN (2004)
• HARRY POTTER AND THE SORCERER'S STONE (2001)
• HIGH SCHOOL (2010)
• JUST WRIGHT (2010)
• LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE (2006)
• MOULIN ROUGE! (2001) [Panavision]
• MR. & MRS. SMITH (2005)
• NEVER BEEN KISSED (1999)
• PIRANHA 3DD (2012) [3-D} [1.85:1]
• QUICK [퀵] (2011)
• RESIDENT EVIL: AFTERLIFE (2010) [Fusion 3-D]
• RESIDENT EVIL: APOCALYPSE (2004)
• RESIDENT EVIL: EXTINCTION (2007)
• SAFE (2012)
• WALK THE LINE (2005)
• WHIP IT (2009) [Panavision]
• WHITE VENGEANCE [鴻門宴] (2011)
• WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE'S ROMEO & JULIET (1996) [Panavision]
• WOMAN THOU ART LOOSED: ON THE 7th DAY (2012)
jenzie
03-09-2012
HOLOCAUST 2000 premiered on the horror channel at the weekend in a nice shiny 2.35x1 print
Libretio
03-09-2012
Originally Posted by jenzie:
“HOLOCAUST 2000 premiered on the horror channel at the weekend in a nice shiny 2.35x1 print”

I've waited years to see this Omen rip-off... er, I mean, 'homage'. A recent US DVD was cropped to 1.78:1, and the few UK TV screenings have all been cropped and censored (the 'helicopter incident' was always curtailed, though this was back in the days when overt violence was cut even late at night - it would probably get through without a care these days).
Radiomike
04-09-2012
TCM SD now broadcasting in anamorphic widescreen with correct aspect ratios - no more stretchyvision!

TCM HD should launch later this morning on Sky.
revans9
04-09-2012
Originally Posted by Radiomike:
“TCM SD now broadcasting in anamorphic widescreen with correct aspect ratios - no more stretchyvision!

TCM HD should launch later this morning on Sky.”

FINALLY! Been waiting for TCM to sort themselves out ratio-wise for years. so irritating
DVDfever
05-09-2012
Not a widescreen issue, but is this a 'premiere' of sorts?

ITV have got the uncut Memphis Belle for a late-night screening, with 'SNAFU' in full. There's only a PG DVD out in the UK. I just caught this moment by chance while flicking through channels. I expected it to be cut at the usual point: "SNAFU: Situation Normal..." (and then cuts to the next scene)

That said, there's still an f-word that's sneaked through on the DVD anyway:

Spoiler
Late on, when they're coming home, they throw all their weaponry out the 'window', one of them exclaims: "Shit on a stick. F**k!"
pad_ehh
06-09-2012
ITV have done this before. I remember them showing the 12 version of Hot Shots, complete with F word, around midnight sometime last year, but Channel 4's copy that they repeat a lot on Film 4 is the PG version. Two instances where ITV could be applauded. I feel dirty saying that...
Libretio
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by Paddy C:
“ITV have done this before. I remember them showing the 12 version of Hot Shots, complete with F word, around midnight sometime last year, but Channel 4's copy that they repeat a lot on Film 4 is the PG version. Two instances where ITV could be applauded. I feel dirty saying that...”

Quite. Wash your mouth out with soap and water, you heathen, you...

It's years since I saw MEMPHIS BELLE and didn't know the UK version was cut (probably for commercial reasons at the time of the film's theatrical release, when the BBFC wouldn't allow an uncut version to go out subsequently on home video), but it's good to know these things continue filtering into our media outlets.

As the immortal Frankie Howerd used to say: "Late, but welcome..."
eyeblink
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by Libretio:
“Quite. Wash your mouth out with soap and water, you heathen, you...

It's years since I saw MEMPHIS BELLE and didn't know the UK version was cut (probably for commercial reasons at the time of the film's theatrical release, when the BBFC wouldn't allow an uncut version to go out subsequently on home video), but it's good to know these things continue filtering into our media outlets.

As the immortal Frankie Howerd used to say: "Late, but welcome..."”

I saw MEMPHIS BELLE in the cinema on release and that full line was definitely in there. The BBFC gave it a 12 in the cinema but IIRC back in 1991 they hadn't introduced the 12 certificate for homevideo, so Warners must have decided to cut for a PG instead of having the video go out with a 15.
theonlyweeman
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by eyeblink:
“I saw MEMPHIS BELLE in the cinema on release and that full line was definitely in there. The BBFC gave it a 12 in the cinema but IIRC back in 1991 they hadn't introduced the 12 certificate for homevideo, so Warners must have decided to cut for a PG instead of having the video go out with a 15.”

If the 12 existed before the 12A, why'd they bother changing it? All the 12A's I've seen had no body 12 or younger in them...
alcockell
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by theonlyweeman:
“If the 12 existed before the 12A, why'd they bother changing it? All the 12A's I've seen had no body 12 or younger in them...”

PG-13 is advisory rather than mandatory... so they altered 12 to 12A for cinema at the time of the Tobey Maguire Spiderman version.
theonlyweeman
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by alcockell:
“PG-13 is advisory rather than mandatory... so they altered 12 to 12A for cinema at the time of the Tobey Maguire Spiderman version.”

The first film classified 12A by the BBFC was The Bourne Identity, Spiderman was later reclassified down from a 12. (Though some councils had already overruled the BBFC's rating, turning the film into a PG (in East Anglia) and a so called called PG-12 (in Manchester)).
Libretio
07-09-2012
Originally Posted by theonlyweeman:
“The first film classified 12A by the BBFC was The Bourne Identity, Spiderman was later reclassified down from a 12. (Though some councils had already overruled the BBFC's rating, turning the film into a PG (in East Anglia) and a so called called PG-12 (in Manchester)).”

The 12 was introduced to bridge the enormous gap between PG and 15 which existed at a time when US films with a PG-13 rating were either too strong for a PG or too mild for a 15. And the PG-13 had been introduced in the US because of films like POLTERGEIST, GREMLINS and INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM, all rated PG in the States and all the subject of controversy (and rightly so - the MPAA had no business allowing such films to go out with a PG - and no, I don't think it's a coincidence that Spielberg's name is on all of these films in various capacities...).

But the 12 was highly controversial at times. I remember standing in line to see the 1989 version of BATMAN (I was young and foolish) and seeing pre-teen kids being ejected from the queue, with no hope of them getting into the cinema under any circumstances. That was the rule at the time, and cinemas would have been in breach of their license agreements if they hadn't kept a watchful eye on who was allowed to see certain films. The BBFC website says MRS. DOUBTFIRE was passed with a PG after cuts in 1994, because of some especially rude jokes, though I coulda sworn it was shown with a 12, leading some parents to complain that their kids had been turned away from what they thought was a family film (that's debatable, but what should have been a 'family' film was rendered rude in places because of the commercial necessity of the PG-13 rating).

But it was SPIDER-MAN that really set the cat amongst the pigeons. The BBFC was absolutely right to give the film a 12 - it was simply too violent for a PG, and many people would have complained if it had gone out with that rating. Indeed, it would have constituted an abdication of responsibility by the BBFC. But because it was a superhero movie, many parents felt it was a 'kids' film, possibly because they were unaware of the true extent of the violent content. Stung by the criticism - which had been picked up by the media - the BBFC moved to calm the situation by introducing the 12A certificate, which placed the responsibilty where it belongs - with parents. This has led to a subsequent rise in consumer advice, which can only be a good thing, so that people know in advance what they're going to see, and whether or not they're prepared to tolerate their kids being exposed to such material.
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