Thanks. That sounds like fascinating stuff. I'd do it for home viewing, though, rather than going back into the cinema, unless you did the former

In other news C4 have announced information on upcoming film premieres during Christmas. here's what you can expect:
Wuthering Heights (2011)
The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo (2009)
The Girl Who Played With Fire (2009)
The Girl Who Kicked The Hornet's Nest (2009)
City of Ember (2008)
Furry Vengeance (2010)
Space Chimps (2008)

(Unless otherwise indicated, all films in the following list were projected at 2.35:1 prior to 1971, and at 2.39:1 thereafter)

* = May not be screened in all areas (check your local listings).


I exspect the BBC's screening of HALLOWEEN III: SEASON OF THE WITCH this coming Friday will be the usual cropped and censored print they've been screening for the last 200 years. Avoid like the veritable plague!!

Scope and 3-D movies across the Freeview platform for the coming week (27 October - 2 November):


Saturday (27 October)

• AN AMERICAN HAUNTING (5*)
• THE A-TEAM (C4) [Panavision]
• AUSTRALIA (Film 4)
• DANTE'S PEAK (ITV 1)*
• DOCTOR DOLITTLE (Film 4) [Todd-AO] [2.21:1]
• HALLOWEEN H20: 20 YEARS LATER (BBC 3)
• JOE KIDD (C5) [Panavision]
• KILL BILL VOL. 2 (BBC 2)
• LAST OF THE DOGMEN (C5) [Panavision]
• MIRRORS (Film 4)
• RIDE THE HIGH COUNTRY (More 4) [Panavision]
• STAR WARS EPISODE IV: A NEW HOPE [Star Wars] (ITV 1) [Panavision]
• SWAT (5*)


Sunday (28 October)

• CASINO (ITV 4)
• CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN 2 (Film 4) [Panavision]
• DOWN TERRACE (BBC 2)
• THE ENFORCER (ITV 4) [Panavision]
• ERAGON (Film 4)
• FOOL'S GOLD (C4)
• IRON MAN (Film 4)
• MacKENNA'S GOLD (BBC 2) [Super Panavision 70] [2.21:1]
• MARLEY & ME (E4)
• MONSTER HOUSE (C5) [CGI and 3-D]
• NANNY McPHEE (ITV 2)
• THE NEGOTIATOR (Film 4)
• NEXT (C5)
• THE RARE BREED (ITV 4) [Panavision]
• THE SIMPSONS MOVIE (Film 4) [CGI]
• STARGATE (C5) [Panavision]


Monday (29 October)

• ÆON FLUX (Film 4)
• CHE [Part One] (Film 4) [Panavision (HD)]
• DEATH RACE (C5)
• THE DEVIL WEARS PRADA (Film 4)
• SEA WIFE (Film 4) [CinemaScope]
• THE SKELETON KEY (ITV 1) [Panavision]*
• TWILIGHT (Film 4)


Tuesday (30 October)

• BAD COMPANY (BBC 1)
• BROKEN LANCE (More 4) [CinemaScope] [2.55:1]
• THE CONQUEROR (Film 4) [CinemaScope] [2.55:1]
• DISTRICT 13: ULTIMATUM [Banlieue 13: Ultimatum] (Film 4)
• ERAGON (Film 4)
• EVAN ALMIGHTY (ITV 2)
• FANTASTIC FOUR (Film 4)
• FRACTURE (Film 4)
• SWORDFISH (5 USA) [Panavision]
• A TOWN CALLED PANIC [Panique au Village] (Film 4)


Wednesday (Halloween)

• CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN 2 (Film 4) [Panavision]
• DOCTOR DOLITTLE (Film 4) [Todd-AO] [2.21:1]
• THE IRON GIANT (Film 4) [Celco Scope (CGI)]
• KELLY'S HEROES (ITV 4) [Panavision]
• LET THE RIGHT ONE IN [Låt den Rätte Komma In] (Film 4)
• THE PRINCE AND THE PAUPER (ITV 1) [Panavision]*


Thursday (1 November)

• AUSTRALIA (Film 4)
• THE ELECTRIC HORSEMAN (Film 4) [Panavision]
• HARD EIGHT (Film 4)
• THE LAST OF THE MOHICANS (C5) [Panavision]
• MASH (Film 4) [Panavision]
• PUNCH-DRUNK LOVE (Film 4) [Panavision]
• THINGS WE LOST IN THE FIRE (BBC 2)
• WHERE EAGLES DARE (ITV 4) [Panavision]


Friday (2 November)

• BULLWHIP (Film 4) [CinemaScope]
• HALLOWEEN III: SEASON OF THE WITCH (BBC 2) [Panavision]
• IRON MAN (Film 4)
• THE LONGEST YARD (5 USA) [Panavision]
• MARLEY & ME (E4)
• PUBLIC ENEMIES (ITV 1)

Does anyone know if Skyfall IMAX will have a ratio other than 2.35:1, please? And where I can find out such information? IMDB doesn't list any other ratio, but they're not always right.

Kill Bill Vol.2 in OAR now. Shame Vol.1 wasn't last week.

It's like the two Tomb Raider films. Last time I saw them on BBC1, the first was in OAR, but the second was 16:9.

Apparently it's 1.9:1 on IMAX, so there won't be the dramatic AR change that TDKR had in a 15/70 theatre. The whole thing is a 1.9 instead.

I saw the trailer in a digital IMAX though and it still looked very impressive!

Excellent link, ta. Interesting comment from one person about calling it a "cheaply-filmed movie" as it wasn't shot in IMAX.

Sounds, re: the framing, that I'll miss nothing by seeing it in 2.35:1, and seeing as local Odeon, at the Trafford Centre, expands from 1.85 to 2.35, then that'll be better that way. This is unlike the Manchester Odeon where the conventional screens are large 1.85:1 and, watching a 2.35:1 film, just looks like it has dodgy black bars like a pop video.

Yes, I don't think there's much difference composition wise--more headroom and legroom in the more open version of course. But there is a difference size and sharpness wise! The trailer looked great in a digital IMAX, and if you are in striking distance of the Odeon Printworks it will be vaster and better! I'd seriously consider it...

A 1.85 screen is a terrible swizz in a normal cinema though.

DOWN TERRACE (BBC 2) and NEXT (C5) screened OAR last night.

(Unless otherwise indicated, all films in the following list were projected at 2.35:1 prior to 1971, and at 2.39:1 thereafter)


Scope and 3-D films released on UK Blu-ray (29 October - 4 November):

• The Flying Swords of Dragon Gate [龍門飛甲] (2011) [3-D]
• The Hunter (2011)
• King of Devil's Island [Kongen av Bastøy] (2010)
• The Lost Boys (1987) [Panavision]
• Lost Boys: The Thirst (2010)
• Lost Boys: The Tribe (2008)
• Red Tails (2012)
• A Royal Affair [En Kongelig Affære] (2012)


Scope and 3-D films released on US Blu-ray (30 October - 5 November):

• The Amazing Spider-Man (2012) [3-D]
• Americano (2011) [Hawk Scope (S16)]
• The Brain [Le Cerveau] (1969) [Franscope]
• Greed in the Sun [Cent Mille Dollars au Soleil] (1963) [Franscope]
• Safety Not Guaranteed (2012)
• A Taxi for Tobruk [Un Taxi pour Tobruk] (1960) [Dyaliscope]

Last of the Mohicans currently OAR on Channel 5.

(Unless otherwise indicated, all films in the following list were projected at 2.35:1 prior to 1971, and at 2.39:1 thereafter)

* = May not be screened in all areas (check your local listings).

Scope and 3-D movies across the Freeview platform for the coming week (3 - 9 November):


Saturday (3 November)

• Bitter Victory [Amére Victoire] (BBC 2) [CinemaScope]
• Black Rain (C4)
• The Descent (Film 4)
• The Devil Wears Prada (Film 4)
• Green Zone (C4)
• Gunfight in Abilene (5 USA) [Techniscope]
• The High and the Mighty (BBC 2) [CinemaScope] [2.55:1]
• Last of the Dogmen (C5) [Panavision]
• Nanny McPhee (ITV 2)
• Octane (BBC 2)
• The Prince and the Pauper (More 4) [Panavision]
• The Rare Breed (ITV 4) [Panavision]
• Raw Deal (ITV 4) [J-D-C Scope]
• Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back (ITV 1) [Panavision]
• Swordfish (5 USA) [Panavision]
• Underworld: Evolution (E4)
• What Happens in Vegas... (C4)
• Where Eagles Dare (ITV 4) [Panavision]
• Zulu Dawn (C5) [Panavision]


Sunday (4 November)

• American Beauty (BBC 2)
• Apocalypse Now (ITV 4) [Technovision]
• Close Encounters of the Third Kind (C5) [Panavision]
• Evan Almighty (ITV 2)
• Fantastic Four (Film 4)
• Flags of Our Fathers (Film 4) [Panavision]
• Flower Drum Song (BBC 2) [Panavision]
• Hancock (C5)
• The Iron Giant (Film 4) [Celco Scope]
• Kelly's Heroes (ITV 4) [Panavision]
• Never Been Kissed (C4)
• New Moon (Film 4)
• Stargate (C5) [Panavision]
• Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country (Film 4)
• X-Men (C4) [Panavision]


Monday (5 November)

• The American President (ITV 1) [Panavision]*
• Apocalypse Now (ITV 4) [Technovision]
• Guns at Batasi (Film 4) [CinemaScope]
• Letters from Iwo Jima [硫黄島からの手紙] (Film 4) [Panavision]
• Revolver (C5)
• Tiny Furniture (Film 4)
• The Wedding Planner (Film 4) [Panavision]


Tuesday (6 November)

• Bullwhip (Film 4) [CinemaScope]
• The Electric Horseman (Film 4) [Panavision]
• Mercury Rising (ITV 4) [Panavision]
• A Time to Kill (Film 4) [Panavision]


Wednesday (7 November)

• The Cowboys (Film 4) [Panavision]
• Daredevil (Film 4)
• Kingpin
• McLintock! (Film 4) [Panavision]
• Raw Deal (ITV 4) [J-D-C Scope]
• The River Wild (ITV 2) [Panavision]
• Silent Light [Stellet Licht] (Film 4) [Lomoscope]
• Tora! Tora! Tora! (Film 4) [Panavision]


Thursday (8 November)

• New Moon (Film 4)
• Sudden Death (ITV 4) [Panavision]


Friday (9 November)

• Attack the Block (Film 4)
• The Kingdom (ITV 4)
• Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (ITV 2)
• Merrill's Marauders (Film 4) [Anamorphic]
• The Prince and the Pauper (More 4) [Panavision]
• Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country (Film 4)
• Underworld: Evolution (E4)
• Wind Chill (5*)

It's 'only' taken 35 years, but THE PRINCE AND THE PAUPER gots its terrestrial OAR premiere on More 4 this afternoon.

Stargate in 2.35:1 on Channel 5 this afternoon.

(Unless otherwise indicated, all films in the following list were projected at 2.35:1 prior to 1971, and at 2.39:1 thereafter)

Note that there's no mention of DEMON HUNTER: THE RESURRECTION being released in the UK in its original 3-D format, thereby denying us an opportunity to see the film as originally intended.

Also, a set of 25 'old school' martial arts films are being released in a US box-set this week, though few details (other than a list of titles) have been forthcoming. Fans are pretty sure that these will be nothing more than cropped-n-dubbed upconverts of existing DVD masters, which amounts to a criminal waste of everyone's bleedin' time and money. Two titles in the list have eluded me:

I've listed IRON FISTS as the 1979 production directed by Karl Maka, as that's the more likely film being released in this box-set, though it could also be THE FISTS OF VENGEANCE (also known as IRON FISTS), a 1973 production directed by Chan Hung-man. The latter seems remote, since the vast majority of other films on the list date from the mid-70's to the early-80's.

Something called Enter the Iron Fist is also listed as one of the films in this 'Wu Tang' box-set, but I could find no evidence that such a movie exists, no matter how much I googled it. It could be a new title for an existing film, such as IRON FIST ADVENTURES (The Adventure, 1972), IRON FIST BOXER (Peculiar Boxing Tricks and the Master, 1978), IRON FISTED EAGLE'S CLAW (1979), THE IRON FISTED MONK (1977) or IRON FISTED WARRIOR (Cantonen Iron Kung Fu, 1979), but you'd think the distribs would use a title already known to the target audience, whether employed theatrically or on home video.


Scope and 3-D films released on UK Blu-ray (5 - 11 November):

• Conan the Destroyer (1984) [J-D-C Scope]
• Death Watch [La Mort en Direct] (1979) [Panavision]
• Demon Hunter: The Resurrection [Painted Skin: The Resurrection] [畫皮II] (2012) [3-D]
• Fear (1996) [Panavision]
• Ghost Busters (1984) [Panavision]
• Katy Perry: Part of Me (2012) [3-D] [1.85:1]
• Men in Black 3 (2012) [3-D] [1.85:1]
• Seeking a Friend For the End of the World (2012)
• A Very Harold & Kumar 3D Christmas (2011) [3-D]
• Wimbledon (2004)


Scope and 3-D films released on US Blu-ray (6 - 12 November):

• 18 Fatal Strikes [十八羅漢拳] (1978) [Anamorphic]
• 18 Swirling Riders [旋風十八騎] (1977) [Biansing Scope]
• The 72 Desperate Rebels [七十二煞星] (1976) [Anamorphic]
• 360 (2011)
• The Amazing Spider-Man (2012) [3-D]
• American Graffiti (1973) [Techniscope]
• Angie (1994) [Panavision]
• Apollo 13 (1995)
• Arthur Christmas (2011) [3-D] [1.85:1]
• Biutiful (2010) [Panavision (partly)] [2.39:1 - 1.85:1]
• The Bourne Identity (2002)
• Carry On Wise Guy [破戒大師] (1980) [Anamorphic]
• The Client (1994) [Panavision]
• Death Duel of Kung Fu [The Swordsman in Plains] [중원대협] (1978) [Anamorphic]
• Despicable Me (2010) [3-D] [1.85:1]
• Dragon Claws [Nwoi Fighting Technique] [뇌권] (1983) [Anamorphic]
• Eagle's Claw [鷹爪螳螂] (1977) [Anamorphic]
• The Eighteen Jade Arhats [十八玉羅漢] (1978) [Anamorphic]
• The Fast and the Furious (2001)
• Fire With Fire (2012) [Hawk Scope (HD)]
• Freedomland (2005)
• Guys and Dolls (1955) [CinemaScope] [2.55:1]
• Halloween H20: 20 Years Later (1998)
• Halloween: Resurrection (2002)
• The Hell's Wind Staff [The Dragon and the Tiger Kids] [龍虎門] (1979) [Anamorphic]
• Hit-Man in the Hand of Buddha [The Swordsman] [인무가인] (1980) [Anamorphic]
• The Hot, the Cool and the Vicious [南拳北腿沾閰王] (1976) [Anamorphic]
• Incredible Shaolin Thunderkick [Water Retailer of Shandong] [산동물장수] (1982) [Anamorphic]
• Iron Fists [鐵拳] (1979) [Anamorphic]
• Iron Monkey Strikes Back [Duel at Tiger Village] [九紋龍] (1978) [Anamorphic]
• Jaws (1975) [Panavision]
• The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001)
• The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003)
• The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002)
• Mamma Mia! (2008) [Panavision]
• Men in Black 3 (2012) [3-D] [1.85:1]
• Method Man [The Avenging Boxer] [小子命大] (1979) [Techniscope]
• No Country For Old Men (2007)
• Of Cooks and Kung Fu [奇門怪拳] (1979) [Anamorphic]
• One Armed Swordsman Against Nine Killers [獨臂拳王勇戰楚門九子] (1976) [Anamorphic]
• Outpost: Black Sun (2012)
• Patton (1969) [Dimension 150] [2.21:1]
• The Prophecy (1995)
• Raging Masters of Tiger Crane [Sa-hyung-sa-jae] [사형사제] (1982) [Anamorphic]
• Red Dog (2011)
• Renegade Master [Shaolin Iron Finger] [鐵頭鐵指鐵布衫] (1977) [Anamorphic]
• Scarface (1983) [Panavision]
• Shaolin Kung Fu Master [追獵] (1978) [Anamorphic]
• Shaolin Kung Fu Mystagogue [達摩密宗血神飄] (1976) [Anamorphic]
• Shaolin Master and the Kid [The Master and the Kid] [俠骨柔情赤子心] (1978) [Anamorphic]
• Spartacus (1960) [Super Technirama 70] [2.21:1]
• Sun Dragon [豬仔血淚] (1979) [Anamorphic]
• Sweet Home Alabama (2002)
• They Live (1988) [Panavision]
• A Very Harold & Kumar 3D Christmas (2011) [3-D]
• Von Ryan's Express (1965) [CinemaScope / Panavision]

This thread is so quiet, I can virtually hear the tumbleweeds blowing through it on a chilly breeze...

Are you guys still using these lists? Lemme know.


(Unless otherwise indicated, all films in the following list were projected at 2.35:1 prior to 1971, and at 2.39:1 thereafter)

* = May not be screened in all areas (check your local listings).

Scope and 3-D movies across the Freeview platform for the coming week (10 - 16 November):


Saturday (10 November)

• The Bridge at Remagen (C5) [Panavision]
• The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift (ITV 1)
• Gridiron Gang (5 USA)
• Kill List (Film 4)
• Knight and Day (C4)
• Night at the Museum 2 [Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian] (Film 4)
• The Night of the Generals (BBC 2) [Panavision]
• Perfect Sense (BBC 2)
• The Polar Express (ITV 2) [CGI and IMAX DMR 3-D]
• Star Trek: Generations (Film 4) [Panavision]
• Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi (ITV 1) [J-D-C Scope]
• Sudden Death (ITV 4) [Panavision]
• The Wedding Planner (Film 4) [Panavision]


Sunday (11 November)

• The Bank Job (Film 4)
• The Bird With the Crystal Plumage [L'Uccello dalle Piume di Cristallo] (BBC 4) [Cromoscope]
• The Crying Game (Film 4) [Panavision]
• DragonHeart (ITV 2) [Panavision]
• Guns at Batasi (Film 4) [CinemaScope]
• The Kingdom (ITV 4)
• Lost in Space (C5) [Panavision]
• Mercury Rising (ITV 4) [Panavision]
• My Super Ex-Girlfriend (E4)
• Soul Men (BBC 2)
• Tora! Tora! Tora! (Film 4) [Panavision]


Monday (12 November)

• Alfie (Film 4) [Techniscope]
• Escape From New York (ITV 4) [Panavision]
• High Plains Drifter (C5) [Panavision]
• Huge (Film 4)
• Journey to the Center of the Earth (More 4) [CinemaScope]
• McLintock! (Film 4) [Panavision]
• Out for Justice (C5)
• The Pursuit of Happyness (5*)
• Training Day (ITV 1) [Hawk Scope]


Tuesday (13 November)

• The Cowboys (Film 4) [Panavision]
• Cradle 2 the Grave (5 USA)
• Layer Cake (Film 4) [Panavision]
• Tyrannosaur (Film 4)
• Veronica Guerin (BBC 1)


Wednesday (14 November)

• Do Not Disturb (C4) [CinemaScope]
• Night at the Museum 2 [Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian] (Film 4)
• Once Upon a Time in the Midlands (Film 4)
• The Scouting Book for Boys (Film 4) [Techniscope]


Thursday (15 November)

• End of Days (E4)
• Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (ITV 2)
• Merrill's Marauders (Film 4) [Anamorphic]


Friday (16 November)

• The Badlanders (Film 4) [CinemaScope]
• The Bank Job (Film 4)
• Enter the Dragon (ITV 1) [Panavision]*
• Escape From New York (ITV 4) [Panavision]
• The Fifth Element [Le Cinquième Élément] (5*)
• The Lovely Bones (More 4)
• Love Me or Leave Me (Film 4) [CinemaScope]
• My Super Ex-Girlfriend (E4)
• Star Trek: Generations (Film 4) [Panavision]
• Wanted (ITV 1)

Don't worry, keep it up

I'll be watching The Bridge at Remagen tomorrow, hopefully (as this is C5) it will be widescreen and not pixilated The Night of the Generals is an interesting choice, been a while since that was on AFAIK.

I still read it too!

I'm still reading this thread - been busy recently so haven't had a chance to post very much. Keep up the good work.


That should be a grave accent, not an acute.

I still read, just the film selections been a bit crap at the moment (and I get poor Film4 signal ) so I don't have anything to say... I'm planning on watching Valkyrie at the weekend though..

Many thanks for the responses. I just wanted to be sure this stuff is still useful. Tell your friends!


Ooh, ta for that. If the devil's in the details, then it pays to get 'em right, as I always say.

You can knock the Bridge at Remagan off your list

Indeed. 4:3. How piss poor

And now, Perfect Sense is open-matte 16:9 from the theatrical 2.35:1 ratio. And a BBC Film premiere too! Shameful.

Might have known C5 would do the dirty on THE BRIDGE AT REMAGEN, but PERFECT SENSE was a BBC production - and the opening BBC Films logo was OAR (it switched to cropped/open matte directly afterward)! Then it was followed on BBC 2 by the terrestrial OAR premiere of THE NIGHT OF THE GENERALS...

I missed the latter, but I did notice how the BBC Films logo was OAR for Perfect Sense. I could complain to the BBC, but I know the stack response I'll get and it takes about 3 years to submit each complaint thanks to the way they've redesigned it.