Not doubting you, I'm just amazed it hasn't been shown properly in all this time. Is it ITV who's only aired it previously?

I know it has been on ITV previously, but as Channel 4 have the deal with Fox, I'd be surprised if it hasn't been on Channel 4 before.

Im sure thats the 1st time its been on Channel 4.Its been flogged to death on ITV over the years but im sure it got its premiere on BBC1 in 1997/98 ish !!

Rounders, is OAR on BBC1 now. Is this an OAR premiere?

Nah, that one's definitely been shown OAR before.

TCM have shown True Lies in the past and even they've not shown it in its OAR. So well done C4 for doing so.

(Unless otherwise indicated, all films in the following list were projected at 2.35:1 prior to 1971, and at 2.39:1 thereafter)

* = May not be screened in all areas (check your local listings).

Scope and 3-D movies across the Freeview platform for the coming week (23 February - 1 March):


Saturday (23 February)

• America's Sweethearts (Film 4) [Panavision]
• Battle of Britain (5 USA) [Panavision]
• The Black Shield of Falworth (BBC 2) [CinemaScope] [2.55:1]
• Cheaper By the Dozen 2 (Film 4) [Panavision]
• The Gauntlet (ITV 1) [Panavision]*
• A League of Their Own (Really) [Panavision]
• Man of the House (Movie Mix) [Panavision]
• Matilda (Movie Mix)
• The Men Who Stare at Goats (BBC 2)
• National Treasure: Book of Secrets (BBC 3)
• Raid on Rommel (5 USA) [Techniscope]
• The Runaways (Film 4)
• Rush Hour 2 (5*) [Panavision]
• Speed 2: Cruise Control (Film 4) [Panavision]
• Terminator: Salvation (C4)
• The X Files: I Want to Believe (More 4)


Sunday (24 February)

• Blood and Chocolate (Film 4)
• Earth Girls are Easy (Movie Mix) [Panavision]
• High Crimes (Film 4) [Panavision]
• Inkheart (Film 4)
• Man of the House (Movie Mix) [Panavision]
• My Super Ex-Girlfriend (Film 4)
• Ocean's Eleven (ITV 2)
• Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time (BBC 3)
• Runaway Jury (C4)
• Saw 3D (C5) [3-D] [1.85:1]
• To Hell and Back (C5) [CinemaScope] [2.55:1]
• Unstoppable (C4)
• The Wedding Planner (C4) [Panavision]


Monday (25 February)

• Blind Date (Movie Mix) [Panavision]
• Cliffhanger (ITV 4) [Panavision]
• Deep Blue Sea (5*)
• Gunman's Walk (Film 4) [CinemaScope]
• Kidnapped (Film 4) [Panavision]
• The Violent Men (Film 4) [CinemaScope] [2.55:1]
• X-Men: The Last Stand (Film 4)


Tuesday (26 February)

• Akeelah and the Bee (Film 4) [Panavision]
• Blind Date (Movie Mix) [Panavision]
• D.A.R.Y.L. (Movie Mix) [Panavision]
• Judge Dredd (5 USA) [Panavision]
• Oldboy [올드보이] (Film 4)
• Police Story III - Super Cop [警察故事III超級警察] (Movie Mix) [Technovision]
• Raw Deal (ITV 4) [J-D-C Scope]
• The Sentinel (Film 4)
• The Seven Year Itch (Film 4) [CinemaScope] [2.55:1]
• That Touch of Mink (Film 4) [Panavision]


Wednesday (27 February)

• Anastasia (Film 4) [CinemaScope]
• Blind Date (Movie Mix) [Panavision]
• Eclipse (Film 4)
• King Kong (ITV 1) [Panavision]*
• Major Dundee (Film 4) [Panavision]
• The Mothman Prophecies (BBC 1)
• The Notebook (C4) [J-D-C Scope]
• Rush Hour 2 (5*) [Panavision]
• Stardust (E4) [Panavision]
• Thirst [박쥐] (Film 4)
• Taxidermia (Film 4)
• Thunder Over Arizona (Film 4) [Naturama]
• Vampires (Movie Mix) [Panavision]


Thursday (28 February)

• Lethal Weapon 2 (ITV 4) [Panavision]
• My Super Ex-Girlfriend (Film 4)
• Raw Deal (ITV 4) [J-D-C Scope]
• The Sea Inside [Mar Adentro] (Film 4)
• Underworld: Evolution (Film 4)


Friday (1 March)

• America's Sweethearts (Film 4) [Panavision]
• Armageddon (BBC 1) [Panavision]
• Game of Death (ITV 4)
• Gladiator (ITV 1)*
• Hellfighters (Film 4) [Panavision]
• The Hot Rock (Film 4) [Panavision]
• Keeping Mum (More 4) [Panavision]
• Maximum Risk (5 USA)
• Terminator 2: Judgment Day (ITV 2)
• They Shoot Horses, Don't They? (BBC 2) [Panavision]
• Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Film 4) [Panavision / IMAX] [2.39:1 and 1.44:1]
• The Violent Men (Film 4) [CinemaScope] [2.55:1]

Compared to Speed 2 on Film 4 at the moment, my recording of the above shows that it's very slightly wider, although it doesn't feel like 2.55:1. I know Lady & The Tramp was, on Xmas Eve, and that looked very narrow.

Just flicked past Film 4 and saw that America's Sweethearts is cropped to 16:9. I'm sure C4 have shown this OAR before?

It's pot luck which version of AS is shown on the C4 platform at any given time. It's one of the great mysteries of the universe.

And I think I'm right in saying Black Shield was an OAR premiere (59 years after it first played in cinemas!!!). And I think you're right in saying this wasn't the full 2.55:1 enchilada.

Ta for the AS info. Didn't realise that.

As for Black Shield, if that was 2.35:1, then Speed 2 was about 2.30:1 as it was only a slight difference but I was really expecting to look for a difference between 2.35:1 and 2.55:1 originally.

The Gauntlet is currently OAR on ITV. This is surely an OAR premiere? They can never be arsed to get old Clint Eastwood films in the correct ratio, usually.

The Gauntlet has been shown a few times the past year or so on ITV & ITV 4 in OAR now.Why this Clint Eastwood film as its not one of his greatest..who knows !!??

It has indeed been shown OAR a number of times by ITV in the past year. Seems 'pot luck' not only refers to AMERICA'S SWEETHEARTS, but just about anything on the commercial channels...

And UNSTOPPABLE gets the OAR treatment on C4, as expected...

I know it's been mentioned before (as that caused me to set the Digiguide reminder) but The Violent Men is on Film4 at the moment in the OAR of 2.55:1.

(Unless otherwise indicated, all films in the following list were projected at 2.35:1 prior to 1971, and at 2.39:1 thereafter)

Scope and 3-D movies across the Freeview platform for the coming week (2 - 8 March):


Saturday (2 March)

• Battle of Britain (5 USA) [Panavision]
• Body of Lies (ITV 1)
• Chisum (C5) [Panavision]
• Cliffhanger (ITV 4) [Panavision]
• The DaVinci Code (5*)
• DragonHeart (ITV 1) [Panavision]
• The First Grader (BBC 2) [Techniscope]
• Forrest Gump (Film 4) [Panavision]
• Game of Death (ITV 4)
• Judge Dredd (5 USA) [Panavision]
• Jumper (C4)
• Keeping Mum (More 4) [Panavision]
• Kidnapped (Film 4) [Panavision]
• Mad Money (Film 4)
• Ocean's Eleven (ITV 2)
• The Portrait of a Lady (ITV 3)
• The Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time (BBC 3)
• Shaun of the Dead (ITV 2)
• Sink the Bismarck! (More 4) [CinemaScope]
• Transporter 3 [Le Transporteur 3] (C4)
• Vera Cruz (C5) [Superscope] [2.00:1]


Sunday (3 March)

• Akeelah and the Bee (Film 4) [Panavision]
• Cinderella Man (BBC 4)
• The DaVinci Code (5*)
• Dead Calm (ITV 3) [Panavision]
• The Last Mimzy (Film 4)
• Lethal Weapon 2 (ITV 4) [Panavision]
• Ocean's Thirteen (ITV 2)
• The Sorceror's Apprentice (BBC 3)
• Stardust (E4) [Panavision]
• The Tourist (C4) [Panavision]
• X-Men: The Last Stand (Film 4)


Monday (4 March)

• Godzilla (5*)
• Hitman (Film 4)
• Major Dundee (Film 4) [Panavision]
• The Seven Year Itch (Film 4) [CinemaScope] [2.55:1]
• Terminator 2: Judgment Day (ITV 2)
• Thunder Over Arizona (Film 4) [Naturama]


Tuesday (5 March)

• 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days [4 Luni, 3 Saptamini si 2 Zile] (Film 4)
• Anastasia (Film 4) [CinemaScope]
• The Cook, the Thief His Wife & Her Lover (Film 4) [Technovision]
• Enter the Dragon (ITV 4) [Panavision]
• The Hot Rock (Film 4) [Panavision]
• The Last Frontier (Film 4) [CinemaScope]
• Resident Evil: Extinction (5 USA)


Wednesday (6 March)

• After the Sunset (C4)
• The Enemy Below (More 4) [CinemaScope]
• Hellfighters (Film 4) [Panavision]
• The Line (La Linea) (Film 4)
• The Tailor of Panama (Movie Mix) [Panavision]
• This Boy's Life (Film 4) [Panavision]
• Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Film 4) [Panavision / IMAX] [2.39:1 and 1.44:1]
• Unleashed [Danny the Dog] (ITV 4)


Thursday (7 March)

• Gun Fury (Film 4) [Columbia 3-D] [1.85:1]
• In Bruges (Film 4)
• Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome (ITV 4) [Panavision]
• Mad Money (Film 4)


Friday (8 March)

• Broken Lance (Film 4) [CinemaScope] [2.55:1]
• End of Days (Film 4)
• Forrest Gump (Film 4) [Panavision]
• Kull the Conqueror (ITV 4)
• Red Dragon (ITV 2) [Panavision]
• Serenity (ITV 4)
• Shaun of the Dead (ITV 2)
• Sink the Bismarck! (More 4) [CinemaScope]
• The Tailor of Panama (Movie Mix) [Panavision]
• The Untouchables (More 4) [Panavision]

I may be wrong ("What, again?!", I hear you all cry), but I think that was the OAR premiere of THEY SHOOT HORSES, DON'T THEY? last night.

Oh, and the BBC screened THE SHAGGY DOG at something like the full 2.39:1 ratio today. It wasn't on the list this week (no excuses - I just forgot), so I thought I'd mention it for the record.

As know one else has put it Body Of Lies was in OAR last night on ITV.Another surprise from ITV there

TO WALK WITH LIONS was cropped to 4:3 on Movie Mix yesterday.

(Unless otherwise indicated, all films in the following list were projected at 2.35:1 prior to 1971, and at 2.39:1 thereafter)

* = May not be screened in all areas (check your local listings).

Scope and 3-D movies across the Freeview platform for the coming week (9 - 15 March):


Saturday (9 March)

• Dead Calm (ITV 3) [Panavision]
• Enter the Dragon (ITV 4) [Panavision]
• Godzilla (5*)
• Hitman (Film 4)
• The Hole (C4)
• Kull the Conqueror (ITV 4)
• The Last Frontier (Film 4) [CinemaScope]
• The Last Mimzy (Film 4)
• Little Buddha (Movie Mix) [Technovision / Arri 765]
• Love Actually (ITV 2)
• Made in Dagenham (BBC 2)
• The Man From Laramie (BBC 2) [CinemaScope] [2.55:1]
• Ocean's Thirteen (ITV 2)
• Out of Time (5 USA)
• Skyline (C4)
• The Sorcerer's Apprentice (BBC 3)
• Swiss Family Robinson (Film 4) [Panavision]
• Wild Things (Movie Mix) [Panavision]


Sunday (10 March)

• Air America (ITV 3)
• The Aviator (BBC 4)
• Catch a Fire (BBC 2)
• Down With Love (Film 4) [Panavision]
• Drive Angry (C5) [3-D] [1.85:1]
• Entrapment (Film 4) [Panavision]
• Lara Croft: Tomb Raider (BBC 3)
• Lucky Number Slevin (Film 4)
• Serenity (ITV 4)
• The Singer Not the Song (ITV 4) [CinemaScope]


Monday (11 March)

• 27 Dresses (Film 4) [Panavision]
• Blood Alley (Film 4) [CinemaScope] [2.55:1]
• The Bravados (Film 4) [CinemaScope]
• The Client (Film 4) [Panavision]
• D.A.R.Y.L. (Movie Mix) [Panavision]
• The Fifth Element [Le Cinquième Élément] (5*)
• Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome (ITV 4) [Panavision]
• Man of the House (Movie Mix) [Panavision]
• Passenger 57 (C5) [J-D-C Scope]
• Red Dragon (ITV 2) [Panavision]
• Wild Things (Movie Mix) [Panavision]


Tuesday (12 March)

• The Enemy Below (More 4) [CinemaScope]
• Gun Fury (Film 4) [Columbia 3-D] [1.85:1]
• In God's Hands (Movie Mix)
• Micmacs [Mic Macs a Tire-Larigot] (Film 4)
• Out of Time (5 USA)
• The Transporter [Le Transporteur] (5 USA)
• Unleashed [Danny the Dog] (ITV 4)


Wednesday (13 March)

• 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer (Film 4)
• The 51st State (Film 4)
• The Beach (Film 4)
• D.A.R.Y.L. (Movie Mix) [Panavision]
• Transformers (E4) [Panavision]


Thursday (14 March)

• Blood Alley (Film 4) [CinemaScope] [2.55:1]
• Broken Lance (Film 4) [CinemaScope] [2.55:1]
• The Cook the Thief His Wife & Her Lover (Film 4) [Technovision]
• The Devil Wears Prada (Film 4)
• Robin Hood (Film 4)
• There Will Be Blood (BBC 2) [Panavision]
• Where Eagles Dare (ITV 4) [Panavision]


Friday (15 March)

• The Bank Job (C4)
• Down With Love (Film 4) [Panavision]
• Fight Club (C4)
• Love Actually (ITV 2)
• Mad Max 2 (ITV 1) [Panavision]*
• Man of the House (Movie Mix) [Panavision]
• The Poseidon Adventure (More 4) [Panavision]
• The Runaways (Film 4)
• Swiss Family Robinson (Film 4) [Panavision]
• Three Kings (ITV 2)
• Training Day (ITV 4) [Hawk Scope]
• X-Men Origins: Wolverine (Film 4)

Made in Dagenham in 16:9. I made my feelings clear to those concerned.

https://twitter.com/DomRobinson/stat...96944986398723

All the previews were configured that way, so it didn't come as too much of a surprise to me. A disappointment, to be sure, but not a surprise.

TWWL is a bit of an odd bird. I've only ever seen a 'full screen' 4:3 version of that film on TV, but it doesn't zoom-up correctly on a 16:9 set, and it doesn't look cropped at either side. FRIDAY THE 13th (1980) is another film where this is the case. I'm assuming the part of the image intended for theatrical projection isn't 'fixed' in the regular way (ie. striped across the centre, or framed at the top of the image), but buried somewhere within the 1.37:1 canvas in a way that cannot be properly replicated without it being configured for 16:9.

I can virtually see thousands of eyes glazing over as a result of these ramblings, so I'll shut up now...

I was hoping it'd still be 2.35:1 as even when they do show a film that way, the trailers are often in 16:9.

Normally, C4 would show such films correctly in their trailers, but their trailers for Skyline and Limitless were both around 1.9:1.

Also, I've just complained to the BBC (for all the good it'll do) because BBC3's print of Lara Croft Tomb Raider is cropped to 16:9 when it's been shown on BBC1 before in 2.35:1, which I remember seeing just before New Year in 2010. The following night, they showed the sequel, but it was in 16:9. I hadn't seen them before that, so I sourced an alternate version for the sequel.