Please don't think this is a troll attempt because it's not. I seriously do not know what a phone that is called blackberry means. I think it's some sort of keyboard phone but not sure?
What is a phone that is a blackberry?
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A Blackberry is a device that would have been what all smartphones looked like if Apple didn't choose to change the mould and make a smartphone that really pushed touch to the max.
They still make phones with keyboards (
) but they'll be phased out eventually.
Picture a phone. It's made and designed with actual buttons. Over time those buttons can't be changed or rearranged.
All apps (important work apps, business apps, and even game apps) released for that phone must work with the buttons already there - buttons that were there even before the app was even thought of or designed. Having to shoe horn brand new apps into set buttons results in a hideously fiddily Ui. When we remove all these buttons for a simple screen - every single app can make it's own buttons - designed for that app from the ground up.
Blackberry are slowly changing though so you have to congratulate them for embracing the superior tech.
They still make phones with keyboards (
) but they'll be phased out eventually.Picture a phone. It's made and designed with actual buttons. Over time those buttons can't be changed or rearranged.
All apps (important work apps, business apps, and even game apps) released for that phone must work with the buttons already there - buttons that were there even before the app was even thought of or designed. Having to shoe horn brand new apps into set buttons results in a hideously fiddily Ui. When we remove all these buttons for a simple screen - every single app can make it's own buttons - designed for that app from the ground up.
Blackberry are slowly changing though so you have to congratulate them for embracing the superior tech.
"This message is hidden because Soundburst is on your ignore list."
but let me guess, i bet it goes something like
Blackberry is rubbish, you need to get the iPhone, it's revolutionary, industry leading and the only true smartphone. It brings things to market that no other handset has ever done (sic)
but let me guess, i bet it goes something like
Blackberry is rubbish, you need to get the iPhone, it's revolutionary, industry leading and the only true smartphone. It brings things to market that no other handset has ever done (sic)
Originally Posted by Soundburst:
“A Blackberry is a device that would have been what all smartphones looked like if Apple didn't choose to change the mould and make a smartphone that really pushed touch to the max.
They still make phones with keyboards () but they'll be phased out eventually.
Picture a phone. It's made and designed with actual buttons. Over time those buttons can't be changed or rearranged.
All apps (important work apps, business apps, and even game apps) released for that phone must work with the buttons already there - buttons that were there even before the app was even thought of or designed. Having to shoe horn brand new apps into set buttons results in a hideously fiddily Ui. When we remove all these buttons for a simple screen - every single app can make it's own buttons - designed for that app from the ground up.
Blackberry are slowly changing though so you have to congratulate them for embracing the superior tech.”
“A Blackberry is a device that would have been what all smartphones looked like if Apple didn't choose to change the mould and make a smartphone that really pushed touch to the max.
They still make phones with keyboards (
) but they'll be phased out eventually.Picture a phone. It's made and designed with actual buttons. Over time those buttons can't be changed or rearranged.
All apps (important work apps, business apps, and even game apps) released for that phone must work with the buttons already there - buttons that were there even before the app was even thought of or designed. Having to shoe horn brand new apps into set buttons results in a hideously fiddily Ui. When we remove all these buttons for a simple screen - every single app can make it's own buttons - designed for that app from the ground up.
Blackberry are slowly changing though so you have to congratulate them for embracing the superior tech.”
Here we go again. There is nothing wrong with having a proper keyboard, in fact if your using the phone mainly for work and not dicking about they are preferable. The rest of your post is silly because a direction key or trackball/pad solves your imaginary button issue. You can also use a Blackberry without having to put on a pair of Marigolds.
Just got my first Blackberry (9700). Was tempted by the iphone but the Blackberry did more of what I wanted.
Had it a week and very pleased.
Previously had a Nokia 5800 which is still a good phone but with appalling battery life!!
Had it a week and very pleased.
Previously had a Nokia 5800 which is still a good phone but with appalling battery life!!
Originally Posted by Soundburst:
“A Blackberry is a device that would have been what all smartphones looked like if Apple didn't choose to change the mould and make a smartphone that really pushed touch to the max.
They still make phones with keyboards () but they'll be phased out eventually.
Picture a phone. It's made and designed with actual buttons. Over time those buttons can't be changed or rearranged.
All apps (important work apps, business apps, and even game apps) released for that phone must work with the buttons already there - buttons that were there even before the app was even thought of or designed. Having to shoe horn brand new apps into set buttons results in a hideously fiddily Ui. When we remove all these buttons for a simple screen - every single app can make it's own buttons - designed for that app from the ground up.
Blackberry are slowly changing though so you have to congratulate them for embracing the superior tech.”
“A Blackberry is a device that would have been what all smartphones looked like if Apple didn't choose to change the mould and make a smartphone that really pushed touch to the max.
They still make phones with keyboards (
) but they'll be phased out eventually.Picture a phone. It's made and designed with actual buttons. Over time those buttons can't be changed or rearranged.
All apps (important work apps, business apps, and even game apps) released for that phone must work with the buttons already there - buttons that were there even before the app was even thought of or designed. Having to shoe horn brand new apps into set buttons results in a hideously fiddily Ui. When we remove all these buttons for a simple screen - every single app can make it's own buttons - designed for that app from the ground up.
Blackberry are slowly changing though so you have to congratulate them for embracing the superior tech.”
My phone has a full-face touchscreen and a physical keyboard - in my opinion a much better solution than having to type texts and emails on a touchscreen keyboard. I wouldn't buy a phone without a real keyboard.
Originally Posted by legends wear 7:
“"This message is hidden because Soundburst is on your ignore list."”
“"This message is hidden because Soundburst is on your ignore list."”
You miss the comedy gold if you do that!
Originally Posted by Soundburst:
“A Blackberry is a device that would have been what all smartphones looked like if Apple didn't choose to change the mould and make a smartphone that really pushed touch to the max.
They still make phones with keyboards () but they'll be phased out eventually.
Picture a phone. It's made and designed with actual buttons. Over time those buttons can't be changed or rearranged.
All apps (important work apps, business apps, and even game apps) released for that phone must work with the buttons already there - buttons that were there even before the app was even thought of or designed. Having to shoe horn brand new apps into set buttons results in a hideously fiddily Ui. When we remove all these buttons for a simple screen - every single app can make it's own buttons - designed for that app from the ground up.
Blackberry are slowly changing though so you have to congratulate them for embracing the superior tech.”
“A Blackberry is a device that would have been what all smartphones looked like if Apple didn't choose to change the mould and make a smartphone that really pushed touch to the max.
They still make phones with keyboards (
) but they'll be phased out eventually.Picture a phone. It's made and designed with actual buttons. Over time those buttons can't be changed or rearranged.
All apps (important work apps, business apps, and even game apps) released for that phone must work with the buttons already there - buttons that were there even before the app was even thought of or designed. Having to shoe horn brand new apps into set buttons results in a hideously fiddily Ui. When we remove all these buttons for a simple screen - every single app can make it's own buttons - designed for that app from the ground up.
Blackberry are slowly changing though so you have to congratulate them for embracing the superior tech.”
oh cods wallop!
Blackberry handsets are the device of choice when it comes to business connections and they always will be. At the end of the day each device serves a different market......
You can ball on however much you want about how cumbersome a blackberry is.....at the end of the day it has been around longer and knows the market much better than Apple. More than you realise there is far more teachnology that goes into a blackberry and its associated services than does an iPhone or other touchscreen related device.
Oh and I want to pick point about buttons that can't be changed or re-arranged....the same can be said of any button based phone.
I hate this holier than thou waffle that seems to come from iPhone handset owners, people have different wants and needs. Its a commonly accepted fact a iPhone has little fans in the enterprise arena compared to Blackberry and Nokia devices. That is a media consumption device and something it does very well, the blackberry is a TRUE communications device and does it second to none in terms of email and text based comms.
Every handset whether released by RIM, Nokia or any other handset manufacturer has a target market, and they sell to those very well.
Originally Posted by Aye Up:
“oh cods wallop!
Blackberry handsets are the device of choice when it comes to business connections and they always will be. At the end of the day each device serves a different market......
You can ball on however much you want about how cumbersome a blackberry is.....at the end of the day it has been around longer and knows the market much better than Apple. More than you realise there is far more teachnology that goes into a blackberry and its associated services than does an iPhone or other touchscreen related device.
Oh and I want to pick point about buttons that can't be changed or re-arranged....the same can be said of any button based phone.
I hate this holier than thou waffle that seems to come from iPhone handset owners, people have different wants and needs. Its a commonly accepted fact a iPhone has little fans in the enterprise arena compared to Blackberry and Nokia devices. That is a media consumption device and something it does very well, the blackberry is a TRUE communications device and does it second to none in terms of email and text based comms.
Every handset whether released by RIM, Nokia or any other handset manufacturer has a target market, and they sell to those very well.”
“oh cods wallop!
Blackberry handsets are the device of choice when it comes to business connections and they always will be. At the end of the day each device serves a different market......
You can ball on however much you want about how cumbersome a blackberry is.....at the end of the day it has been around longer and knows the market much better than Apple. More than you realise there is far more teachnology that goes into a blackberry and its associated services than does an iPhone or other touchscreen related device.
Oh and I want to pick point about buttons that can't be changed or re-arranged....the same can be said of any button based phone.
I hate this holier than thou waffle that seems to come from iPhone handset owners, people have different wants and needs. Its a commonly accepted fact a iPhone has little fans in the enterprise arena compared to Blackberry and Nokia devices. That is a media consumption device and something it does very well, the blackberry is a TRUE communications device and does it second to none in terms of email and text based comms.
Every handset whether released by RIM, Nokia or any other handset manufacturer has a target market, and they sell to those very well.”
I have to agree with a lot of this. I have been a long time Blackberry user. I recently became an Iphone 4 user because I was told the emnail service had improved and I went for it as due an upgrade.
I am deeply dispapointed with the Email service. I probably get 1 out of every 4 emails delivered straight away and probably every 4th gets delivered about 4+ hours after it was sent. Very annoying when you are awaiting answers and know they have been sent but you cannot access them. I hope I can improve this.
Originally Posted by sensoria:
“I have to agree with a lot of this. I have been a long time Blackberry user. I recently became an Iphone 4 user because I was told the emnail service had improved and I went for it as due an upgrade.
I am deeply dispapointed with the Email service. I probably get 1 out of every 4 emails delivered straight away and probably every 4th gets delivered about 4+ hours after it was sent. Very annoying when you are awaiting answers and know they have been sent but you cannot access them. I hope I can improve this.”
“I have to agree with a lot of this. I have been a long time Blackberry user. I recently became an Iphone 4 user because I was told the emnail service had improved and I went for it as due an upgrade.
I am deeply dispapointed with the Email service. I probably get 1 out of every 4 emails delivered straight away and probably every 4th gets delivered about 4+ hours after it was sent. Very annoying when you are awaiting answers and know they have been sent but you cannot access them. I hope I can improve this.”
This is exactly the reason I went back to a Blackberry from an iPhone. The iPhone looks fantastic but signal reception and message notifications are awful. I love the way the Blackberry automatically delivers emails, twitter dms, facebook messages etc immediately. On the iphone, I needed to pay for apps that did what the BB does for free. Also, the BB Messenger is superb.
Originally Posted by Matt D:
“You miss the comedy gold if you do that!”
“You miss the comedy gold if you do that!
”
This,
Have been tempted to Ignore his posts, but they do make me laugh. Even shown a few of my mates who are apple fanboys and even they find him cringe worthy!!!!
Thanks soundburst for the laughs!!
Have a friend who uses a blackberry for work and he tells me its a great device and couldn't live without it now.
Originally Posted by horns:
“The iPhone doesn't have push email?
It's not exactly cutting edge, is it?”
“The iPhone doesn't have push email?
It's not exactly cutting edge, is it?”
Who said that?? It does, and has done for 18 months now! - it supports MobileMe and Exchange push, with the added bonus of multiple exchange accounts (something that is not on many handsets out there today).
Originally Posted by horns:
“The iPhone doesn't have push email?
It's not exactly cutting edge, is it?”
“The iPhone doesn't have push email?
It's not exactly cutting edge, is it?”
I don't have one so I can't be sure but I always thought it did.
Originally Posted by Dan30:
“This,
Have been tempted to Ignore his posts, but they do make me laugh. Even shown a few of my mates who are apple fanboys and even they find him cringe worthy!!!!
Thanks soundburst for the laughs!!
Have a friend who uses a blackberry for work and he tells me its a great device and couldn't live without it now.”
“This,
Have been tempted to Ignore his posts, but they do make me laugh. Even shown a few of my mates who are apple fanboys and even they find him cringe worthy!!!!
Thanks soundburst for the laughs!!
Have a friend who uses a blackberry for work and he tells me its a great device and couldn't live without it now.”
Agreed, he/she has me in stitches constantly!!!!
I can only assume that the poster moaning about emails didn't have push email turned on , or didn't have fetch data enabled either.
Either that or they were holding it wrong.
Either that or they were holding it wrong.
Originally Posted by Soundburst:
“I can only assume that the poster moaning about emails didn't have push email turned on , or didn't have fetch data enabled either.
Either that or they were holding it wrong.”
“I can only assume that the poster moaning about emails didn't have push email turned on , or didn't have fetch data enabled either.
Either that or they were holding it wrong.”
I have all those things turned on, the systme is nowhere near as effective as the Blackberry one. I like the phone but the fear of missing emails is frustraiting.
Originally Posted by sensoria:
“I have all those things turned on, the systme is nowhere near as effective as the Blackberry one. I like the phone but the fear of missing emails is frustraiting.”
“I have all those things turned on, the systme is nowhere near as effective as the Blackberry one. I like the phone but the fear of missing emails is frustraiting.”
Could be the mail server itself - remember that with Blackberry, all your mail goes through a Blackberry server before hitting your phone however with the iPhone and similar, the exchange server talks directly with the handset.
While the way Blackberry does push everything (not just e-mail) is a little bit hacky, it does provide the best user experience.
Exchange doesn't even come close.
Exchange doesn't even come close.
I am sitting here now with my Iphone at the computer, all the push stuff is set up and I have 5 unopened emails in my Outlook inbox. Not one has come through to my Iphone yet.
Originally Posted by Soundburst:
“I can only assume that the poster moaning about emails didn't have push email turned on , or didn't have fetch data enabled either.
Either that or they were holding it wrong.”
“I can only assume that the poster moaning about emails didn't have push email turned on , or didn't have fetch data enabled either.
Either that or they were holding it wrong.”
Everything is set up properly on the iphone. In fact, it used to work (kind of) but now only gets mails when the phone is restarted and then stops. Other push messages from apps also don't work except for the Yahoo Messenger which never fails! The upshot is, I now just use the iphone as an ipod and the tom tom app. Along with the dropped calls, and hit & miss messages, it just isn't fit for purpose for me.
Originally Posted by Soundburst:
“A Blackberry is a device that would have been what all smartphones looked like if Apple didn't choose to change the mould and make a smartphone that really pushed touch to the max.
They still make phones with keyboards () but they'll be phased out eventually.
Picture a phone. It's made and designed with actual buttons. Over time those buttons can't be changed or rearranged.
All apps (important work apps, business apps, and even game apps) released for that phone must work with the buttons already there - buttons that were there even before the app was even thought of or designed. Having to shoe horn brand new apps into set buttons results in a hideously fiddily Ui. When we remove all these buttons for a simple screen - every single app can make it's own buttons - designed for that app from the ground up.
Blackberry are slowly changing though so you have to congratulate them for embracing the superior tech.”
“A Blackberry is a device that would have been what all smartphones looked like if Apple didn't choose to change the mould and make a smartphone that really pushed touch to the max.
They still make phones with keyboards (
) but they'll be phased out eventually.Picture a phone. It's made and designed with actual buttons. Over time those buttons can't be changed or rearranged.
All apps (important work apps, business apps, and even game apps) released for that phone must work with the buttons already there - buttons that were there even before the app was even thought of or designed. Having to shoe horn brand new apps into set buttons results in a hideously fiddily Ui. When we remove all these buttons for a simple screen - every single app can make it's own buttons - designed for that app from the ground up.
Blackberry are slowly changing though so you have to congratulate them for embracing the superior tech.”
Wait, did touchscreen smartphones not exist until Apple released the iPhone? I must have imagined all those WinMo handsets I owned for years before the iPhone was even a wet dream in Jobs' pants. There really isn't another explanation as to why RIM would have been caught so off-guard by Apple's introduction of touchscreen displays.
Of course it could be down to the fact that there's a massive business market that likes devices with physical keyboards more than devices with pretty interfaces. Based on the fact that RIM remains the market leader in smartphones, I'm gonna assume they are actually selling popular products.
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