What is with the British Public?? If these boards are anything to go by, the HM's just have no chance at all.

Take Stu and 'Chelle last night. If they did have sex, then Michelle is a slut/slapper/glamour seeker/desperate. If they didn't, then they are both boring.

Exactly what are they supposed to do here? It's hugely amusing to note the number of people who complain that it was a waste of time, boring, pathetic, desperate and not worth watching. These are the same people who are on at 3am watching it. There was only one reason you was up to watch - and that's to see if they had sex or not.

Take the other HM's. It's Day 8, and already we've seen numerous personalities emerging, from Victor's Alpha Male attempts, to Kitten's rebellious attitude. While everyone is of course entitled to their opinions, I just wonder what the 'perfect' housemate actually is?

They're all in because they know they're on national TV.

They all know there's a possibility of a fairly large cash sum if they win.

They all know that there's a possibility of more TV coverage after they leave the house.

They all know they will be ripped to shreds by the pathetic British tabloids who believe it is their duty to expose as much crap about each housemate as possible, rather than concentrate on what's actually happening in the house. (I'm pretty sure that the intimate moment last night will be blown out of all proportion, with people all over the country claiming they slept with Stu/Michelle and other pathetic attempts at causing as much harm as possible.

Compare this to what happens in Euro versions of BB - Germany is great - you can have a free-for-all orgy and the tabloids there don't really pay too much attention!

So please, enlighten me what the HM's SHOULD be doing in order to win your affection, and your viewing time? What isn't happening that should be? Why is the first BB bonk so hyped up - and when it happens, the participating woman is branded a slut? Please, explain this to me because I really can't understand what it is people want.

Well said, good on them if they did do it, people calling michelle a slapper is just wrong how many woman and lads do the one night stand every weekend and no one thinks and worse of them.

i say go michelle and stuart theyre great! shes not a slapper she was jus horny nad attracted to stuart! nothin slapperish bout that. and they did hide under the duvet.

I have nothing against one night stands - but can't stand Michelle. She is just sooo transparent. She presumed having a shag in the house would keep her in there - she weighed up the options of Victor or Stuart and realised Stu was the easiest prey (in terms of manipulation). Then hey presto an eviction looms and she pounces. How sadly predictable.....

I believe she just genuinely fancied stu and did it for that reason alone. sure maybe the thought crosse her mind that it would keep her in there but that wasnt her motive behind it

I would love to know how you know this - are you psychic? Do you know her personally?

You're just guessing. She's highly sexed, and she fancied Stu the moment she saw him. I don't think she was very serious with Victor from what I saw.

You're basing the whole scenario on a dislike for Michelle - and that's exactly what I am talking about. You might be right - she may have done it simply for the possibility of keeping herself in the house, but it is far, far too early to tell.

I will state right now, that any HM who slept with any other HM would get an identical response from yourself.

[quote=Belgarion]

You're just guessing.
You're basing the whole scenario on a dislike for Michelle - /QUOTE]

Of course I'm guessing and yes, its a based on a dislike of Michelle. No arguement here Just for the record though I disliked her from the start and nothing to do with her "highly sexed" state. I call her a slapper as a term of insult not as a judgement on her sexual behaviour.

As for me being psychic Gypsy Petulegro on blackpool front once told me I might be

Why did you dislike her from the start, exactly - what did she do/say that caused such an intense hatred?

But that is what we want. We demand to watch people making prats of themselves on TV (and a bit of porn never hurt anyone either). And then we want to be hypocritical and complain about it.

We have every right to. They signed all their rights away when they entered and we've bought and paid for the priviledge with our text votes and the advertising revenue we generate.

So what if they are human beings. Don't they know that TV is far more important

But she's SOOOO obviously a slapper.

So what you're saying then is that you reserve the right to ruin someone's life because they agreed to appear on a TV Reality gameshow? Do you think other countries think like this? Does it give you some sort of peculiar pleasure when you realise that because someone did something that the majority of the voting public WANTED to happen, they can then be ridiculed to the point of causing emotional trauma outside of the house?

They may have signed away their rights to privicy within the house - I don't understand how that then means that every ounce of dirt and innuendo can be thrown at them from outside the house. Wasnt the original idea of BB to see how people reacted when placed under public scrutiny? I don't remember that including the tabloids rummiging through their closets to dig out long forgotten skeletons.

But then, like English Sport, we like to see people fail so we can ridicule them. Sad, very sad.

Why, because she slept with someone?

How predictibly pathetic - the typical response which has no basis in fact. Female sleeps with someone = slapper.

Pathetic.

[quote=Belgarion]What is with the British Public?? If these boards are anything to go by, the HM's just have no chance at all.


Just wanted to say Belgarion that this was the best comment I have read here for a long time.

I just don't get how people take any of this seriously. Its just a gameshow, that members of the public jump at the chance to be in.

The public laugh and joke at the shite that pop idol deals out, and I do the same with BB. Thats why I can't understand all the hate thats thrown at housemates year after year.

Kitten breaks (the fictional rules) = out, Michelle likes sex and acts on it = out, Marco is a bitch = out.

In the end who cares as long as its a laugh. If they get hurt in the process its everyones fault. We watch the show that the producers put on with the housemates consent. No one forces that upon us.

Wonderful post/thread Belgarion.I don't think I've ever agreed more with a poster in my three years here.

As you say,why must Michelle be branded a slut or as someone else so elegantly said a slapper
Michelle is ok and of course Stuart who was already God status has now risen to Cosmic.

Belgarion I am absolutely loving your work.

You obviously failed to appreciate the irony which is normally associated with a roll eyes smiley and choose to mount your high horse

Of course it should not work like that - but the fact is that BB housemates are the "gladiators" of the 21st century and the TV audience is the baying crowd in the Colliseum. They exist because we exist. The same argument applies to the the tabloid newspapers that everyone despises.

The housemates go into the house to earn fame and fortunes. Some will get hurt. The country enjoys watching this.

Remind me again how many centuries have passed since the games in Rome. Haven't progressed much have we?

*settles down on Belgarions Phsyciatrists couch*

She reminds me of some "real" girls I know. I dislike manipulative behaviour - and I saw that trait in her.
A question for you - why are you interested in my opinions anyway? Am I not allowed to post unless I agree with you?

I personally believe it's because of jealousy or attention seeking by those who hate. Listen to some of the comments made on these very boards. How can anyone possibly HATE (which is a very strong word) anyone in the Big Brother House? They don't know them. They've never met them. And yet they HATE them.

Someone even mentioned on here that if one of the housemates won, he'd slit his throat. What the hell sort of comment is that

I dislike certain housemates. That's an opinion based so far on the attitudes shown within the house so far, and is not based on any instant HATRED towards someone.

I'll even go on record for saying I like Michelle. I have yet to see anything that says to me she's not likable. Hell, I even like Victor - he's humourous when he tries to be Bling Bling Alpha, but he has opinions that I don't share, yet I don't want to see him stoned when he leaves the house!

I suppose it's these people who also think that XXXX is soo fit - they gotta win! Arrgh I can't stand that phrase... ohh so fit... fit... gotta txt it in to BB.... <mumble>

We'd never have guessed

I wasn't responding to that comment - I was responding to the rest of your post that did not have any emote associated with it.


Now this I understand. The housemates know this. We know this. The damned tabloids know this. I am not disputing this at all.

What I am disputing is that the public don't need to be as spiteful and moronic when it comes to giving opinions. Something happens on BB - no matter what it is, it'll be pulled to pieces by the majority of us - just because we can. We don't need to. But we will.


Unless I'm mistaken, weren't the victims slaves and criminals? And I don't think there were slimy Sun journalists trying to find out the sordid background of each victim?

Absolutely not - I'm always right

No seriously, you have given a reason now - which in my eyes, validates your opinions of her. I may not agree, but at least you have given a constructive reason as to why you dislike her. And that's a good thing. If only other people who give impulsive reasoning would explain it - however briefly - so we know there is a mind behind the words.

<chuckle> Not quite THAT much! I wouldn't say I want her to win - in fact, I wouldn't say I want anyone to win yet - I don't really know them well enough to judge that. Give it a month... then I'll be able to give my own opinions hehe!

Spot on.

My girlfriend said to me yesterday that she hated Kitten and I asked her the same thing.

Dislike, yes. Kitten would never be invited for tea at my house, but I respect the right she has to be as she is, as long as no one gets hurt (including her).

Same for most of them, Dan, Jason and Vanessa might get an invite. The rest I don't care.

Belgarion. Agree tottaly. Ive been saying this ever since the first BB series. Its a game show, and imo, every one of the hm's should be applauded when leaving the house, for providing us with a great show, no matter who they are, or. After all, without all these 'hate' figures (as well as the ,funny, entertaining ones) BB would be a damp squib and we wouldnt get the show we all enjoy so much.

I heard that they are planning to have to give Kitten 24 hour security if and when she leaves, because they fear some of the public will physically atack her. This is just effing ridiculous and makes me despair of SOME sections of the british public.
The mob in full howling fury, sickening. imo

/history mode on

Actually no - many gladiators (not most I'll give you) chose to participate for the money or for the fame.

/ history mode off

I think the Great British Public is, if taken in toto, spiteful and moronic. And I don't think the USA or other nations are substantially different.

Isn't the word for it german - schadenfreude?

Could it have something to do with the fact that a couple of million people are watching her, newspapers will be splashing it all over the front pages and with her having seen previous BBs the assumption is that she knows exactly the sort of impact it will have vis a vis nominations and public interest. She was clearly gunning for girly-man from day one and to these jaded eyes the whole scenario smacks of contrivance. This is all post Helen /Paul, Jade/PJ and Kate/Spencer bear in mind. Michelle’s no fool.

I’m no moralist either but you’d think a little restraint would be in order. Same with the other HMs sobbing and missing their families already. It’s only been a couple of weeks away from them. My own theory is that any outré behaviour this early on is part of a larger performance designed to a) Garner attention with a view to increasing public profile upon leaving the house b) Safeguard against nomination while inside the house by creating a strong ally and promising more televised raunch. Stuart, while not an Alpha male like Victor or Jason, is clearly going to be one of the long-termers simply based on his looks if nothing else. An alliance with him would get Michelle through to the final stages. Of that I have no doubt.

Guys will screw anything so the question of shagging on camera doesn’t really apply to Stuart but no girls I know would be quite so eager to perform pornography while their friends and parents watch. Just close your eyes and think of £100,000 Michelle.