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My Mum has just received a letter saying she is entitled to esa and will be in the support group, I have not saw the letter but it sounds pretty basic with not much info does anyone know if she is likely to receive any back dated payments and can she also apply for pip while on this esa? Also can you get the bus travel pass on esa or do you only get that with pip?
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It would not surprise me, as they are changing JSA to include illness in it.
They also have claimed that they will take 12b off the budget if they get it. If they was to take everyone off jsa it would only be about 2b. I am in support group, but I honestly think me along with many others will not be put back in at next assessment. I believe they will change the goal posts and shove many who are not fit into work. There are not jobs for those who are able as it is. Many many more suicides I think if they get back in. Oh lord. Being on ESA wrag is definitely making me worse though I can see why they do it, in the hope they bog u down so much you will be forced into work (bullied) , or you will just have to come off ESA and starve to death / kill yourself etc. If anyone in this thread has any ideas on what part time work I can do to come off ESA please let me know (or working from home). Open to any ideas! Have chronic anxiety where I can vomit spontaneously over usually something very minor, also weak immune system from stress so I have virus every month which knocks me out for a week at least each time. Really ill this week so dreading having to call the 'work program' tomorrow to call in sick and speak to one of the patronising morons. I at least live with parents and have a couple of grand in savings so I count myself one of the lucky ones! |
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Oh lord. Being on ESA wrag is definitely making me worse though I can see why they do it, in the hope they bog u down so much you will be forced into work (bullied) , or you will just have to come off ESA and starve to death / kill yourself etc.
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My Mum has just received a letter saying she is entitled to esa and will be in the support group, I have not saw the letter but it sounds pretty basic with not much info does anyone know if she is likely to receive any back dated payments and can she also apply for pip while on this esa? Also can you get the bus travel pass on esa or do you only get that with pip?
also an update, i finally got my assessors report through the post a week ago, i had to ring up 5 times for it, they kept saying we sent it every time, it was a joke, it was like they didnt want me to have a copy, anyway, i am happy with what was said in it. and im happy i got in the support group. thanks for all the advice too in this thread, it was very good thread
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Does anybody know if its true that the 'work related activity' component is going to be scrapped from ESA?
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My Mum has just received a letter saying she is entitled to esa and will be in the support group, I have not saw the letter but it sounds pretty basic with not much info does anyone know if she is likely to receive any back dated payments and can she also apply for pip while on this esa? Also can you get the bus travel pass on esa or do you only get that with pip?
If she is transferring to ESA from IB or IS, the extra money will be paid from the date that her IB or IS stops. She can apply for PIP and the bus pass is only automatic for people with the enhanced rate of the mobility component. However, she may be entitled to a bus pass on medical grounds regardless of any benefit award, on the grounds of her disability alone. She should speak to her local council. |
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Does anybody know if its true that the 'work related activity' component is going to be scrapped from ESA?
In any event, any changes would only happen after a new government is appointed and how that government approaches the benefits issue would depend upon the composition of that government Quote:
Is this a new claim for ESA? If so, the extra money for being in the support group (£35.75 pw support group component + £15.55 pw enhanced disability premium) should be backdated to a date 13 weeks after the date her ESA claim started.
If she is transferring to ESA from IB or IS, the extra money will be paid from the date that her IB or IS stops. She can apply for PIP and the bus pass is only automatic for people with the enhanced rate of the mobility component. However, she may be entitled to a bus pass on medical grounds regardless of any benefit award, on the grounds of her disability alone. She should speak to her local council. Quote:
Eligibility reason 1 - You receive an automatic qualifying benefit
The benefits for automatic eligibility are: Higher Rate Mobility Component of Disability Living Allowance Personal Independence Payment (PIP), where you have been awarded at least eight points against either the PIP “Moving around” and/or “Communicating verbally” activities War Pensioner’s Mobility Supplement Blue Badge Holder Eligibility reason 2 - Eligibility under qualifying disabilities Your disability must be permanent and have lasted at least 12 months, or likely to last at 12 months or are likely to recur. The disability must have a substantial effect on your ability to carry out normal day-to-day activities. The seven qualifying categories of disability are as follows: you are registered blind or partially sighted you are profoundly or severely deaf you are without speech you have a disability, or has suffered an injury, which has a substantial and long-term adverse effect on your ability to walk you do not have arms or have long-term loss of the use of both arms you have a learning disability, that is, a state of arrested or incomplete development of mind which includes significant impairment of intelligence and social functioning if you applied for the grant of a licence to drive a motor vehicle under Part III of the Road Traffic Act 1988, you would have your application refused pursuant to section 92 of the Act (physical fitness) otherwise than on the ground of persistent misuse of drugs or alcohol. |
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Is this a new claim for ESA? If so, the extra money for being in the support group (£35.75 pw support group component + £15.55 pw enhanced disability premium) should be backdated to a date 13 weeks after the date her ESA claim started.
If she is transferring to ESA from IB or IS, the extra money will be paid from the date that her IB or IS stops. She can apply for PIP and the bus pass is only automatic for people with the enhanced rate of the mobility component. However, she may be entitled to a bus pass on medical grounds regardless of any benefit award, on the grounds of her disability alone. She should speak to her local council. |
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I seem to recall a proposal to reduce the WRAG component to 50p per week, ie a cut of £28.25 pw.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32084722
This is going to make people even more depressed, and below the breadline if this happens. |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32084722
This is going to make people even more depressed, and below the breadline if this happens. Cameron is just the same as the rest of them, and this false belief that welfare cuts are a 'vote winner ' is exactly what will probably lose them the election . |
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Please people dont vote conservatives, they are totally disgusting, what they have done and are doing to the disabled people and most vulnerable people in our society is just beyond shocking, and they get away with murder.
If conservatives do get to stay in power with a coalition or not, it will definitely be bad for disabled people. labour on the other hand are just as bad as the conservatives, maybe they wont cute benefits for disabled, but they might if they need to form a coalition. take for example a *quote* from janet street porter on question time, she said that most people dont care or mind what the conservatives are doing to benefits, i find this totally wrong, such a stupid thing to say, i would guess that nearly everyone in this country know or have someone in their family who have been affected in some way to the cuts to the benefits system and also the cuts to benefits for disabled people, so even those people that do know someone who have been affected im sure dont 100% agree with what the conservatives is doing, so janet street porter soundbite was utter garbage and nonesense. maybe she is a bit conservative herself, maybe she should just run for an mp for them.. I sum up my statement by saying this, i really hope people in this upcoming election do NOT vote for the conservative party, and do not give labour an overall majority either, we need another hung parliament, but not conservatives, maybe labour with some other parties. ed miliband is not the best leader, but there is no harm in seeing what he will be like, i am not for any political party anymore in the uk, i used to vote liberal, but what they done the last 5 years due to the coalition, as made me not care for liberal democrats anymore. Sorry for my bad spelling and punctuation mistakes. |
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Please people dont vote conservatives, they are totally disgusting, what they have done and are doing to the disabled people and most vulnerable people in our society is just beyond shocking, and they get away with murder.
If conservatives do get to stay in power with a coalition or not, it will definitely be bad for disabled people. labour on the other hand are just as bad as the conservatives, maybe they wont cute benefits for disabled, but they might if they need to form a coalition. take for example a *quote* from janet street porter on question time, she said that most people dont care or mind what the conservatives are doing to benefits, i find this totally wrong, such a stupid thing to say, i would guess that nearly everyone in this country know or have someone in their family who have been affected in some way to the cuts to the benefits system and also the cuts to benefits for disabled people, so even those people that do know someone who have been affected im sure dont 100% agree with what the conservatives is doing, so janet street porter soundbite was utter garbage and nonesense. maybe she is a bit conservative herself, maybe she should just run for an mp for them.. I sum up my statement by saying this, i really hope people in this upcoming election do NOT vote for the conservative party, and do not give labour an overall majority either, we need another hung parliament, but not conservatives, maybe labour with some other parties. ed miliband is not the best leader, but there is no harm in seeing what he will be like, i am not for any political party anymore in the uk, i used to vote liberal, but what they done the last 5 years due to the coalition, as made me not care for liberal democrats anymore. Sorry for my bad spelling and punctuation mistakes. bitter old sow. there are ofcourse some 'working class' people who support the tories benefit bashing. but these are the people brainwashed by newspapers such as the sun, not realising that they themselves could so easily be in the situation where they have to claim these benefits, then they will realise its not a cushy life laden with flat screen tv's. i know things may not be that different under labour, but they certainly cant be any worse than the conservatives who really are beyond contempt. |
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well i wouldnt take any notice of what Janet-Street Slaughter has to say.
bitter old sow. there are ofcourse some 'working class' people who support the tories benefit bashing. but these are the people brainwashed by newspapers such as the sun, not realising that they themselves could so easily be in the situation where they have to claim these benefits, then they will realise its not a cushy life laden with flat screen tv's. i know things may not be that different under labour, but they certainly cant be any worse than the conservatives who really are beyond contempt. |
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Hey, for people expecting their ESA payments on Wednesday 8th April, has your payment gone into your bank yet?
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Went into jobcentre today to get a envelope to post my fit note which was issued today, the jobcentre took my fit note and said they will forward it. Is this normal?
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Went into jobcentre today to get a envelope to post my fit note which was issued today, the jobcentre took my fit note and said they will forward it. Is this normal?
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It can go via the internal mail system.
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anyone know what the plans are for 'WRAG' under tories/labour ?
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anyone know what the plans are for 'WRAG' under tories/labour ?
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I have read that tories will remove wrag, tax dla/pip and stop cold weather payments. What I beleive of this I don't know but if they get in I believe that will happen. They already sneaked in a change to jsa meaning that you can go sick for longer whilst on it so you don't need to claim esa and get a possible extra £30 if you stay on it long enough. not sure how long you can do that on jsa so I may well not be sprouting true facts on this. They seem very cagey about benefit intentions from what I have saw reported.
Labour so far seem to be limiting child benefit, stopping cold weather payment for the wealthy, provide a job for the young which they will lose benefits if they refuse it, with youth allowance for slightly older people, keep/lower benefit cap where necessary, abolish bedroom tax, reform wca and support disabled people into working. The labour policies I got direct from their manifesto. |
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Panic Attack after 'Work group meeting'
this is the third time this has happened now in the space of a few months, i just do not know how much longer i can go on doing this.
today i had another 'meeting' (which are fortnightly) but i havent been able to make the last two. my advisor has suddenly started becoming quite agressive and smug, on the spot he asked me to look for a voluntary position from this leaflet and i said i would take it home. its becoming clear he is under some sort of pressure to get rid of his 'customers'. these work providers truley are awful and i would never have believed the stories i read on the internet till i have become a 'victim' myself. today i left the building, started crying and breathing uncontrolably so i had to run into the cemetry of all places to calm down. now i am in the library and just do not know what to do for the best. shall i sign off benefits altogether and try and find another way of making the £100 a week from some sort of work from home scheme? though that is what i have been looking for for ages 1 ![]() ![]() ![]() I CANNOT KEEP going to this work provider for WRAG it is MAKING ME WORSE !!! surely this is detrimental to my recovery. i am at a loss over what to do and any advice would be greatly appreciated. |
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Pinkprint did you know you can get your GP to write a sick note so you don't have to attend these meetings?
I don't know of the exact wording (hopefully someone will be of more use for that) but basically if the gp agrees they can do the note and the JC can't make you attend them. |
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Pinkprint did you know you can get your GP to write a sick note so you don't have to attend these meetings?
I don't know of the exact wording (hopefully someone will be of more use for that) but basically if the gp agrees they can do the note and the JC can't make you attend them. i am still shaking now whats wrong with me? i really do not think i can go in that bizarre place again, in the middle of the meeting suddenly my adviser and all the advisers around me started frantically clapping, i asked why everyone had started clapping and he said it was because one of the advisers had just 'found someone work' WTF . he also said to me 'i hope you have been out and about enjoying the sun, none of my clients seem to have been doing anything in this weather', MAYBE BECAUSE THEY ARE MEANT TO BE ILL ?! just goes to show how clueless these people are. sorry to rant on. |
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hey. no i had no idea that was possible? i presumed you either attended these meetings, or starved ! so would i have to converse with an adviser at the job centre first?
i am still shaking now whats wrong with me? i really do not think i can go in that bizarre place again, in the middle of the meeting suddenly my adviser and all the advisers around me started frantically clapping, i asked why everyone had started clapping and he said it was because one of the advisers had just 'found someone work' WTF . he also said to me 'i hope you have been out and about enjoying the sun, none of my clients seem to have been doing anything in this weather', MAYBE BECAUSE THEY ARE MEANT TO BE ILL ?! just goes to show how clueless these people are. sorry to rant on. |
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