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Girls Aloud vs The Saturdays
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WelshieRachel
08-07-2010
Sound Of The Underground
Up
Life Got Cold
Just Can't Get Enough
The Show
Love Machine
I'll Stand by You
Wake Me Up

I love both bands separately, but I don't actually like three of The Sats' singles and am indifferent to the new one so this was a bit biased towards Girls Aloud before I started!
trawets09
08-07-2010
By the way I just checked and GAs total UK singles sales are around 3.7 million

The Saturdays are around 1.4 million

Given that GA have released 21 singles which is three times as many as The Saturdays currently have I dont think GA have done nearly as amazingly as certain fans would have us believe. The Sats are very much at the same level singles wise.
kutox
08-07-2010
Originally Posted by trawets09:
“Firstly I never stated what I said as fact it was merely my opinion you said none of The Saturdays singles would be seen as classics in a way that to me sounded as though you could see 10 years into the future to know such a thing.

As for Wordshaker flopping that is irrelevant they just released it with a mediocre first single, Ego went on to sell almost 300k, how many GA singles have done that? not many.

Missing You could well be a massive hit, no one knows YET. Oh and they aren't releasing a third album YET merely a mini album to satisfy fans before the proper 3rd album ”

And I never stated anything as fact either, merely my opinion, only you felt like pointing it out first time as if I hadn't done.

Why is Wordshaker flopping irrelevant? I know Ego was a reasonable hit, but surely if it really was as great as you're saying it would of persuaded people to buy the album? My point is that even though a lot of people bought it (they did perform it on several tv shows, and it even featured in a tv ad) it didn't boost the album sales by much, even after they performed it on Dancing On Ice in front of about 10 million viewers. There are other songs by artists that didn't chart in the top 10 but boosted album sales considerably, which is the main thing at the end of the day. Selling 300k of a single doesn't count for much if it doesn't help the album.

Missing You might be a hit in the charts (that's inevitable actually, even Forever Is Over reached #2), but is it really going to be a defining pop hit, like Call The Shots was? I doubt it.
kryskrys
08-07-2010
Originally Posted by trawets09:
“By the way I just checked and GAs total UK singles sales are around 3.7 million

The Saturdays are around 1.4 million

Given that GA have released 21 singles which is three times as many as The Saturdays currently have I dont think GA have done nearly as amazingly as certain fans would have us believe. The Sats are very much at the same level singles wise.”

I love both GA and The Saturdays, but just to play devil's advocate, Girls Alouds' last album sold about 770,000. The Saturdays' sold 70,000.

Plus singles sales are a lot higher nowadays, because of iTunes etc. I reckon if you extrapolated Girls Alouds' early sales figures, they'd on average be much higher than The Saturdays. And singles are pretty much meaningless anyway, its only albums that will make them any money.
spkx
08-07-2010
Originally Posted by trawets09:
“By the way I just checked and GAs total UK singles sales are around 3.7 million

The Saturdays are around 1.4 million

Given that GA have released 21 singles which is three times as many as The Saturdays currently have I dont think GA have done nearly as amazingly as certain fans would have us believe. The Sats are very much at the same level singles wise.”

Go look at music sales in 2002-2005 (just before downloads counted as they do now) and you'll see why.
kutox
08-07-2010
Originally Posted by trawets09:
“By the way I just checked and GAs total UK singles sales are around 3.7 million

The Saturdays are around 1.4 million

Given that GA have released 21 singles which is three times as many as The Saturdays currently have I dont think GA have done nearly as amazingly as certain fans would have us believe. The Sats are very much at the same level singles wise.”

SIngles sales have picked up over the last few years to be fair. Most of Girls Aloud's material was released when singles sales were really struggling - heck, you could get a no.1 by selling about 20,000 at one point. It's all relative. That considered, GA's chart record is impeccable, and (most importantly) their albums have consistently sold good amounts.

Anyway why is it all about sales? Girls Aloud are seen - not just by pop fans, serious critics and musicheads too - as an era-defining pop group. The Saturdays have no chance of being seen that way with the material they have released so far, instead merely as another decent girl band. Don't get me wrong I do like them, but I am still waiting for them to release any song that blows us all away.
spkx
08-07-2010
Here are the stats, by the way, of total single sales:

2002 32m
2003 30.8m
2004 32.2m
2005 47.8m
2006 66.9m
2007 86.5m
2008 115.1m
2009 152m

So almost a 5x increase in sales from 2003 to last year, hence why comparing sales of singles from back then to recently is useless.
kutox
08-07-2010
Originally Posted by spkx:
“Here are the stats, by the way, of total single sales:

2002 32m
2003 30.8m
2004 32.2m
2005 47.8m
2006 66.9m
2007 86.5m
2008 115.1m
2009 152m

So almost a 5x increase in sales from 2003 to last year.”

Yep, that blows that argument out of the water.
trawets09
08-07-2010
Originally Posted by kryskrys:
“Plus singles sales are a lot higher nowadays.”

Single sales in the 1990s peed all over sales today from a great height. Im talking mostly about days before the net/illegal downloading was new.

Quote:
“And I never stated anything as fact either, merely my opinion, only you felt like pointing it out first time as if I hadn't done.”

You said they WOULDN'T be regarded as memorable songs in the future, that to me isn't an opinion but a fact you have drawn up for yourself


Quote:
“Missing You might be a hit in the charts (that's inevitable actually, even Forever Is Over reached #2), but is it really going to be a defining pop hit, like Call The Shots was? I doubt it.”

Why are you comparing FIO to Call the Shots? compare Ego to CTS that would be more fair
trawets09
08-07-2010
Originally Posted by spkx:
“Here are the stats, by the way, of total single sales:

2002 32m
2003 30.8m
2004 32.2m
2005 47.8m
2006 66.9m
2007 86.5m
2008 115.1m
2009 152m

So almost a 5x increase in sales from 2003 to last year, hence why comparing sales of singles from back then to recently is useless.”

Where did you find these figures?

And even if true The Saturdays have STILL had good sales for todays market and singles wise they ARE at the same level as GA, just aren't with album sales YET.

I respect The Saturdays waaaaay mre than GA anyway because they worked their way up from scratch, they didn't have it thrown to them on a reality show golden plate.
kutox
08-07-2010
Originally Posted by trawets09:
“Is that a joke? single sales in the 1990s/early 2000s peed all over sales today from a cast height. Im talking mostly about days when before the net/illegal downloading was new.”

Check the figures above. Don't even bother trying to say they aren't correct.

Originally Posted by trawets09:
“You said they WOULDN'T be regarded as memorable songs int he future, that to me isn't an opinion but a fact you have drawn up for yourself”

Oh right, and you saying "Up and Ego are more remarkable than ANYTHING GA put out" is different is it? Don't be so hypocritical.


Originally Posted by trawets09:
“Why are you comparing FIO to Call the Shots? compare Ego to CTS that would be more fair”

I was actually comparing Missing You to CTS, but fair enough, if we're comparing Ego to CTS instead - CTS reached no.3 and sold a very decent amount for the time it was released. Ego reached no.9 and also sold decently. But amongst critics and publications at the time CTS was far more revered than Ego was, and generally seen as a real quality, memorable pop tune.
PeteIsGod
08-07-2010
I hate these threads - it just leads to stan wars.

I'd go:
SOTU
Up
Issues
JCGE
The Show
Love Machine
Ego
Wake Me Up

I think, overall, The Saturdays will never match the success of GA.
trawets09
08-07-2010
Quote:
“But amongst critics and publications at the time CTS was far more revered than Ego was, and generally seen as a real quality, memorable pop tune.”

Absolutely says it all


Originally Posted by kutox:
“Oh right, and you saying "Up and Ego are more remarkable than ANYTHING GA put out" is different is it? Don't be so hypocritical.”

Are you for real?

How is giving my opinion on certain songs being better than others the same as saying whether YEARS FROM NOW a song will be regarded as memorable or not.

THINK ABOUT IT

Im through arguing with you anyway
Gaspanic!
08-07-2010
Sound Of The Underground
No Good Advice
Life Got Cold
Jump
The Show
Love Machine
I'll Stand by You
Wake Me Up

8-0 Girls Aloud
spkx
08-07-2010
Originally Posted by trawets09:
“Where did you find these figures?

And even if true The Saturdays have STILL had good sales for todays market and singles wise they ARE at the same level as GA, just aren't with album sales YET.

I respect The Saturdays waaaaay mre than GA anyway because they worked their way up from scratch, they didn't have it thrown to them on a reality show golden plate.”


Do you have any idea how The Sats were formed? Polydor wanted a new group to be ready for when Ga left the scene. They held auditions and formed a group just like a reality TV show. Sure it wasn't on TV but to say they "worked their way up from scratch" is laughable! They were manufactured just like Girls Aloud and signed to label who spent millions to launch them
trawets09
08-07-2010
Originally Posted by spkx:
“Do you have any idea how The Sats were formed? Polydor wanted a new group to be ready for when Ga left the scene. They held auditions and formed a group just like a reality TV show. Sure it wasn't on TV but to say they "worked their way up from scratch" is laughable! They were manufactured just like Girls Aloud and signed to label who spent millions to launch them”

The audition process/creation still wasn't watched over months by millions of viewers. How you can say that doesn't make a difference is laughable.
kutox
08-07-2010
Originally Posted by trawets09:
“Absolutely says it all




Are you for real?

How is giving my opinion on certain songs being better than others the same as saying whether YEARS FROM NOW a song will be regarded as memorable or not.

THINK ABOUT IT

Im through arguing with you anyway”

Believe it or not, it also happened to be just my opinion that many of Girls Aloud's songs will be remembered more in the future. Why am I not allowed to state that as my opinion? Don't know what makes you think I was stating it as fact any more than you were.

I think you're the one that needs to THINK ABOUT IT.
Gaspanic!
08-07-2010
Damn!, No good advice is a TUNEEEEE.

gulity pleasure.
kutox
08-07-2010
Originally Posted by Gaspanic!:
“Damn!, No good advice is a TUNEEEEE.

gulity pleasure.”

Yeah that's always been one of my fave GA songs too Wouldn't call it a guilty pleasure though I've been listening to all their albums a lot recently, sometimes I forget how many amazing songs they've had - and not just the singles!
spkx
08-07-2010
Originally Posted by trawets09:
“The audition process/creation still wasn't watched over months by millions of viewers. How you can say that doesn't make a difference is laughable.”

I was picking up on YOUR comments that they had "worked their way up from scratch"

Of course not being televised made a slight difference (I don't think I suggested it wasn't), but it's not a difference which required them to do any work at all, only the record company. You make it sound they had formed as friends, performed in bars as an unsigned act and worked for years to get a record deal. In reality they only had to audition just like Kimberley, Nadine, etc. Polydor spent millions launching them with one of the best PR teams in the UK. All they had to do was mime and look pretty.

If anything Girls Aloud had to work harder than them. At that point in time no reality TV had really done hugely well apart from Will Young. Their manager didn't care about them and they were releasing cheesey pop records. They took it on themselves to sack Louis Walsh, manage themselves for a bit and sort everything out.
spkx
08-07-2010
Originally Posted by kutox:
“Yeah that's always been one of my fave GA songs too Wouldn't call it a guilty pleasure though I've been listening to all their albums a lot recently, sometimes I forget how many amazing songs they've had - and not just the singles!”

I think a lot of their album tracks and even B-sides far surpass their singles. Waiting is a personal favourite of mine, and - going WAY back now - Graffiti My Soul
Shadow2009
08-07-2010
If This Is Love
Up
Issues
Jump
Work
Forever Is Over
Ego
Missing You
kryskrys
08-07-2010
Yeah Girls Aloud do have some incredible album tracks/B-sides, they definitely blow The Saturdays out of the water on that one.

My favourites are Memory Of You, Watch Me Go, Graffiti My Soul, She, Its Magic, Swinging London Town, Singapore and Close To Love.

I think if you listen to those songs it shows why Girls Aloud are in a different league to The Saturdays. They're just a lot more experimental and sound different to anything else out there. The Saturdays have some nice songs, but they're just typical girlband songs, theres nothing unique about them, and they'll never get the critical acclaim Girls Aloud have had.
jodiemg :)
08-07-2010
Originally Posted by Gaspanic!:
“Sound Of The Underground
No Good Advice
Life Got Cold
Jump
The Show
Love Machine
I'll Stand by You
Wake Me Up

8-0 Girls Aloud”

Agreed
The saturdays are probably just a tempory group to make the label some money while girls aloud are on a break. if they get back together, the sats will be dropped like that.
avon942
08-07-2010
Originally Posted by jodiemg :):
“Agreed
The saturdays are probably just a tempory group to make the label some money while girls aloud are on a break. if they get back together, the sats will be dropped like that.”

Theres space for both of them at fasination. I doubt girls aloud will even get back together but for the time being i hope cherl cole makes a full recovery.
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