I've only just come to the forum this year, and haven't seen a thread directly related to Kitten's politics, but does anyone else think that the Queen and the "aristocrats" are somewhat uninformed targets?

Just what causes does she support. Has she made any direct reference to any thing in particular or has it all been the support of minorities in any form?

I particularly liked No War (except Class War)

She's very lightweight and perfunctorily so...

No, she seems to have based her entire political philosophy on snippets of Das Kapital she read off the back of a Shredded Wheat packet. I think she missed the part about it being no. 37 in the cut-out-and-keep Worst Ideas Of Mankind series.

Kittens 40 years behind her time. Kevin Turvey was a better protestor

Seem pretty good targets to me to think off on the spur of the moment in front of TV cameras.

The elitist slagging off of Kitten on forums is getting up my nose - no doubt she can formulate her ideas better in writing with time to think - but live on TV? Easy to say you'd be more articulate - harder when it's you in that strange environment.

Sorta let Blair, Bush and the capitalists off a bit too easy that did. Don't know what queenie thought of it? She was reported as liking BB3 and voting (it was implied for Kate) so she might have been watching.

She's so cliche it's not even funny.....

Rik Mayall, am I right? I'd forgotten Kevin Turvey, cheers.

"I don`t know what I want but I want it now!"

Sir Henry at Rawlinson End

Crickey you lot are such snobs

Her heart's in the right place!

Kitten represents that embarrassingly unthinking lefty phase most people go through in their early to mid teens when everything was just not FAIR dammit! She seems stuck in it though.

Thats correct Papyrus

Although she resembles his character in the Young Ones as well.

No she doesn't. She represents the very noble group of people who started and still run CND - amongst other causes. You lot can scoff at her but it's activists like Kitten who ran it in the 70s and 80s and who organised some of the biggest demonstrations ever seen in this country - with next to no funds - and the peace camps at Greenham Common and Molesworth and who effectively rid this country of land based cruise missiles.

Activists - including ones not very articulate on live TV - change things. Us lot on forums change nowt

Depends if you think their aims and objectives are retarded or not I suppose. Nukes sure did their job keeping WW3 at bay.

I particulary liked when she got her **** out of there

she came out with complete twaddle and contridiction. Preacers corner is where she belongs.

Writing swear words on mirrors is not noble.

I think she tried to do the right thing, but my god, she goes about it the wrong way indeed.

"This one's for the Queen, and this one's for the aristocracy!"?

Now, I'm a long way from being a monarchist, but what is this? Eighteenth Century France?

Good god - you have lost the plot! I'm sure the "noble" people you refer to must be sick to think that Kitten represents the fruits of their efforts in the last 30 years! Kitten is a spoilt rich kid who wants to protest but has no real idea about the causes she claims to support! She reminds me of the Viz charecter Milli-Tant!!!!!!

aristocrats....mmm....the ones that go to private £12,000 year schools. oh dear, what a silly girl.

Yeah, it's so shocking being an aristocrat and getting upset by kitten!

Kitten is still young and has a lot to learn about people and treating others equally.

Some of the fine ideals and ideas were good; however, the equality she often mentioned she did not always show to others in the house.

I feel sorry for her.
Maybe she has been a pawn?

Shall we all club together and buy Kitten a one way ticket to North Korea or Cuba, seeing as she seems to think a socialist state is better. That would be the last we'd hear of her niave rantings. It's one thing to fight against something but unless you hear all sides then you just look silly. If Kitten wants someone to look up two she should try Micheal Moore or Mark Thomas at least they back up their arguments if still a little one sided. She strikes me as a rebel without a clue unfortunately.

kevin turvey...... the young ones....millie tant in viz..... a spoilt little rich girl blah dee blah

when we persistently reduce a person to nothing more than a cartoon it is usually a clear sign that we are not really perceiving that person, we are instead perceiving a ready made prejudice from inside our heads.

Prejudice is a premature judgment--a positive or a negative attitude towards a person or group of people which is not based on objective facts.

prejudicial pre-judgemwents tend to unfairly prevent a person from being perceived as anything other than some preconceived caricature.

prejudgments are usually based on stereotypes which are oversimplified and overgeneralized views of groups or types of people. or a prejudgment may be based on an emotional experience we have had with a similar person in the past, it becomes our own personal stereotype preventing us from objectively perceiving reality.

Stereotypes provide us with pre-loaded role expectations, i.e. how we expect the other person (or group,) to relate to us and to other people.

Of course, sometimes individual people are somewhat like the stereotype but it is a gross injustice to automatically assume that to be the totality of their being.

I don't know about aristocrats but that house was absolutely chock full of queens...