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Kitten already selling her story
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plums
05-06-2004
Has anyone read the interview in the Independent with her Dad yet? If so can we have a precis please ?

I acknowledge that he is probably not aware of all her life and actions (as may be the case for many of us and our parents).
metafis
05-06-2004
Kitten had a point, the tabloid media nearly always preface a gay person with their sexuality, (eg teletext headline 'Lippy Lesbian Kitten'. You hardy ever see them state the sexuality of a straight person like this.
Rubber Nun
05-06-2004
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“As you so often point out ..... how do you know what I'm thinking?

For the record, I adore Kitten. And I adore despite her faults, especially when she so openly & honestly admits to them.”

If the story about her locking a girlfriend in room proves to be true, will you "adore" that too?
mr_ray
05-06-2004
Originally Posted by Mesostim:
“Great wasn't she ”

As entertainment? I'm sure most would agree. But as a person.....?

I don't doubt for a minute that she added a lot to the show, though.
neituoisogni
05-06-2004
It is unbelievable the far right views being shown here. The really scary part is that those expressing them don't realise it. This is how National Socialism brainwashed people and found those that ran the death camps. There is more to life than hanging and sectioning and curtain twitching. Thatchers children have come out to play. And by the way you do not have to be staight and white and male to be a Fascist.
EddyBee
05-06-2004
Originally Posted by plums:
“Has anyone read the interview in the Independent with her Dad yet? If so can we have a precis please ?

I acknowledge that he is probably not aware of all her life and actions (as may be the case for many of us and our parents).”

I posted a link to it on this thread here, page 3 towards the bottom.


http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/...3&page=3&pp=25
cword
05-06-2004
Originally Posted by Rubber Nun:
“If the story about her locking a girlfriend in room proves to be true, will you "adore" that too?”

Quick call the Police!!!!

A couple have just had an arguement - I just can't believe it. Society is just falling to pieces in front of our very eyes
Hetty Harelip
05-06-2004
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“As you so often point out ..... how do you know what I'm thinking?

For the record, I adore Kitten. And I adore despite her faults, especially when she so openly & honestly admits to them.”

Yes, admirable, isn't it! She is candour and openness incarnate.
plums
05-06-2004
Originally Posted by Mesostim:
“Great wasn't she ”

She did BB and the tabloids proud !! For an anticapitalist activist she sure filled their coffers to the brim :yawn:
plums
05-06-2004
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“I posted a link to it on this thread here, page 3 towards the bottom.


http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/...3&page=3&pp=25”

Cheers !! A very interesting read...........
Hetty Harelip
05-06-2004
Originally Posted by neituoisogni:
“It is unbelievable the far right views being shown here. The really scary part is that those expressing them don't realise it. This is how National Socialism brainwashed people and found those that ran the death camps. There is more to life than hanging and sectioning and curtain twitching. Thatchers children have come out to play. And by the way you do not have to be staight and white and male to be a Fascist.”

Aw, come on. Isn't invoking the spectre of Nazism a little heavy-handed? As for being brainwashed, ironically it was the Nazis at Nuremberg who pointed out that history would be (re)written by the victors. And, no, this is NOT an endorsement of Nazism.
Mesostim
05-06-2004
Originally Posted by mr_ray:
“As entertainment? I'm sure most would agree. But as a person.....?

I don't doubt for a minute that she added a lot to the show, though.”

I think everyone on Big Brother has some character flaw or two.....I've enjoyed Kitten's contribution enormously but it's time to let go and move on.....

Just wait to later in the run when partisanship really kicks in...then we're in for some fun
EddyBee
05-06-2004
Originally Posted by Rubber Nun:
“If the story about her locking a girlfriend in room proves to be true, will you "adore" that too?”

.... now this is getting silly. A couple have an arguement
cword
05-06-2004
Originally Posted by Hetty Harelip:
“ ironically it was the Nazis at Nuremberg who pointed out that history would be (re)written by the victors.”

I find that statement so shocking depite your disclaimer that
Originally Posted by Hetty Harelip:
“this is NOT an endorsement of Nazism.”

What exactly is your point?
Mykonos
05-06-2004
Originally Posted by neituoisogni:
“It is unbelievable the far right views being shown here. The really scary part is that those expressing them don't realise it. This is how National Socialism brainwashed people and found those that ran the death camps. There is more to life than hanging and sectioning and curtain twitching. Thatchers children have come out to play. And by the way you do not have to be staight and white and male to be a Fascist.”


Good grief........its a BB discussion.
Hetty Harelip
05-06-2004
Originally Posted by cword:
“I find that statement so shocking depite your disclaimer that

What exactly is your point?”

What shocks you? That the Nazis made this claim or that I am making reference to it? What would you gain from censoring 20th century history or my making reference to it?
Mesostim
05-06-2004
Who's writing the history of Kitten then?
plums
05-06-2004
Originally Posted by neituoisogni:
“It is unbelievable the far right views being shown here. The really scary part is that those expressing them don't realise it. This is how National Socialism brainwashed people and found those that ran the death camps. There is more to life than hanging and sectioning and curtain twitching. Thatchers children have come out to play. And by the way you do not have to be staight and white and male to be a Fascist.”

Please be specific about who you wish to tar with the " Far Right" brush. You can use the Quote function - as I have done here - to pinpoint those who's views you disagree with.

So far the only post I've seen that looked like recruiting for the BNP I reported immediately and the DS moderator issued a warning to the poster.
Last edited by plums : 05-06-2004 at 12:16
Hetty Harelip
05-06-2004
Originally Posted by cword:
“Just a message of support - Well done EddyBee for standing your ground against the trolls in training. I fully agree with everything you've said.
In response to the thread title - Kitten already selling her story - has it crossed anyones mind this "story" was created simply so The Sun could get its (oh so hilarious) "joke" in about kitty litter and flea collars? ”

I, too, endorse your right to speak, though I'm in profound disagreement with you. Guess that makes me a troll in training.
cword
05-06-2004
Originally Posted by Hetty Harelip:
“I, too, endorse your right to speak, though I'm in profound disagreement with you. Guess that makes me a troll in training.”

Hmm did I mention names?
*pops back to look at original post*
Nope

Originally Posted by Hetty Harelip:
“What shocks you? That the Nazis made this claim or that I am making reference to it? What would you gain from censoring 20th century history or my making reference to it?”

What shocks me is that you scoff at neituoisognis post then go on to "advance" your point of view by quoting a Nazi claim.

As the song four years ago said "Its only a gameshow"
Hetty Harelip
05-06-2004
Originally Posted by cword:
“Hmm did I mention names?
*pops back to look at original post*
Nope


What shocks me is that you scoff at neituoisognis post then go on to "advance" your point of view by quoting a Nazi claim.

As the song four years ago said "Its only a gameshow"”

I was wrong then to infer that those who disagrred with young Eddy's views were trolls? I stand corrected. Your libertarian credentials are fully restored.
As to your second point, what do you find objectionable in the sequence of events? Is it wrong to discuss the Nazis who, with Stalin, represented the most murderous regimes of the 20th century. History would not thank you for having records purged of their existence.
Tell me, why "advance" in quotation marks? I should genuinely like to know. Did my posting lack clarity? Was it inelegantly phrased?
Rubber Nun
05-06-2004
Originally Posted by cword:
“Quick call the Police!!!!

A couple have just had an arguement - I just can't believe it. Society is just falling to pieces in front of our very eyes ”

Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“now this is getting silly. A couple have an arguement”

Do either of you lock people in rooms when you have an argument? This is normal and acceptable behaviour, how? I can't believe both of you have the gall to actually defend this.

For a woman that claims to act on behave of others against tolerance, oppression and bullying and sets herself as a paragon this is pathetic.
neituoisogni
05-06-2004
Gameshows are always a tool of government. Berlusconi was elected on the back of them. Under Fascism the most important and famous ministry was MINCULPOP, the ministry of popular culture which most certainly would have used programmes such as BB if TV had been available. East German TV and film production also shows this technique.
Hetty Harelip
05-06-2004
Originally Posted by plums:
“Please be specific about who you wish to tar with the " Far Right" brush. You can use the Quote function - as I have done here - to pinpoint those who's views you disagree with.

So far the only post I've seen that looked like recruiting for the BNP I reported immediately and the DS moderator issude a warning to the poster.”

In all candour, I question the wisdom of that. Is it not censorial and anti-democratic? The BNP has yet to advance a single cogent argument that would persuade me - and, clearly, the vast majority of sentient members of the community - to join it. Should they be deprived of their right to speak, however?
cword
05-06-2004
Originally Posted by Hetty Harelip:
“I was wrong then to infer that those who disagrred with young Eddy's views were trolls? I stand corrected. Your libertarian credentials are fully restored.”

Thank you
Originally Posted by Hetty Harelip:
“As to your second point, what do you find objectionable in the sequence of events? Is it wrong to discuss the Nazis who, with Stalin, represented the most murderous regimes of the 20th century.”

In relation to a Reality Game show - I personally think yes it is wrong
Originally Posted by Hetty Harelip:
“Tell me, why "advance" in quotation marks? I should genuinely like to know. Did my posting lack clarity? Was it inelegantly phrased?”

Quotation marks were there to show I didn't believe you were advancing anywhere. Are we all cleared up now Hetty?
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