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Old 11-07-2010, 02:46
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Hayden implying that the DR don't want him to nominate Annie.
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Old 11-07-2010, 02:47
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I'm having issues with Internet Explorer and those feeds and since BBViewer uses IE it's not working well for me I can only view feed 1.
It works OK for me, but only if I do it in this order:
1. Connect Hotspot Shield
2. Go to Superpass and log in as usual
3. Start BBViewerR3
4. Minimise the Superpass window
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Old 11-07-2010, 02:51
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Kristen resplendent almost wearing black......
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Old 11-07-2010, 02:52
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It works OK for me, but only if I do it in this order:
1. Connect Hotspot Shield
2. Go to Superpass and log in as usual
3. Start BBViewerR3
4. Minimise the Superpass window
I don't use Hotspot Shield anymore, I looked for a free proxy on the internet. Anyway, I had the issue too when I used Hotspot Shield

Feeds work good in Firefox tho but it's a resource drain. I really hope they do something about that because I can imagine people using an even older PC than I am are having serious issues with bad playback and those with a Mac are royally screwed because Flash and a Mac aren't really working good together.
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Old 11-07-2010, 02:57
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I don't use Hotspot Shield anymore, I looked for a free proxy on the internet. Anyway, I had the issue too when I used Hotspot Shield

Feeds work good in Firefox tho but it's a resource drain. I really hope they do something about that because I can imagine people using an even older PC than I am are having serious issues with bad playback and those with a Mac are royally screwed because Flash and a Mac aren't really working good together.
Real have shot themselves in the foot big-time over this haven't they. Incredible that they didn't have all this sorted out before the season started.
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:01
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Real have shot themselves in the foot big-time over this haven't they. Incredible that they didn't have all this sorted out before the season started.
It makes me think that it was a very late CBS decision to geo-block the feeds.
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:03
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I can't think of a better example of fixing something that's not broken. Real Superpass is this season's bloody saboteur!
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:03
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Ragan and Annie are discussing which of them is the most paranoid.
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:05
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Real have shot themselves in the foot big-time over this haven't they. Incredible that they didn't have all this sorted out before the season started.
The video they provide through the flash feeds is H.264. That's not meant for older PC's since it uses alot of CPU to decode that format.

I think the real problem is that they can't geo-block the .rm streams and that's why they have another system this season. It's not at all about the experience or other blabla. That's just the disguise.
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:07
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So I cancelled the feed, think I was still on my 3 day free trial, seems I was a few hours late and now stuck with this laggy slow LQ feed now
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:08
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It makes me think that it was a very late CBS decision to geo-block the feeds.
I don't think the geo-blocking is the problem - Real themselves have been recommending to disgruntled customers that they use a VPN, and that seems to work fine.

It's Real's own delivery of the stream that's the problem. No full screen, no always on top, no pop-out, preview screens of the 4 feeds are wrong or frozen most of the time. Aaaargh. Us BB fans have to suffer for our addiction.
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:10
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So I cancelled the feed, think I was still on my 3 day free trial, seems I was a few hours late and now stuck with this laggy slow LQ feed now
Just get in touch with their live support chat and demand your money back! Just say that you don't live in North America and can't watch them should do the trick. When I complained to 2 different assistants they both offered to give me my money back.

The feed's quality is fine tho. Just a bit laggy due to that stupid Flash using more resources than necessary.
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:11
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ikvd is right, lj.

Don't take no for an answer here.
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:13
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I don't think the geo-blocking is the problem - Real themselves have been recommending to disgruntled customers that they use a VPN, and that seems to work fine.

It's Real's own delivery of the stream that's the problem. No full screen, no always on top, no pop-out, preview screens of the 4 feeds are wrong or frozen most of the time. Aaaargh. Us BB fans have to suffer for our addiction.
CBS requested them to geo-block the feeds outside North America, it was told on the official BB Live Feed page on Facebook. They just don't want to loose customers and tell them how to work around it

Email them on help@real.com with your complaints SBBA. Maybe if enough people complain they'll do something... Hopefully.. One day soon..
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:14
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I don't think the geo-blocking is the problem - Real themselves have been recommending to disgruntled customers that they use a VPN, and that seems to work fine.

It's Real's own delivery of the stream that's the problem. No full screen, no always on top, no pop-out, preview screens of the 4 feeds are wrong or frozen most of the time. Aaaargh. Us BB fans have to suffer for our addiction.
RealPlayer saw the magic of that Las Vegas production after last season and decided to copy it......
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:15
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Sites like www.ificandream.com and http://dilemme.dailymotion.com show that it's possible to deliver a good streaming service using Flash.
Why is it not possible to geo-block a Real Player based stream?
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:17
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BTW: there's more problems with that player. It auto-adjusts to the bandwidth you have but it just does that at various times without any reason. The other problem is those little feeds at the side, they use a sh!tload of bandwidth and resources every time they update. If they would just have little jpg's being loaded, let's say, every 30 seconds it would use much less bandwidth and resources.
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:20
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Sites like www.ificandream.com and http://dilemme.dailymotion.com show that it's possible to deliver a good streaming service using Flash.
Why is it not possible to geo-block a Real Player based stream?
Dailymotion is ofcourse a pro in those things

Well, I'm assuming Real can't geo-block .rm, I'm not 100% sure. It could also be CBS demanded them to use the company that delivers the feeds right now (Clipsync I think).
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:24
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I thought that Flash was one of Real's competitors in online video delivery, but maybe there's some corporate tie-up higher up the tree.
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:26
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Andrew can't get Monet to see that the time difference between the coasts is 3hrs not 4.
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:28
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Enzo's accent cracks me up

And Britney is still cute
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:46
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Bleugh - Kristen is popping pimples on Ragan's back. Does every BB season have to feature this? Is it a contractual obligation?
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:50
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Andrew refuses to change his batteries for another hour.
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Old 11-07-2010, 05:56
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Ragan, Brandon, Rachel, discussing previous seasons and Ragan spouting his theories about each winner, mostly more-or-less correct IMO.
They have some booze.
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Old 11-07-2010, 05:58
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Kristen, Enzo, Britney in hot tub; general chat.
Others sitting in a circle ouside swapping high school memories.
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