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Cameron's assessment of the BB5s has changed my opinion of him
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George Smiley
06-06-2004
Originally Posted by Edna:
“You know I wonder why I bother posting at times.

Reality check people - I doubt very much Cameron wrote that himself or would have editorial control over content.

Edit: I forgot to say Graceland was on the right track.”

Spot on, Edna. I would imagine that most of these co-called "celebrity columns" are in fact penned by ghost writers.
metafis
06-06-2004
Originally Posted by The Blue Nun:
“Cameron is a creep. Always was, always will be. The only people who could like him are the kind of arseholes who support the BNP and those who are so thick to know any better.”

Ahh BNP supporters, those people who assume they know the characters of certain people., in spite of never having actually met them?. I agree, the BNP are arseholes.
marbri
06-06-2004
Goes without saying that people are free to like whom they like and change their opinions favourably or unfavourably towards people. We all do it in life. I´m just confused that this article does it for some. I´ve read it five times trying to see what I´m missing and I still don´t get it. Not seeing any great insight there or anything to make me reassess or give credit to anyone. Just one little opinion amongst the masses who are free to disagree, I´m just not seeing anything there that hasn´t been spoken about on the boards for a week now and viewed by many of us.
Edna
06-06-2004
Originally Posted by The Blue Nun:
“Spot on, Edna. I would imagine that most of these co-called "celebrity columns" are in fact penned by ghost writers.”

All of them are. Well ones like BB columns are.

As I said in another thread, we have quite heated discussions on here as to whether or not being in the BB house gives someone the qualifications to be a television presenter, so why should we assume it can also turn someone into a columnist overnight?

Can we lose the idea that doing a proper newspaper or magazine piece is easy? Carrie Bradshaw might just tap out the odd sentence on her laptop but that's not reality people.

Ask anyone who writes a column for Digi Spy here and they'll tell you it's hard work. I've no doubt the DS team have had to turn down applications from very competent forum members who just didn't have the knack of writing a column.

Jon's pieces for here might not be as polished, but he's written them himself in his spare time.
Edna
06-06-2004
By the way, I can spot a writing style a mile off and having read Cameron's numerous posts on another forum that shall not be named, I can confidently say that he did not write the newspaper piece all by himself.

There's enough people on here who know what forum I'm talking about - go have a look and compare the two styles for yourselves
biomorph04
06-06-2004
cameron: ".....trendy anarchists"

if only it were true. sadly the dominant trend of today is a trend for ultra-conformity and apathy.
George Smiley
06-06-2004
Originally Posted by Edna:
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Can we lose the idea that doing a proper newspaper or magazine piece is easy? Carrie Bradshaw might just tap out the odd sentence on her laptop but that's not reality people.

Ask anyone who writes a column for Digi Spy here and they'll tell you it's hard work. I've no doubt the DS team have had to turn down applications from very competent forum members who just didn't have the knack of writing a column.”

Indeed. I actually often read The Sun and I think it's hilarious. Tabloid journalism is a genuine art form. It's about getting very specific information across using very specific vocabulary.

And of course the Daily Mail isn't written by retired colonels and blue-rinsed WASP old ladies, it's written for that demographic.

And all the journos probably meet up in some swanky wine bar and have a good laugh at all of us.
George Smiley
06-06-2004
Originally Posted by biomorph04:
“cameron: ".....trendy anarchists"

if only it were true. sadly the dominant trend of today is a trend for ultra-conformity and apathy.”

Indeed. Kitten is almost a walking anachronism.
Gameshow Host
06-06-2004
Originally Posted by Mesostim:
“But this is a guy who is against her marriage because an ancient part of a badly translated religious text told him it's wrong.....”

You mean badly interpreted religious text. The Bible is translated into English very well, by professional translators. Unfortunately, a lot of people misunderstand it. There's nothing in The Bible about gay marriages.


Originally Posted by The Blue Nun:
“Cameron is a creep. Always was, always will be. The only people who could like him are the kind of arseholes who support the BNP and those who are so thick to know any better.”

So, you're saying that most people in this country (who voted Cameron to win) are the kind of areseholes who support the BNP? Surely, saying that makes you the kind of arsehole who supports the BNP, since you've just made a very offensive generalisation about everyone who likes Cameron.

Why does everyone here hate Cameron? Could anyone explain? I thought he was the nicest guy in there last year.
Mr Blonde
06-06-2004
Finally people are starting to come round...cameron is not the son of satan...he has done nothing wrong...his article is wonderful...far better than jon tickles...hopefully digital spy will sign him up next year...we would be proud to have him...
SULLA
06-06-2004
Originally Posted by Mr Blonde:
“Finally people are starting to come round...cameron is not the son of satan...he has done nothing wrong...his article is wonderful...far better than jon tickles...hopefully digital spy will sign him up next year...we would be proud to have him...”

Mr Blonde this a wind up correct ???
Mr Blonde
06-06-2004
No...i dont do wind ups...
SULLA
06-06-2004
Originally Posted by Mr Blonde:
“No...i dont do wind ups...”

And I thought you were a fun person
George Smiley
06-06-2004
Originally Posted by Gameshow Host:
“So, you're saying that most people in this country (who voted Cameron to win) are the kind of areseholes who support the BNP? Surely, saying that makes you the kind of arsehole who supports the BNP, since you've just made a very offensive generalisation about everyone who likes Cameron..”

I wrote that the people who support Cameron, based on several articles he's written and the "Cameron Stout: Bigger, Longer And Uncut" on E4 (as opposed to the sanitised Channel 4 shows, where all his offensive behaviour was curiously absent), must either be reactionary BNP scum or those "who are too thick to know any better". I wonder which category you fall into?


Quote:
“Why does everyone here hate Cameron? Could anyone explain? I thought he was the nicest guy in there last year..”

There's numerous threads dealing with what an odious bastard Cameron is, settle yourself down with some cocoa and biscuits and read.
iain
06-06-2004
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“I'm as gobsmacked as you Mes.
This time I will give him credit where it's due.

This time Cameron has a better handle on things than Jon.
By quite a margin I might add, considering Jon thinks someone's being "fit" is a better quality in a person than their individuality. bad show Jon.
Aaargh,..what have I said
I should be ashamed of myself. ”

its almost as if...as if...i dunno - there's more to these *housemate people* than the 10 weeks we see of them stuck inside the BB house!]

Iain
iain
06-06-2004
Originally Posted by Graceland:
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Well I dont think Cameron wrote that, I think he got someone else to do it for him.Perhaps his brother in a
desparate way to make Cameron look like a really (NICE) and trendy person, when in actual fact he is still the same.
And will never change....................................

These words did not come out of Camerons mouth Iam sure of that.”

whats that? it was *desperate way* to make him look nice?

you know your big mistake there? presuming people give a monkeys? you think, much like, say, i dunno - Tom Cruise, has a whole backroom of various staff, Cameron has people behind the scenes, desperate to create this finely hones image of him? so he can become a big tv, amd maybe even film star?

you honestly don't think Cameron could come up with a second rate article for a second rate column in a second rate newspaper all by himself? that even that has to be part of a more sinister and alarming Cameron-like deviousness and cunning?

you guys crack me up, you really do!

Iain
George Smiley
06-06-2004
Originally Posted by iain:
“its almost as if...as if...i dunno - there's more to these *housemate people* than the 10 weeks we see of them stuck inside the BB house!]

Iain ”

Yes. Shocking, isn't it?
iain
06-06-2004
Originally Posted by Edna:
“All of them are. Well ones like BB columns are.”

whats that? newspapers aren't always what they seem? hmm - isn't it?

Iain
iain
06-06-2004
Originally Posted by The Blue Nun:
“Indeed. I actually often read The Sun and I think it's hilarious. Tabloid journalism is a genuine art form. It's about getting very specific information across using very specific vocabulary.

And of course the Daily Mail isn't written by retired colonels and blue-rinsed WASP old ladies, it's written for that demographic.

And all the journos probably meet up in some swanky wine bar and have a good laugh at all of us.”

its almost as if, yet i'm sure its not, as tho' you're saying that the tabloids have an uncanny knack of telling people what they want to hear?

i might have my wires crossed again tho'.

Iain
George Smiley
06-06-2004
Originally Posted by iain:
“its almost as if, yet i'm sure its not, as tho' you're saying that the tabloids have an uncanny knack of telling people what they want to hear?

i might have my wires crossed again tho'.

Iain ”

I'm saying that the tone and content of a particular paper (The Sun, The Daily Mail etc.) is somewhat attuned to the mindset of its readers. And people will usually filter what is presented before them through their own perspective.
iain
06-06-2004
Originally Posted by Gameshow Host:
“Why does everyone here hate Cameron? Could anyone explain? I thought he was the nicest guy in there last year.”

in a nutshell :

he did and said about three things, with which he was hung, drawn and quartered. and that was just for starters.

it was all *Cameron's an obnoxious (bloke from) *****
*I know - isn't he*
etc etc,
whereby people who didn't like him snowballed the thing to outrageous proportions, through the medium of positive reinforcement garnered within the confines of these forums, until things become reinforced to the point where they become *fact*, regardless of whether or not they are.

i think that was about it anyway.

the whole *positive reinforcement* thing has actually handily taken place in this thread.

ie

*i wouldn't be surprised if he didn't even write that article*
*i didn't think he would have written it either*
*absolutely - i don't think any of these things are written by their apparent authors*
*these things are never written by their authors*
*from what everyone is saying, we can safely say he didn't write it*.

of course by then the point is lost - even if cameron's article had been edited for style or whatever, the chances are it still represents his opinion - but by now that doesn't matter, because it has been shown, once again, that he is A Very Evil Man. and so the myth self perpetuates.

Iain
George Smiley
06-06-2004
Originally Posted by iain:
“in a nutshell :

he did and said about three things, with which he was hung, drawn and quartered. and that was just for starters.

it was all *Cameron's an obnoxious (bloke from) *****
*I know - isn't he*
etc etc,
whereby people who didn't like him snowballed the thing to outrageous proportions, through the medium of positive reinforcement garnered within the confines of these forums.

i think that was about it anyway.

Iain”

Or indeed that he did behave like a **** in the house and lots of people coincidentally formed the same opinion and there seemed to be a general concensus of that opinion on this forum. I found some of his behaviour to be unpleasant and I disliked him.

Then again, the BB house is a very strange, pressurised environment and he may very well be a completely different person outside it. However, having formed a negative view of him based on what I saw in the house, I don't care enough about him to want to find out.
iain
06-06-2004
Originally Posted by The Blue Nun:
“Yes. Shocking, isn't it?”

it certainly is, i agree.

Iain
Charizard
07-06-2004
Originally Posted by Edna:
“By the way, I can spot a writing style a mile off and having read Cameron's numerous posts on another forum that shall not be named, I can confidently say that he did not write the newspaper piece all by himself.

There's enough people on here who know what forum I'm talking about - go have a look and compare the two styles for yourselves ”

Doesn't necessarily mean it's not fully representative of his opinions.
iain
07-06-2004
does that matter tho', if the aim is simply to cast Cameron in a bad light.

people are a bit surprised by his opinions in the article, and it goes against what they think of him - so the only possible answer is that it had nothing to do with him!

what othe explanation could there possibly be?

Iain
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