HTC Ace (aka HTC Desire HD)

technoflare · 12-08-2010, 18:51

as long as they are not exclusive! I dont really want to wait for 6 months for the rest of the networks to get them...

moox · 12-08-2010, 19:59

The Desire HD doesn't appear to be a truly amazing upgrade from my Desire.

whackyracer · 12-08-2010, 20:13

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Not a huge upgrade is it? All it will really do is to make your desires worth £25 second hand when it comes out. And of course provide HTC an excuse for yet more lag getting the latest version of android on the older phones. My 2 year old iPhone 3G is just about to be sold for £130. Kind of offsets the slightly more expensive iPhone 4 by...well, quite a lot. Surely HTC should be trying to bring their handsets into some kind of feature parity, or are they really going to be like the PCs of the 1990s?

Is that all you got for it?! I just sold my iPhone 3G 16gb and got £250 for it! Where did you sell it?

lalaland · 12-08-2010, 20:38

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Originally Posted by MrSuper

More news on HTC Desire HD aka HTC Ace and HTC Desire Z aka HTC Vision.

Apparently they're coming to T-Mobile in September, on the 22nd and 29th respectively. One released on each date.

The HTC Desire HD on T-Mobile will be renamed as the MyTouchHD and HTC Vision Z will be renamed as the G1Blaze.

Not really keen on T-Mobile getting hands on them and rebranding them.

http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2010/0...ing-september/

That article gives me the impression that it's talking about TMobile USA when I follow the HSPA+ link. Could be wrong, but that's how it read to me.

john_locke · 12-08-2010, 20:45

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Originally Posted by whackyracer

Is that all you got for it?! I just sold my iPhone 3G 16gb and got £250 for it! Where did you sell it?

dunno, wife did it but after "assessment" we apparently got £150ish each for our 8GB models, which were frankly "well used". that is what turned up in the bank anyway, i think mine may have got more than hers

MrSuper · 12-08-2010, 21:52

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Originally Posted by lalaland

That article gives me the impression that it's talking about TMobile USA when I follow the HSPA+ link. Could be wrong, but that's how it read to me.

I think you could be right. I don't think it said T-Mobile UK, just T-Mobile. That could mean anything!

MrSuper · 13-08-2010, 12:31

HTC are holding a press event in London on September 15th and it's very strongly rumoured this is the date the HTC Desire HD/ACE will be launched! Which means there's a very good chance the phone will be released in October.

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-...tember--709741

technoflare · 13-08-2010, 13:02

hmmm....still need to see if the new phones offer anything more than a new case or a keyboard...a few more MP from the same chip is not going to make it worth it..

andyf94 · 13-08-2010, 13:59

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Originally Posted by technoflare

hmmm....still need to see if the new phones offer anything more than a new case or a keyboard...a few more MP from the same chip is not going to make it worth it..

it's not the extra megapixels i'm after either...it's the extra millimeters on the screen.

HaraHeeHum · 13-08-2010, 17:02

Can anyone recommend a good, sleek protective cover for the Desire?

RED_ · 13-08-2010, 23:48

here we go, a bit of speculating that someone has done. The image is a teaser that HTC released for the event and with a bit of photoshopping a fair bit has been found.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...dog/review.jpg

Cant remember if this is a Win7 phone or not but because Win7 is being released in october in the UK im getting worried that we may not see Android on it after all. There is a good chance im wrong though as they have the HD2 and the HD3 (rumoured) which are big Win7 phones, or will be i think. This should all be very interesting.

MrSuper · 14-08-2010, 20:42

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Originally Posted by RED_

here we go, a bit of speculating that someone has done. The image is a teaser that HTC released for the event and with a bit of photoshopping a fair bit has been found.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...dog/review.jpg.

Interesting picture! Certainly looks like it could be the Desire HD....

RileyM · 16-08-2010, 15:54

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Originally Posted by MrSuper

...The HTC Desire HD on T-Mobile will be renamed as the MyTouchHD and HTC Vision Z will be renamed as the G1Blaze.

Not really keen on T-Mobile getting hands on them and rebranding them.

http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2010/0...ing-september/

I've never understood why (especially US/Canadian) networks rebrand a phone. And some aren't even rebranded as part of a deal of exclusivity.

MrSuper · 16-08-2010, 20:11

Amazon briefly listed the HTC Desire HD on their website today as being due 1st October with the handset retailing for £415. It quickly got taken down! It certainly ties in with HTC's September 15th announcement........make of that what you will!

http://www.eurodroid.com/2010/08/ama...1-launch-date/

On another note Android 3.0 Gingerbread will be released in mid-October according to sources and handsets shipping with Gingerbread will be in November/December. Damn! Would have loved Desire HD to come with 3.0, not to worry i'm sure it can be updated from Froyo 2.2 to 3.0.

bigstunnerdude · 16-08-2010, 21:09

So as someone who's contract is expiring on 12th October with T-Mobile, should I hold fire on the Upgrade? Was looking to get a HTC Desire next month, but if this Desire HD comes out in October can I wangle one out of T Mobile then?

MrSuper · 16-08-2010, 22:10

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Originally Posted by bigstunnerdude

So as someone who's contract is expiring on 12th October with T-Mobile, should I hold fire on the Upgrade? Was looking to get a HTC Desire next month, but if this Desire HD comes out in October can I wangle one out of T Mobile then?

If T-Mobile stock it then i'm sure you can.

lalaland · 17-08-2010, 19:36

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Originally Posted by bigstunnerdude

So as someone who's contract is expiring on 12th October with T-Mobile, should I hold fire on the Upgrade? Was looking to get a HTC Desire next month, but if this Desire HD comes out in October can I wangle one out of T Mobile then?

I would think more November time to be honest as originally suggested, however this is just a guess. Certainly worth waiting regardless.

It's bigger than the Desire and doesn't appear to come with an AMOLED screen, so two minus points, but it will support 4G (which isn't available in the UK yet) and has more storage memory for apps. There's also a forward facing camera, so you can video call to and from it and a camera with more megapixels on the rear.

Weigh up the options and see which you prefer. I think that unless a few more things change, it will be a close call between the Desire and the Desire HD as 4G isn't here in the UK yet and you loose the decent screen and gain more size.... We'll see.

lalaland · 17-08-2010, 19:37

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Originally Posted by MrSuper

I think you could be right. I don't think it said T-Mobile UK, just T-Mobile. That could mean anything!

Having done a bit of Googling, it appears it refers to TMobile USA, not TMobile UK.

MrSuper · 17-08-2010, 19:43

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Originally Posted by lalaland

I would think more November time to be honest as originally suggested, however this is just a guess. Certainly worth waiting regardless.

It's bigger than the Desire and doesn't appear to come with an AMOLED screen, so two minus points, but it will support 4G (which isn't available in the UK yet) and has more storage memory for apps. There's also a forward facing camera, so you can video call to and from it and a camera with more megapixels on the rear.

Weigh up the options and see which you prefer. I think that unless a few more things change, it will be a close call between the Desire and the Desire HD as 4G isn't here in the UK yet and you loose the decent screen and gain more size.... We'll see.

The way i see it. If you already own a Desire, no point getting the Desire HD. However if you don't own the Desire and want to upgrade then i think the Desire HD would be perfect if you're looking for an Android smartphone.

Also the full specs have not been released so right now everything being spouted is just speculation. Sept 15th we'll all find out. I really do hope it comes with an AMOLED screen. The new ones they're replacing them with i've read will not be superior to AMOLED.

lalaland · 17-08-2010, 20:00

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Originally Posted by MrSuper

The way i see it. If you already own a Desire, no point getting the Desire HD. However if you don't own the Desire and want to upgrade then i think the Desire HD would be perfect if you're looking for an Android smartphone.

Again I'd suggest it comes down to which handset appeals most to you. They are both similar in spec, but there are a few subtle details that may swing people either way.

I own a Desire that I bought sim free when it was released, however my upgrade is due in November this year, so I may get another Desire and eBay it, get a Desire HD or wait another 10 minutes for HTC to release the next model up

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSuper

Also the full specs have not been released so right now everything being spouted is just speculation. Sept 15th we'll all find out. I really do hope it comes with an AMOLED screen. The new ones they're replacing them with i've read will not be superior to AMOLED.

Admiteddly I am going off internet rumour, however I'd say the larger size part is going to be more accurate than some other rumours due to the physical object being held on videos and photos. I'd also expect some of the rumours to be true, such as the forward facing camera, the 4G network part etc. but we'll see.

This basically looks like an Evo 4G and Desire cross to me and as the US already has the Evo 4G released it wouldn't be so hard to make a model which accepts a sim card and then sell it in Europe which may explain why such a phone is out so soon and why it's not vastly different to the Desire. This would seem like a realistic view to me, it's a case of making a GSM handset from a CDMA handset and calling it a Desire HD. Not a great deal of work, but a new handset out with a few more features...

RileyM · 17-08-2010, 20:26

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Originally Posted by lalaland

...it will support 4G (which isn't available in the UK yet)...

Will The Ace/Desire HD support 4G though? I know there're suggestions that it's basically a European Evo 4G, but has it been confirmed the "4G" bit has been left in and not just supporting 3G/GSM only?

lalaland · 17-08-2010, 20:37

Who knows, I'm just speculating as I said before..

RileyM · 17-08-2010, 20:38

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Originally Posted by lalaland

Who knows, I'm just speculating as I said before..

Yeah, sorry i saw that part of after I'd posted.

andyf94 · 17-08-2010, 20:39

To me, the HD as rumoured seems to be a very sensible 'facelift' to the Desire. Since the Desire was released both the IP4 and the Galaxy S have come out.

One of the criticisms of the Desire is that it doesn't have the look of a flagship phone, the Galaxy S is selling itself as the 'worlds largest AMOLED screen' phone and the Desire's camera leaves a little to be 'desired'. Assuming they're doing something more to the camera than bumping up the megapixels, then they're addressing these issues.

I really really want one

MrSuper · 17-08-2010, 23:09

Me too!

Believe it or not i'm saving up my pennies to buy one sim-free! My contract isn't up until late next year unfortunately.

12-08-2010, 20:13	#53
whackyracer Guest Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 13,792	Quote: Originally Posted by john_locke Not a huge upgrade is it? All it will really do is to make your desires worth £25 second hand when it comes out. And of course provide HTC an excuse for yet more lag getting the latest version of android on the older phones. My 2 year old iPhone 3G is just about to be sold for £130. Kind of offsets the slightly more expensive iPhone 4 by...well, quite a lot. Surely HTC should be trying to bring their handsets into some kind of feature parity, or are they really going to be like the PCs of the 1990s? Is that all you got for it?! I just sold my iPhone 3G 16gb and got £250 for it! Where did you sell it?

12-08-2010, 18:51	#51
technoflare Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Warrington Posts: 2,458	as long as they are not exclusive! I dont really want to wait for 6 months for the rest of the networks to get them...

12-08-2010, 19:59	#52
moox Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 14,645	The Desire HD doesn't appear to be a truly amazing upgrade from my Desire.

12-08-2010, 20:38	#54
lalaland Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: UK Posts: 11,539	Quote: Originally Posted by MrSuper More news on HTC Desire HD aka HTC Ace and HTC Desire Z aka HTC Vision. Apparently they're coming to T-Mobile in September, on the 22nd and 29th respectively. One released on each date. The HTC Desire HD on T-Mobile will be renamed as the MyTouchHD and HTC Vision Z will be renamed as the G1Blaze. Not really keen on T-Mobile getting hands on them and rebranding them. http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2010/0...ing-september/ That article gives me the impression that it's talking about TMobile USA when I follow the HSPA+ link. Could be wrong, but that's how it read to me.

12-08-2010, 20:45	#55
john_locke Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,367	Quote: Originally Posted by whackyracer Is that all you got for it?! I just sold my iPhone 3G 16gb and got £250 for it! Where did you sell it? dunno, wife did it but after "assessment" we apparently got £150ish each for our 8GB models, which were frankly "well used". that is what turned up in the bank anyway, i think mine may have got more than hers

12-08-2010, 21:52	#56
MrSuper Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Glasgow Posts: 9,323	Quote: Originally Posted by lalaland That article gives me the impression that it's talking about TMobile USA when I follow the HSPA+ link. Could be wrong, but that's how it read to me. I think you could be right. I don't think it said T-Mobile UK, just T-Mobile. That could mean anything!

13-08-2010, 12:31	#57
MrSuper Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Glasgow Posts: 9,323	HTC are holding a press event in London on September 15th and it's very strongly rumoured this is the date the HTC Desire HD/ACE will be launched! Which means there's a very good chance the phone will be released in October. http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-...tember--709741

13-08-2010, 13:02	#58
technoflare Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Warrington Posts: 2,458	hmmm....still need to see if the new phones offer anything more than a new case or a keyboard...a few more MP from the same chip is not going to make it worth it..

13-08-2010, 13:59	#59
andyf94 Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sunny South Coast Posts: 298	Quote: Originally Posted by technoflare hmmm....still need to see if the new phones offer anything more than a new case or a keyboard...a few more MP from the same chip is not going to make it worth it.. it's not the extra megapixels i'm after either...it's the extra millimeters on the screen.

13-08-2010, 17:02	#60
HaraHeeHum Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 612	Can anyone recommend a good, sleek protective cover for the Desire?

13-08-2010, 23:48	#61
RED_ Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: London Posts: 1,284	here we go, a bit of speculating that someone has done. The image is a teaser that HTC released for the event and with a bit of photoshopping a fair bit has been found. http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...dog/review.jpg Cant remember if this is a Win7 phone or not but because Win7 is being released in october in the UK im getting worried that we may not see Android on it after all. There is a good chance im wrong though as they have the HD2 and the HD3 (rumoured) which are big Win7 phones, or will be i think. This should all be very interesting.

14-08-2010, 20:42	#62
MrSuper Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Glasgow Posts: 9,323	Quote: Originally Posted by RED_ here we go, a bit of speculating that someone has done. The image is a teaser that HTC released for the event and with a bit of photoshopping a fair bit has been found. http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...dog/review.jpg. Interesting picture! Certainly looks like it could be the Desire HD....

16-08-2010, 15:54	#63
RileyM Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ely (CB6 - Sandy Heath TX) Posts: 1,623	Quote: Originally Posted by MrSuper ...The HTC Desire HD on T-Mobile will be renamed as the MyTouchHD and HTC Vision Z will be renamed as the G1Blaze. Not really keen on T-Mobile getting hands on them and rebranding them. http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2010/0...ing-september/ I've never understood why (especially US/Canadian) networks rebrand a phone. And some aren't even rebranded as part of a deal of exclusivity.

16-08-2010, 20:11	#64
MrSuper Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Glasgow Posts: 9,323	Amazon briefly listed the HTC Desire HD on their website today as being due 1st October with the handset retailing for £415. It quickly got taken down! It certainly ties in with HTC's September 15th announcement........make of that what you will! http://www.eurodroid.com/2010/08/ama...1-launch-date/ On another note Android 3.0 Gingerbread will be released in mid-October according to sources and handsets shipping with Gingerbread will be in November/December. Damn! Would have loved Desire HD to come with 3.0, not to worry i'm sure it can be updated from Froyo 2.2 to 3.0.

16-08-2010, 21:09	#65
bigstunnerdude Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Grantham, Lincolnshire Posts: 5,353	So as someone who's contract is expiring on 12th October with T-Mobile, should I hold fire on the Upgrade? Was looking to get a HTC Desire next month, but if this Desire HD comes out in October can I wangle one out of T Mobile then?

16-08-2010, 22:10	#66
MrSuper Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Glasgow Posts: 9,323	Quote: Originally Posted by bigstunnerdude So as someone who's contract is expiring on 12th October with T-Mobile, should I hold fire on the Upgrade? Was looking to get a HTC Desire next month, but if this Desire HD comes out in October can I wangle one out of T Mobile then? If T-Mobile stock it then i'm sure you can.

17-08-2010, 19:36	#67
lalaland Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: UK Posts: 11,539	Quote: Originally Posted by bigstunnerdude So as someone who's contract is expiring on 12th October with T-Mobile, should I hold fire on the Upgrade? Was looking to get a HTC Desire next month, but if this Desire HD comes out in October can I wangle one out of T Mobile then? I would think more November time to be honest as originally suggested, however this is just a guess. Certainly worth waiting regardless. It's bigger than the Desire and doesn't appear to come with an AMOLED screen, so two minus points, but it will support 4G (which isn't available in the UK yet) and has more storage memory for apps. There's also a forward facing camera, so you can video call to and from it and a camera with more megapixels on the rear. Weigh up the options and see which you prefer. I think that unless a few more things change, it will be a close call between the Desire and the Desire HD as 4G isn't here in the UK yet and you loose the decent screen and gain more size.... We'll see.

17-08-2010, 19:37	#68
lalaland Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: UK Posts: 11,539	Quote: Originally Posted by MrSuper I think you could be right. I don't think it said T-Mobile UK, just T-Mobile. That could mean anything! Having done a bit of Googling, it appears it refers to TMobile USA, not TMobile UK.

17-08-2010, 19:43	#69
MrSuper Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Glasgow Posts: 9,323	Quote: Originally Posted by lalaland I would think more November time to be honest as originally suggested, however this is just a guess. Certainly worth waiting regardless. It's bigger than the Desire and doesn't appear to come with an AMOLED screen, so two minus points, but it will support 4G (which isn't available in the UK yet) and has more storage memory for apps. There's also a forward facing camera, so you can video call to and from it and a camera with more megapixels on the rear. Weigh up the options and see which you prefer. I think that unless a few more things change, it will be a close call between the Desire and the Desire HD as 4G isn't here in the UK yet and you loose the decent screen and gain more size.... We'll see. The way i see it. If you already own a Desire, no point getting the Desire HD. However if you don't own the Desire and want to upgrade then i think the Desire HD would be perfect if you're looking for an Android smartphone. Also the full specs have not been released so right now everything being spouted is just speculation. Sept 15th we'll all find out. I really do hope it comes with an AMOLED screen. The new ones they're replacing them with i've read will not be superior to AMOLED.

17-08-2010, 20:00	#70
lalaland Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: UK Posts: 11,539	Quote: Originally Posted by MrSuper The way i see it. If you already own a Desire, no point getting the Desire HD. However if you don't own the Desire and want to upgrade then i think the Desire HD would be perfect if you're looking for an Android smartphone. Again I'd suggest it comes down to which handset appeals most to you. They are both similar in spec, but there are a few subtle details that may swing people either way. I own a Desire that I bought sim free when it was released, however my upgrade is due in November this year, so I may get another Desire and eBay it, get a Desire HD or wait another 10 minutes for HTC to release the next model up Quote: Originally Posted by MrSuper Also the full specs have not been released so right now everything being spouted is just speculation. Sept 15th we'll all find out. I really do hope it comes with an AMOLED screen. The new ones they're replacing them with i've read will not be superior to AMOLED. Admiteddly I am going off internet rumour, however I'd say the larger size part is going to be more accurate than some other rumours due to the physical object being held on videos and photos. I'd also expect some of the rumours to be true, such as the forward facing camera, the 4G network part etc. but we'll see. This basically looks like an Evo 4G and Desire cross to me and as the US already has the Evo 4G released it wouldn't be so hard to make a model which accepts a sim card and then sell it in Europe which may explain why such a phone is out so soon and why it's not vastly different to the Desire. This would seem like a realistic view to me, it's a case of making a GSM handset from a CDMA handset and calling it a Desire HD. Not a great deal of work, but a new handset out with a few more features...

17-08-2010, 20:26	#71
RileyM Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ely (CB6 - Sandy Heath TX) Posts: 1,623	Quote: Originally Posted by lalaland ...it will support 4G (which isn't available in the UK yet)... Will The Ace/Desire HD support 4G though? I know there're suggestions that it's basically a European Evo 4G, but has it been confirmed the "4G" bit has been left in and not just supporting 3G/GSM only?

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17-08-2010, 20:37	#72
lalaland Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: UK Posts: 11,539	Who knows, I'm just speculating as I said before..

17-08-2010, 20:38	#73
RileyM Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ely (CB6 - Sandy Heath TX) Posts: 1,623	Quote: Originally Posted by lalaland Who knows, I'm just speculating as I said before.. Yeah, sorry i saw that part of after I'd posted.

17-08-2010, 20:39	#74
andyf94 Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sunny South Coast Posts: 298	To me, the HD as rumoured seems to be a very sensible 'facelift' to the Desire. Since the Desire was released both the IP4 and the Galaxy S have come out. One of the criticisms of the Desire is that it doesn't have the look of a flagship phone, the Galaxy S is selling itself as the 'worlds largest AMOLED screen' phone and the Desire's camera leaves a little to be 'desired'. Assuming they're doing something more to the camera than bumping up the megapixels, then they're addressing these issues. I really really want one

17-08-2010, 23:09	#75
MrSuper Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Glasgow Posts: 9,323	Me too! Believe it or not i'm saving up my pennies to buy one sim-free! My contract isn't up until late next year unfortunately.