HTC Ace (aka HTC Desire HD)

lalaland · 17-08-2010, 23:17

Interesting reading....

http://www.cnet.com/8301-19736_1-20013886-251.html

MrSuper · 18-08-2010, 00:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by lalaland

Interesting reading....

http://www.cnet.com/8301-19736_1-20013886-251.html

Not really. Check out post no. 64 by yours truly!

MrSuper · 18-08-2010, 22:43

Interesting article on the forthcoming Desire HD/Ace.

http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2010/08...e-does-matter/

It has made me think about the screen. Will it be too big? Uncomfortable in my jean pocket? Etc.

GetFrodo · 19-08-2010, 10:11

Stupid post deleted

lalaland · 19-08-2010, 12:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSuper

Interesting article on the forthcoming Desire HD/Ace.

http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2010/08...e-does-matter/

It has made me think about the screen. Will it be too big? Uncomfortable in my jean pocket? Etc.

Exactly, this is one of the things I was talking about. Some people will find this is too big and opt for the Desire instead. I don't think the Desire HD will instantly put the Desire down in one go, I think the two will appeal to slightly different people.

andyf94 · 19-08-2010, 13:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by lalaland

Exactly, this is one of the things I was talking about. Some people will find this is too big and opt for the Desire instead. I don't think the Desire HD will instantly put the Desire down in one go, I think the two will appeal to slightly different people.

There's no doubt there's going to be an 'optimum' size for a smartphone, and my own personal opinion is that it's somewhere near the 4.3 inch.

Let's face it, making calls on a smartphone is not the 'phone's' prime task anymore, it's all of the other stuff you can do that makes people buy them, and on a touch screen most of those things can be accomplished on a slightly bigger screen than most phones currently have.

I've looked at the Galaxy S and it almost tempted me away from the Desire, but the 4.3 inch screen and the Sense UI have got me hanging on for the Desire HD.

A screen that size also starts to blur the territory between smartphone and tablet, I'm just itching to get one

moox · 19-08-2010, 14:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by lalaland

Exactly, this is one of the things I was talking about. Some people will find this is too big and opt for the Desire instead. I don't think the Desire HD will instantly put the Desire down in one go, I think the two will appeal to slightly different people.

It will be interesting to see if the Desire HD will become the new flagship (with any software development effort) going toward it, or will the Desire still be made/sold alongside it.

Hopefully the hardware differences are not great, it might convince HTC to release 2.5 or 3.0 (whatever it will be called) for both if it is easy to do.

RED_ · 19-08-2010, 18:30

People with a HTC Desire will find this upgrade pointless, if you've waited to upgrade to a smartphone then this could be a very good place to start. I think 4" is enough screenwise for a phone. Anything bigger and its a tablet. The Dell streak for example it not a phone in my eyes, its stupidly big. How someone can have that in their pocket i;ll never know.

andyf94 · 19-08-2010, 21:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by RED_

People with a HTC Desire will find this upgrade pointless, if you've waited to upgrade to a smartphone then this could be a very good place to start. I think 4" is enough screenwise for a phone. Anything bigger and its a tablet. The Dell streak for example it not a phone in my eyes, its stupidly big. How someone can have that in their pocket i;ll never know.

But if you look at the supposed pictures of the Desire HD, the front of the phone is totally dominated by the screen, so the overall size of the phone itself isn't that great.

As for finding an upgrade from the Desire to the Desire HD you may well be right, but I suspect the bigger screen and the improved looks will be enough to tempt many

MrSuper · 19-08-2010, 21:45

More leaks!

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/19/b...sire-hd-again/

jim_uk · 19-08-2010, 21:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSuper

More leaks!

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/19/b...sire-hd-again/

Yay....but still not enough to make upgrading from the current Desire worth it.

andyf94 · 19-08-2010, 22:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSuper

More leaks!

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/19/b...sire-hd-again/

I've had enough of the leaks now

....they're just teasing me. I just want someone to let me know what carrier is going to have them, when, and at what price....not asking for much...today preferably

RED_ · 19-08-2010, 22:33

it cant be a lot more than the HTC Desire, at least i hope so.

MrSuper · 20-08-2010, 01:10

Well 415 is what was quoted on Amazon before they took down the page.

alanwarwic · 20-08-2010, 09:42

The optimum size for a phone for 2G is no doubt about 50 grams and about 3" by 2".

Of course for those wanting a multi functional device, 3G, internet etc it depends on personal need and the quantities of sacrifice.

soran · 20-08-2010, 11:10

I have a HTC HD2 running Froyo 2.2, and I love the size of screen. I do like the iphone 4 screen, and would love to see a larger version in a future model(that alone would not tempt me back to Apple though)

Those unsure of a 4.3inch Desire HD should not worry, as I find the form factor just about right, and Froyo 2.2 looks superb on a big screen.

goomba · 20-08-2010, 13:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyf94

I've had enough of the leaks now

....they're just teasing me. I just want someone to let me know what carrier is going to have them, when, and at what price....not asking for much...today preferably

15th Sept is likely to be the announcement date.

MrSuper · 20-08-2010, 23:26

What the HTC Desire Z (QWERTY) aka HTC Vision could possibly look like:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/20/e...2-in-the-wild/

MrSuper · 25-08-2010, 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSuper

More leaks!

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/19/b...sire-hd-again/

Mobiles.co.uk have now removed all the info they had on HTC Ace and HTC Dezire Z from their 'Coming Soon' section. No HTC smartphones at all on that webpage. Hmmmm.

RED_ · 26-08-2010, 01:59

I can just tell the one thing im going to hate about this phone is the buttons at the bottom. They're going to be touch buttons aren't they? Would much prefer physical buttons. Will still probably buy the phone as its coming at just when i need to upgrade my phone.

MrSuper · 09-09-2010, 00:21

HTC Desire HD to be possibly released on 18/19th October. HTC's press conference next Wed will probably announce the Desire HD for certain.

http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2010/09...s-onto-amazon/

MrSuper · 10-09-2010, 12:43

Picture of what the HTC Desire HD will look like.

http://188.65.36.75/2010/09/10/htc-d...c-desire-hd-9/

moox · 10-09-2010, 14:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by lalaland

Exactly, this is one of the things I was talking about. Some people will find this is too big and opt for the Desire instead. I don't think the Desire HD will instantly put the Desire down in one go, I think the two will appeal to slightly different people.

According to http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/09...ver-we-go-gaga, it may be that the Desire isn't going anywhere yet (if HTC really is adding some new colours to the line up)

Chances of an official Android 3.0 update just got higher.

lalaland · 11-09-2010, 12:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSuper

Picture of what the HTC Desire HD will look like.

http://188.65.36.75/2010/09/10/htc-d...c-desire-hd-9/

That's been doctored. It's a well known fake floating around the net by a German site where someone has made the handset look to be a Windows mobile handset. They should be shot for such a crime

lalaland · 11-09-2010, 12:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by moox

According to http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/09...ver-we-go-gaga, it may be that the Desire isn't going anywhere yet (if HTC really is adding some new colours to the line up)

Chances of an official Android 3.0 update just got higher.

As I stated previously, the Desire will be here for a good while yet and I think it will continue to do well too.

However it's worth pointing out that the white HTC Desire won't be coming with the same screen that most of us Desire users currently enjoy.

HTC are having problems sourcing AMOLED screens from Samsung, so the white HTC Desire handsets are coming with SLCD displays. Most people won't notice the difference, but there are a few subtle differences. The SLCD is easier to see in direct sunlight, however colours are slightly better on AMOLED. AMOLED is also slightly brighter and gives a little more of a 'cleaner' appearance.

Personally I'm glad I've got AMOLED on mine, but I'm sure most won't care if they really want a white HTC Desire.

(It's also worth noting that standard HTC Desire handsets are being builty with SLCD on them too due to the shortage in AMOLED screens so new HTC Desire non-white handsets will also have the same non-AMOLED screen unlike the current batch that we all have)

19-08-2010, 22:06	#87
andyf94 Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sunny South Coast Posts: 298	Quote: Originally Posted by MrSuper More leaks! http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/19/b...sire-hd-again/ I've had enough of the leaks now....they're just teasing me. I just want someone to let me know what carrier is going to have them, when, and at what price....not asking for much...today preferably

20-08-2010, 13:58	#92
goomba Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 5,444	Quote: Originally Posted by andyf94 I've had enough of the leaks now....they're just teasing me. I just want someone to let me know what carrier is going to have them, when, and at what price....not asking for much...today preferably 15th Sept is likely to be the announcement date.

17-08-2010, 23:17	#76
lalaland Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: UK Posts: 11,539	Interesting reading.... http://www.cnet.com/8301-19736_1-20013886-251.html

18-08-2010, 00:01	#77
MrSuper Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Glasgow Posts: 9,323	Quote: Originally Posted by lalaland Interesting reading.... http://www.cnet.com/8301-19736_1-20013886-251.html Not really. Check out post no. 64 by yours truly!

18-08-2010, 22:43	#78
MrSuper Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Glasgow Posts: 9,323	Interesting article on the forthcoming Desire HD/Ace. http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2010/08...e-does-matter/ It has made me think about the screen. Will it be too big? Uncomfortable in my jean pocket? Etc.

19-08-2010, 10:11	#79
GetFrodo Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,745	Stupid post deleted

19-08-2010, 12:52	#80
lalaland Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: UK Posts: 11,539	Quote: Originally Posted by MrSuper Interesting article on the forthcoming Desire HD/Ace. http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2010/08...e-does-matter/ It has made me think about the screen. Will it be too big? Uncomfortable in my jean pocket? Etc. Exactly, this is one of the things I was talking about. Some people will find this is too big and opt for the Desire instead. I don't think the Desire HD will instantly put the Desire down in one go, I think the two will appeal to slightly different people.

19-08-2010, 13:42	#81
andyf94 Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sunny South Coast Posts: 298	Quote: Originally Posted by lalaland Exactly, this is one of the things I was talking about. Some people will find this is too big and opt for the Desire instead. I don't think the Desire HD will instantly put the Desire down in one go, I think the two will appeal to slightly different people. There's no doubt there's going to be an 'optimum' size for a smartphone, and my own personal opinion is that it's somewhere near the 4.3 inch. Let's face it, making calls on a smartphone is not the 'phone's' prime task anymore, it's all of the other stuff you can do that makes people buy them, and on a touch screen most of those things can be accomplished on a slightly bigger screen than most phones currently have. I've looked at the Galaxy S and it almost tempted me away from the Desire, but the 4.3 inch screen and the Sense UI have got me hanging on for the Desire HD. A screen that size also starts to blur the territory between smartphone and tablet, I'm just itching to get one

19-08-2010, 14:49	#82
moox Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 14,645	Quote: Originally Posted by lalaland Exactly, this is one of the things I was talking about. Some people will find this is too big and opt for the Desire instead. I don't think the Desire HD will instantly put the Desire down in one go, I think the two will appeal to slightly different people. It will be interesting to see if the Desire HD will become the new flagship (with any software development effort) going toward it, or will the Desire still be made/sold alongside it. Hopefully the hardware differences are not great, it might convince HTC to release 2.5 or 3.0 (whatever it will be called) for both if it is easy to do.

19-08-2010, 18:30	#83
RED_ Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: London Posts: 1,284	People with a HTC Desire will find this upgrade pointless, if you've waited to upgrade to a smartphone then this could be a very good place to start. I think 4" is enough screenwise for a phone. Anything bigger and its a tablet. The Dell streak for example it not a phone in my eyes, its stupidly big. How someone can have that in their pocket i;ll never know.

19-08-2010, 21:19	#84
andyf94 Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sunny South Coast Posts: 298	Quote: Originally Posted by RED_ People with a HTC Desire will find this upgrade pointless, if you've waited to upgrade to a smartphone then this could be a very good place to start. I think 4" is enough screenwise for a phone. Anything bigger and its a tablet. The Dell streak for example it not a phone in my eyes, its stupidly big. How someone can have that in their pocket i;ll never know. But if you look at the supposed pictures of the Desire HD, the front of the phone is totally dominated by the screen, so the overall size of the phone itself isn't that great. As for finding an upgrade from the Desire to the Desire HD you may well be right, but I suspect the bigger screen and the improved looks will be enough to tempt many

19-08-2010, 21:45	#85
MrSuper Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Glasgow Posts: 9,323	More leaks! http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/19/b...sire-hd-again/

19-08-2010, 21:53	#86
jim_uk Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Watford Posts: 12,961	Quote: Originally Posted by MrSuper More leaks! http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/19/b...sire-hd-again/ Yay....but still not enough to make upgrading from the current Desire worth it.

19-08-2010, 22:33	#88
RED_ Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: London Posts: 1,284	it cant be a lot more than the HTC Desire, at least i hope so.

20-08-2010, 01:10	#89
MrSuper Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Glasgow Posts: 9,323	Well 415 is what was quoted on Amazon before they took down the page.

20-08-2010, 09:42	#90
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	The optimum size for a phone for 2G is no doubt about 50 grams and about 3" by 2". Of course for those wanting a multi functional device, 3G, internet etc it depends on personal need and the quantities of sacrifice.

20-08-2010, 11:10	#91
soran Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,610	I have a HTC HD2 running Froyo 2.2, and I love the size of screen. I do like the iphone 4 screen, and would love to see a larger version in a future model(that alone would not tempt me back to Apple though) Those unsure of a 4.3inch Desire HD should not worry, as I find the form factor just about right, and Froyo 2.2 looks superb on a big screen.

20-08-2010, 23:26	#93
MrSuper Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Glasgow Posts: 9,323	What the HTC Desire Z (QWERTY) aka HTC Vision could possibly look like: http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/20/e...2-in-the-wild/

25-08-2010, 13:33	#94
MrSuper Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Glasgow Posts: 9,323	Quote: Originally Posted by MrSuper More leaks! http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/19/b...sire-hd-again/ Mobiles.co.uk have now removed all the info they had on HTC Ace and HTC Dezire Z from their 'Coming Soon' section. No HTC smartphones at all on that webpage. Hmmmm.

26-08-2010, 01:59	#95
RED_ Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: London Posts: 1,284	I can just tell the one thing im going to hate about this phone is the buttons at the bottom. They're going to be touch buttons aren't they? Would much prefer physical buttons. Will still probably buy the phone as its coming at just when i need to upgrade my phone.

09-09-2010, 00:21	#96
MrSuper Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Glasgow Posts: 9,323	HTC Desire HD to be possibly released on 18/19th October. HTC's press conference next Wed will probably announce the Desire HD for certain. http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2010/09...s-onto-amazon/

10-09-2010, 12:43	#97
MrSuper Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Glasgow Posts: 9,323	Picture of what the HTC Desire HD will look like. http://188.65.36.75/2010/09/10/htc-d...c-desire-hd-9/

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HTC Ace (aka HTC Desire HD)

10-09-2010, 14:51	#98
moox Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 14,645	Quote: Originally Posted by lalaland Exactly, this is one of the things I was talking about. Some people will find this is too big and opt for the Desire instead. I don't think the Desire HD will instantly put the Desire down in one go, I think the two will appeal to slightly different people. According to http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/09...ver-we-go-gaga, it may be that the Desire isn't going anywhere yet (if HTC really is adding some new colours to the line up) Chances of an official Android 3.0 update just got higher.

11-09-2010, 12:42	#99
lalaland Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: UK Posts: 11,539	Quote: Originally Posted by MrSuper Picture of what the HTC Desire HD will look like. http://188.65.36.75/2010/09/10/htc-d...c-desire-hd-9/ That's been doctored. It's a well known fake floating around the net by a German site where someone has made the handset look to be a Windows mobile handset. They should be shot for such a crime

11-09-2010, 12:51	#100
lalaland Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: UK Posts: 11,539	Quote: Originally Posted by moox According to http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/09...ver-we-go-gaga, it may be that the Desire isn't going anywhere yet (if HTC really is adding some new colours to the line up) Chances of an official Android 3.0 update just got higher. As I stated previously, the Desire will be here for a good while yet and I think it will continue to do well too. However it's worth pointing out that the white HTC Desire won't be coming with the same screen that most of us Desire users currently enjoy. HTC are having problems sourcing AMOLED screens from Samsung, so the white HTC Desire handsets are coming with SLCD displays. Most people won't notice the difference, but there are a few subtle differences. The SLCD is easier to see in direct sunlight, however colours are slightly better on AMOLED. AMOLED is also slightly brighter and gives a little more of a 'cleaner' appearance. Personally I'm glad I've got AMOLED on mine, but I'm sure most won't care if they really want a white HTC Desire. (It's also worth noting that standard HTC Desire handsets are being builty with SLCD on them too due to the shortage in AMOLED screens so new HTC Desire non-white handsets will also have the same non-AMOLED screen unlike the current batch that we all have)