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I have never credited blueray to Baird
![]() mechanical TV systems like VHS and Blueray are direct desendents of the worlds first video recording system which was invented by Baird phonovision which had video recorded on a LP record played back via a stylus Blueray is modern version instead of a stylus it a lazer pickup instead of 30 lines we now have 1080 lines mechanical TV systems still exist 80 years after Baird DLP projectors use a modern version of the Baird sequential colour system using a filter wheel babage invented the computer and Baird invented the television period ![]() |
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The above statement has just confirmed my worst fears, I'm trapped in a parallel universe.
Does anyone know of a way back? |
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Seeing as the OP has long since spat her dummy out over all the sensible advice which she was given f.o.c. and completely ignored, can we wind this thread up now, please? It's beginning to bore the hell out of me...
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I have never credited blueray to Baird
![]() mechanical TV systems like VHS and Blueray are direct desendents of the worlds first video recording system which was invented by Baird phonovision which had video recorded on a LP record played back via a stylus Blueray is modern version instead of a stylus it a lazer pickup instead of 30 lines we now have 1080 lines mechanical TV systems still exist 80 years after Baird DLP projectors use a modern version of the Baird sequential colour system using a filter wheel babage invented the computer and Baird invented the television period ![]() Baird did not invent television, no matter how many times you say it. There were many others who had built working devices before Baird came along. The only credit that can be attributed to Baird in this respect is that he was the first to make a device that could televise live scenes and which produced images with varying shades of grey. That's it - nothing more. You'll be saying next that Bell invented the telephone, which he didn't. That was invented by Antonio Meucci, 20 years before Bell thought of it. |
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Seeing as the OP has long since spat her dummy out over all the sensible advice which she was given f.o.c. and completely ignored, can we wind this thread up now, please? It's beginning to bore the hell out of me...
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Yes I think I'll take your advice, the TV I was talking about was £450 or something cash, if you paid monthly it came to around £750.
Looks like no TV for me.
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I can certainly remember Thorn hybrid colour sets, and they WERE unrelaible! Possible more from very bad quality control rather than circuit design .....
...... as far as I know, the 1st company with entirely solid state colour was Grundig. Thorn B&W were dire. My family had one of the last chassis produced (I forget which one). The potentiometer tuning was highly unstable, and the i.f. was mistuned (there was always vision and sound mixing) ........ I think it's fair to say the Analytical Engine was the 1st computer, in essence. With recording systems, analogue and digital are "chalk and cheese". There's certainly no "direct line" from Baird's phonograph tv recordings to blu-ray. |
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Maybe If you took a look for yourself you may have a different opinion of this tv, you don't see anyone on here asking for help with one,you only here the problems , from samsung, LG sony, and its not because no one buys them, if that was the case you would not have the Baird badge out there, someone on here says they maybe philips panels that they use.
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Philips is now possibly funai.
www.funai.us/topics/2008/080409.html In Europe, Philips TVs are..Philips. In Europe, it is JVC TVs which are made by Funai. Per: www.funaiworld.com/pressroom/2008/080131.html "ii) Production of products for Europe contracted to Funai Electric by JVC ・JVC will entrust the production of LCD televisions to Funai Electric ’s European factory in Poland, which will begin by the first half of 2008. 2) Joint development and mutually contracted development (i) Development of LCD televisions contracted to JVC by Funai Electric ・Funai Electric will entrust the development of LCD televisions to be sold primarily in Europe to JVC by June 2008. (ii) Joint development of LCD televisions for JVC ・The two companies will jointly develop LCD televisions to be sold by JVC primarily in Europe and Americas, and Funai Electric will launch the production of these by the second half of 2008." |
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Only in the US and Canada
www.funai.us/topics/2008/080409.html In Europe, Philips TVs are..Philips. In Europe, it is JVC TVs which are made by Funai. Per: www.funaiworld.com/pressroom/2008/080131.html "ii) Production of products for Europe contracted to Funai Electric by JVC ・JVC will entrust the production of LCD televisions to Funai Electric ’s European factory in Poland, which will begin by the first half of 2008. 2) Joint development and mutually contracted development (i) Development of LCD televisions contracted to JVC by Funai Electric ・Funai Electric will entrust the development of LCD televisions to be sold primarily in Europe to JVC by June 2008. (ii) Joint development of LCD televisions for JVC ・The two companies will jointly develop LCD televisions to be sold by JVC primarily in Europe and Americas, and Funai Electric will launch the production of these by the second half of 2008." |
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I can certainly remember Thorn hybrid colour sets, and they WERE unrelaible! Possible more from very bad quality control rather than circuit design .....
I can only imagine you're thinking of an entirely different manufacturer?, and not Thorn at all - which would explain your confusion. We were a major Grundig dealer, and Grundig went all solid state years after Ferguson, and quite a while after most other UK manufacturers as well. |
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Maybe I am. I don't know.
I can remember a Grundig Supercolour, my family's 1st colour tv, in 1975. It was solid state, and the design would date from 1973, maybe earlier. I certainly remember that Grundiig said these were the 1st all solid state sets produced ....... I can remember all transistor Thorn and Ferguson B&W sets from the same period ('72) but not colour. Maybe that's wrong. |
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Maybe I am. I don't know.
I can remember a Grundig Supercolour, my family's 1st colour tv, in 1975. It was solid state, and the design would date from 1973, maybe earlier. I certainly remember that Grundiig said these were the 1st all solid state sets produced ....... I can remember all transistor Thorn and Ferguson B&W sets from the same period ('72) but not colour. Maybe that's wrong. I'm struggling finding a date for the 2000 on google?, but presumably it was 1967 or so?. If I remember correctly, the single-standard 3000 was launched in 1969? - which was the worlds first domestic use of a SMPSU . You also spelt 'SuperColor' wrongly - there's no 'U' in it, it always annoyed me
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ok ok ...... I also did the same, and yes, there's no acutal date given. However, I'm certain about the Grundig claim, so it must have been wrong. It was "1st in world" (not Germany!).
Was the 1st USA (Zenith) solid state colour 1968? I thought that was world's 1st? |
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ok ok ...... I also did the same, and yes, there's no acutal date given. However, I'm certain about the Grundig claim, so it must have been wrong. It was "1st in world" (not Germany!).
Was the 1st USA (Zenith) solid state colour 1968? I thought that was world's 1st? |
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A quick delve into the archive produced an article about the Thorn 2000 chassis in the July 1967 Practical Television.
Thorn/BRC claimed that it would "put Britain ahead of any other country in the world in TV receiver design." The chassis used 90 silicon transistors and a 25" CRT. Initially 3 models were announced from Ferguson, HMV and Ultra. The Ultra was 295 gns., the other 2 were 330 gns. (presumably better cabinets). A Marconiphone version was planned too. |
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I dunno! Having checked, there was an RCA NTSC set on sale in 1968 ....... when did the Thorn hit the shops?
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I dunno! Having checked, there was an RCA NTSC set on sale in 1968 ....... when did the Thorn hit the shops?
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The OP asked the question wether or not Baird TV's are any good, of the 90+ posts over 4 pages there has been allmost no answers and the thead has mutated in to who invent TV type debate. Baired TV's are Just a badge company for rebranded goods made either Turkey or China along the same lines as Bush, Goodmans,alba in other words best avoided.
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The OP asked the question wether or not Baird TV's are any good, of the 90+ posts over 4 pages there has been allmost no answers and the thead has mutated in to who invent TV type debate. Baired TV's are Just a badge company for rebranded goods made either Turkey or China along the same lines as Bush, Goodmans,alba in other words best avoided.
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Yeah, sorry! I THINK "Baird Brand" is currently owned by a Chinese company. Not sure.
I DON'T think Vestel tvs go under that name in UK. Not sure. (added) one post on AV FOrums claim "Baird" tvs are made by ...... Samsung ! I have no idea if that's correct, but it sounds very unlikely! http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-l...em-before.html |
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You also spelt 'SuperColor' wrongly - there's no 'U' in it, it always annoyed me
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Throns first colour set was the 2000 series, the worlds first all transistor colour TV.
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Throns first colour set was the 2000 series, the worlds first all transistor colour TV.
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Wouldn't that be a water valve, for cooling the line output trannies?
Doesn't count! |
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I can remember a Grundig Supercolour, my family's 1st colour tv, in 1975. It was solid state, and the design would date from 1973, maybe earlier. I certainly remember that Grundiig said these were the 1st all solid state sets produced .......
I still have it's little brother, a 14" Super Color from about the same era in use in a bedroom. Again working perfectly. I wonder how many present day LCD or Plasma sets will last that long? |
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