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Old 21-07-2010, 12:52
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Watching BBC breakfast news this morning and they were talking with an app developer who make over £6000 a month, I'm just wondering how you get the training to do this? Where do u start?
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Old 21-07-2010, 12:58
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wow someone got pound signs in their eyes or what!?

maybe start with a computing degree to learn programming skills?
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Old 21-07-2010, 13:14
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It also helps if you come up with an original idea that people are prepared to pay for, sadly there is no training available for this.
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Old 21-07-2010, 15:03
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Watching BBC breakfast news this morning and they were talking with an app developer who make over £6000 a month, I'm just wondering how you get the training to do this? Where do u start?

You will need a mac running snow leopard, then download a free app from apple called xcode, which contains all the tools you need to develop Mac, iphone and ipad applications. Register on apples dev center site for various sample applications and tutorials. There are tons of tutorials on youtube as well.

You will need to learn a programming language called objective c and also the the cocoa touch api. For games programming there are some nice libraries such as cocos2d which are also worth learning.

Good books are Objective C 2 by Kochan link and Beginning iPhone 3 Development link

If you want to publish the app you develop you need to pay for a development certificate from apple ( about £59/year ) you will need this if you want to run the app on an actual device, rather than the simulator.

Programming the iPad is more or less identical except for the different screen resolution
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Old 21-07-2010, 15:12
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Thanks for that valued comment
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Old 21-07-2010, 15:14
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Simple idea's work best.

Something incredibly simple that gets people talking + incredibly well priced = money.
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Old 22-07-2010, 21:44
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so you cannot develop apps using a windows operating system?
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Old 22-07-2010, 21:47
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wow someone got pound signs in their eyes or what!?

maybe start with a computing degree to learn programming skills?
You don't need a computing degree to program... Also there actually isn't alot of programming in it, mostly analysis and design in my experience.

I say buy yourself a book on objective C but more importantly have a good idea. The programming is the easy bit.
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Old 22-07-2010, 21:54
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yes i am starting to study the objective c programme just looking at the apple site at http://developer.apple.com/programs/which-program/

am i right in saying i need to pay the 99 dollars individual program developer to produce apps, it does say in the pararaph This program is for an individual developer who will be creating free and commercial applications, does that mean i cannot sell?
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Old 22-07-2010, 22:24
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It also helps if you come up with an original idea that people are prepared to pay for, sadly there is no training available for this.
Absolutely. I've written a few iPhone apps for myself, but that doesn't mean you're onto a fortune! Original popular idea is everything

yes i am starting to study the objective c programme just looking at the apple site at http://developer.apple.com/programs/which-program/

am i right in saying i need to pay the 99 dollars individual program developer to produce apps, it does say in the pararaph This program is for an individual developer who will be creating free and commercial applications, does that mean i cannot sell?
For free you can download XCode and the iPhone SDK, code applications and run on a simulator on a Mac. With the individual program you can run your app on an actual iPhone (/iPod Touch/iPad) and submit to the App Store to distribute free or for a fee (where you get 70% of the revenue from any sales).
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Old 23-07-2010, 11:03
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so you cannot develop apps using a windows operating system?
Correct, you will need to use a Mac.
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Old 23-07-2010, 12:59
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So just to run through things as from 1 to 10 what do I need to get programming and costs involved?
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Old 23-07-2010, 13:09
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so you cannot develop apps using a windows operating system?
Nope in the same way you can't develop Windows Mobile Apps on a Mac
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Old 23-07-2010, 13:13
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So just to run through things as from 1 to 10 what do I need to get programming and costs involved?
If you have no programming experience, I'd probably say stop right now.

The reason I say this is that Objective C is quite a complicated language compared to others, such as PHP.

It's very simple to knock up, say a flashlight app, but to do these things properly requires an in depth knowledge of memory managing, alloc'ing, dealloc'ing.

If you are serious about it, then you really need to start with some books and tutorials as jumping straight in you'll just end up as another developer creating more usless apps that get no exposure.

Do it properly and you might get lucky and develop an app that makes a fortune (but they are far and few between).

Also you'll need to allocate quite a bit of time, in depth apps take quite a time to develop, test and check for things like memory leaks, designing user interfaces, etc.
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Old 23-07-2010, 13:48
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books is what i am doing don't worry i will not be jumping in.
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