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Old 21-07-2010, 13:09
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i think the x-factor should now change their status "that Leona is the biggest thing to come out of x-factor", as i'm sure that now surely it's JLS and Alexandra. They are both working on their second album already, have really popular up beat 'current' sound, and everybody loves them,
whilst Leona, was good to begin with needs to release more catchy singles.. alex and jls are doing so much better than leona..

what are your views??
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Old 21-07-2010, 13:22
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Oh this is gonna a bit heated regarding Leona's second album. We have had loads debates on stuff like this.
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Old 21-07-2010, 13:32
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Without getting into it or being rude, Leona is boring and so is her music. And beyond album number 1, there was no way on Earth she was going to be able to live up to the expectations people had of her becuase they hung on to Simon Cowell's every word. She is not the next Whitney, She's not the next Mariah, she's just another in a very long line of slightly above average singers. While we may lack in big voiced singers over here, in America there's no shortage of wailing, multi-octave squeelers, many of whom are much much better than Leona.

She was hyped up as some Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston second coming, turned out she wasn't even the second coming for Alicia Keys.
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Old 21-07-2010, 13:46
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she has a personality, but her affect is low
after nearly four years in the business she should have learnt when to turn it on at least

her voice is phenominal, but in today's business its NO WHERE ENOUGH to make you a star

even after a 'sucessful tour' her album is still out of the Top 100. Even that Facebook petition couldnt get OMH in the Top 100. And this was suppose to be a World tour but she's only done 20 show in UK

Alexander is doing good but not great. JUST good. The Sure Women advert was a coup as Leona as still to be signed by any brand.

JLS are doing amazing considering they are still UK based
thier success in selling over a 1M album and still in the Top 50 after nine months is not to be sniffed at. Can they keep it up? Well time will tell.

Like everyone says her thrid album has a lot riding on it.
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Old 21-07-2010, 14:53
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Oh this is gonna a bit heated regarding Leona's second album. We have had loads debates on stuff like this.
I cannot for the life of me understand why Scene of the Crime wasn't on Leona's second album. I've made friends who don't like Leona listen to that song and they loved it. If she had released that as her first single from the second album we wouldn't be having this discussion. Happy, as a first single, was a hit with hard cord fans but alienated casual fans as they thought "same old, same old". It'll be interesting to see how album number three goes.
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Old 21-07-2010, 15:00
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Technically, she's got all the tools necessary for the task at hand. Unfortunately, she still doesn't have a personality people can talk at length about, and with the exception of maybe 3 songs, she's had some pretty woeful tracks penned for her.
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Old 21-07-2010, 15:02
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i think the x-factor should now change their status "that Leona is the biggest thing to come out of x-factor", as i'm sure that now surely it's JLS and Alexandra. They are both working on their second album already, have really popular up beat 'current' sound, and everybody loves them,
whilst Leona, was good to begin with needs to release more catchy singles.. alex and jls are doing so much better than leona..

what are your views??
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Old 21-07-2010, 15:12
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haha i totally agree.
you may personally think that her music is boring or not current but she has had two "mega hits" in the form of bleeding love and run - none of jls' or alexandra's singles have matched the sales figures of these two songs and their debuts havent touched on hers sales-wise. jls failed to crack america with "everybody in love" whereas leona succeeded with bleeding love. therefore leona lewis is a global superstar - they are not, which in itself seals her as the biggest thing to come out of factor surely?

the echo era may be fizzling out abit but who's to say jls will have such a great selling second album? - oh no wait of course they will as long as there are impressionable young girls to buy their shit.

seriously is there anybody with a kind word to say about the club is alive?

i don't know what the future holds for any of these acts but what leona acheived is incredible and jls and alexandra (who i do like) have not matched this.
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Old 21-07-2010, 15:16
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haha i totally agree.
you may personally think that her music is boring or not current but she has had two "mega hits" in the form of bleeding love and run - none of jls' or alexandra's singles have matched the sales figures of these two songs and their debuts havent touched on hers sales-wise. jls failed to crack america with "everybody in love" whereas leona succeeded with bleeding love. therefore leona lewis is a global superstar - they are not, which in itself seals her as the biggest thing to come out of factor surely?

the echo era may be fizzling out abit but who's to say jls will have such a great selling second album? - oh no wait of course they will as long as there are impressionable young girls to buy their shit.

seriously is there anybody with a kind word to say about the club is alive?

i don't know what the future holds for any of these acts but what leona acheived is incredible and jls and alexandra (who i do like) have not matched this.

Well actually bad boys has sold as much as run did. But anyway, I dont see why this has to be a contest, they have all done well in their own right.
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Old 21-07-2010, 15:21
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Without getting into it or being rude, Leona is boring and so is her music. And beyond album number 1, there was no way on Earth she was going to be able to live up to the expectations people had of her becuase they hung on to Simon Cowell's every word. She is not the next Whitney, She's not the next Mariah, she's just another in a very long line of slightly above average singers. While we may lack in big voiced singers over here, in America there's no shortage of wailing, multi-octave squeelers, many of whom are much much better than Leona.

She was hyped up as some Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston second coming, turned out she wasn't even the second coming for Alicia Keys.
A bit harsh, but there is some truth in this. Leona is talented but I do agree that I think Simon and others put unreasonable and unrealistic expectations on Leona's shoulders. For any other artist with a similar background to Leona, the Echo era would be regarded as a success, but because off the unreasonable expectations that were placed on Leona and her intial success in the spirit era, unfortunatley people will just write the era off as a flop which it is not. I think what will happen with the next album is the Leona will find her true place in the industry and people will leave her alone and let her get on with things.
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Old 21-07-2010, 15:29
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she has a personality, but her affect is low
after nearly four years in the business she should have learnt when to turn it on at least

her voice is phenominal, but in today's business its NO WHERE ENOUGH to make you a star

even after a 'sucessful tour' her album is still out of the Top 100. Even that Facebook petition couldnt get OMH in the Top 100. And this was suppose to be a World tour but she's only done 20 show in UK

Alexandra is doing good but not great. JUST good. The Sure Women advert was a coup as Leona as still to be signed by any brand.

JLS are doing amazing considering they are still UK based

thier success in selling over a 1M album and still in the Top 50 after nine months is not to be sniffed at. Can they keep it up? Well time will tell.

Like everyone says her thrid album has a lot riding on it.
Funny you should say that, Alexandra is doing just as well as JLS, in fact her total sales are bigger than theirs. They may have sold 1Million copies of their album, but Alexandra owns them in terms of single sales, even after 4 singles and the album being out for nearly a year she's still managed to sell more than JLS and stay in the top 10 with all her singles.
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Old 21-07-2010, 15:48
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Oh lord!!!!!...............:yawn:


On second thoughts.. *popcorn* this should be good.
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Old 21-07-2010, 15:49
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You cant compare JLS and Alex to Leona whilst they're still on the 1st album. Leonas 1st was mega successful like JLS and Ale but her 2nd wasn't despte the star power. We have no idea how the other twos 2nd album will perform. JLS have shown with TCIA that they have a fanbase who buys 1st week but they're not really attractig any new or casual buyers.
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Old 21-07-2010, 16:13
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i think the x-factor should now change their status "that Leona is the biggest thing to come out of x-factor", as i'm sure that now surely it's JLS and Alexandra. They are both working on their second album already, have really popular up beat 'current' sound, and everybody loves them,
whilst Leona, was good to begin with needs to release more catchy singles.. alex and jls are doing so much better than leona..

what are your views??
They may be doing better then Leona now but she will always be Simon's no 1 Girl and will make the most money for him, JLS aint even cracked America yet something Leon has done and Alex is doing. Leona may not have that Big personality everyone wants her to have but as long as she is doing her thing she will be fine, She will be around longer then the other two.
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Old 21-07-2010, 16:34
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haha i totally agree.
you may personally think that her music is boring or not current but she has had two "mega hits" in the form of bleeding love and run - none of jls' or alexandra's singles have matched the sales figures of these two songs and their debuts havent touched on hers sales-wise. jls failed to crack america with "everybody in love" whereas leona succeeded with bleeding love. therefore leona lewis is a global superstar - they are not, which in itself seals her as the biggest thing to come out of factor surely?

the echo era may be fizzling out abit but who's to say jls will have such a great selling second album? - oh no wait of course they will as long as there are impressionable young girls to buy their shit.

seriously is there anybody with a kind word to say about the club is alive?

i don't know what the future holds for any of these acts but what leona acheived is incredible and jls and alexandra (who i do like) have not matched this.
Great post mushroom3 - couldn't have said it better myself. I would also like to mention singing the closing song for the biggest grossing movie Avatar, My Hands selected for European Final Fantasy Game and also Leona has endorsed Cotton Commercial in America.

It is down to personal opinion whether you like a particular act or not, but there is no excuse to distort facts. Also personality is down to personal taste as well.

I really don't know why we need these type of threads, I am proud of all 3 acts, whilst I particularly support both Leona and Alexandra but still wish JLS continued success.
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Old 21-07-2010, 16:35
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alexanda burke best thing to come out of x factor imo
proper performer
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Old 21-07-2010, 16:36
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Leon didn't break america and Alex hasn't touched America yet altho ANL is getting spins
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Old 21-07-2010, 16:37
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yes because she isn't debutting in america until september but ye all night long has been recieving some airplay from requests
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Old 21-07-2010, 16:45
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alexanda burke best thing to come out of x factor imo
proper performer
Leona is better and she is her own person. As good as Alex is she dont need to be turning into Beyonce, its a bit Cheesy to watch.
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Old 21-07-2010, 16:47
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lmao own person? she doesn't have a PERSONALITY.... anyway not gonna turn this into a leona vs alex thread but personally i prefer alex and jls over leona.
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Old 21-07-2010, 16:48
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Leona is better and she is her own person. As good as Alex is she dont need to be turning into Beyonce, its a bit Cheesy to watch.
Well none of the x-factor winners/acts are original including Leona. But I don't mind.
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Old 21-07-2010, 16:48
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A bit harsh, but there is some truth in this. Leona is talented but I do agree that I think Simon and others put unreasonable and unrealistic expectations on Leona's shoulders. For any other artist with a similar background to Leona, the Echo era would be regarded as a success, but because off the unreasonable expectations that were placed on Leona and her intial success in the spirit era, unfortunatley people will just write the era off as a flop which it is not. I think what will happen with the next album is the Leona will find her true place in the industry and people will leave her alone and let her get on with things.
Well that's it, the kind of music I listen to has no bearing on the charts so sales/charts performance doesn't bother me at all. I wouldn't call Echo a flop my any stretch of the imagination, I'd love for some of my favourite artists to hit those figures but the fact is the hype machine behind her wanted us to believe she was the best thing we've seen for 10+ years when, imo, she's not even close.

What I think happened is lots of people bought into this hype the first time around but after the dirge of disappointing songs that was on Spirit, they didn't bother going back for second dibs, only the fan-base she had established through X-Factor did. This probably explains her performance in the US too, without the established X-Factor fanbase, all anyone had to go on was a load of Simon Cowell hype and a half decent ballad. After going out to get the album, I reckon many people weren't impressed enough to get the second album. I think (especially over-seas) people fell for Bleeding Love "the catchy song" and not Leona "the best vocalist for 15 years".
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Old 21-07-2010, 16:50
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lmao own person? she doesn't have a PERSONALITY.... anyway not gonna turn this into a leona vs alex thread but personally i prefer alex and jls over leona.
Thats what i mean Leona dont need to have a personality to look good she still does anyway, Where Alex seems to be copying everything beyonce does like having an alter egoon stage maybe she feels she needs to, to be liked. i like alex but think she is better then that, but feel Leona will be around longer then her because people prefer her.
JLS will be big aslong as they have their fans but can see people getting bored of them soon once take that become big again.
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Old 21-07-2010, 16:53
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Well that's it, the kind of music I listen to has no bearing on the charts so sales/charts performance doesn't bother me at all. I wouldn't call Echo a flop my any stretch of the imagination, I'd love for some of my favourite artists to hit those figures but the fact is the hype machine behind her wanted us to believe she was the best thing we've seen for 10+ years when, imo, she's not even close.

What I think happened is lots of people bought into this hype the first time around but after the dirge of disappointing songs that was on Spirit, they didn't bother going back for second dibs, only the fan-base she had established through X-Factor did. This probably explains her performance in the US too, without the established X-Factor fanbase, all anyone had to go on was a load of Simon Cowell hype and a half decent ballad. After going out to get the album, I reckon many people weren't impressed enough to get the second album. I think (especially over-seas) people fell for Bleeding Love "the catchy song" and not Leona "the best vocalist for 15 years".
She was even touted as the best vocalist of all time by some. But I do agree I think there was a lot of over-hyping and I think this has actually damaged Leona because she could never live up to it (not her fault). I dunno if she has better songs she might be able to re-capture the imagination of America. But I do think it was the song that helped her, I don't think the industry are into ballads or big voices right now. It's almost like she was born in the wrong era. I do wonder how she would have fared in the 90's when ballads were all the rage,
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Old 21-07-2010, 17:17
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haha i totally agree.
you may personally think that her music is boring or not current but she has had two "mega hits" in the form of bleeding love and run - none of jls' or alexandra's singles have matched the sales figures of these two songs and their debuts havent touched on hers sales-wise. jls failed to crack america with "everybody in love" whereas leona succeeded with bleeding love. therefore leona lewis is a global superstar - they are not, which in itself seals her as the biggest thing to come out of factor surely?

the echo era may be fizzling out abit but who's to say jls will have such a great selling second album? - oh no wait of course they will as long as there are impressionable young girls to buy their shit.

seriously is there anybody with a kind word to say about the club is alive?

i don't know what the future holds for any of these acts but what leona acheived is incredible and jls and alexandra (who i do like) have not matched this.
Uh huh, in case you didn't realise, Alexandra sold over 1Million copies of her debut single, more than Bleeding Love, and got her the title of biggest selling female solo artist in Europe. Leona never really cracked the states, her other singles have sold badly over there and Echo charted @ #50.
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