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Old 22-07-2010, 15:38
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Anyone else looking forward to this?

Sherlock

starts on Sunday, 25th July on BBC1 at 9.00pm.

A 21st century take on the Sherlock Holmes stories - which includes the use of lots of texting/tweeting, GPS and the like.

The Radio Times: "Holmes and Watson transposed to modern London might sound like sacrilege but fear not, it's a clever, edgy thriller that breathes new life into the legend, and not to be missed."

Stars (the lovely) Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman, as Holmes and Watson.

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Old 22-07-2010, 18:45
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If Moffat brings the same magic to this that he has sprinkled over the latest series of Dr Who it should be great.
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Old 22-07-2010, 19:41
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Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce did this years ago. Well to be honest they hated the idea, but after two Victorian movies, Hollywood decided to bring it up to date for WWII propaganda purposes.

A lot of people including myself think it is one of the best Holmes ever. Some think it ruined it, taking it out of Victorian London.

Its hard to say Jeremy Brett had probably equal claim to the best Holmes title.
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Old 22-07-2010, 20:16
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Pass!
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Old 22-07-2010, 20:35
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I'm really looking forward to it, the trailer looks great.
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Old 22-07-2010, 20:35
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I'm very curious to see if it will work. Hope it does because if so, it could be fantastic.
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Old 22-07-2010, 20:39
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IM really looking fwd to this. Shame we are only getting 3 episodes though!
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Old 22-07-2010, 20:39
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I will give it a look. I enjoyed BC's portrayal of Hawking but i've never been a fan of Freeman.
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Old 22-07-2010, 21:34
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IM really looking fwd to this. Shame we are only getting 3 episodes though!
Oh, is that all? I thought it was going to be a proper series.

Maybe if it's popular they'll make more?
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Old 22-07-2010, 21:56
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I'm really looking forward to it (have been since it was first announced as a concept). I'm not so sure about Cumberpatch, but I hope he grows on me, but Martin Freeman as Watson seems like a very good choice!
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Old 22-07-2010, 21:59
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Oh, is that all? I thought it was going to be a proper series.

Maybe if it's popular they'll make more?
Well each episode is one and a half hours, so it's still quite long
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Old 22-07-2010, 22:12
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Well each episode is one and a half hours, so it's still quite long
That's not so bad, then.

I still hope they'll make more if it's good, though.
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Old 22-07-2010, 22:38
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That's not so bad, then.

I still hope they'll make more if it's good, though.
I'm just interested to see how they're going to bring it into modern times. I don't give a crap about all these Dr Who references since I'm not a fan. I just want some good acting and some viable explanations
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Old 22-07-2010, 22:49
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I'll give it a go because really rate Moffat. Can't help thinking in the back of my mind though- BBC saves money doing Holmes by setting it in the present day. No period clothes or settings etc. Hope my natural cynicism is soon put to bed and it turns out to be quality BBC drama.
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Old 22-07-2010, 23:06
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I've just seen the trailer and it looks really good. I hope it won't disappoint, especially since there's next to nothing on TV right now.
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Old 23-07-2010, 18:25
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Its going to be a terrible...

And what a stroke of genius! Bring back Sherlock Holmes! Oh, wait, there was a film last year.

And bring it in to modern times! Yeah great. The beauty of Holmes is the Victorian setting, the foggy streets and atmosphere. This is from the BBC, so we can expect:

Something that manages to be both cheesy and crass.

Poor script and hammy acting

Misjudged decisions "A study in pink"???

Cheap production values

Some bloke's bare arse for no reason

Derivative story

Lack of integrity or style.


ITV did Robin of Sherwood, thought my many to be the definitive interpretation of the story with high production value and great stories.

25 years later, BBC make "Robin Hood" which was atrocious on every level.

ITV did The adventures of Sherlock Holmes with Jeremy Brett. Thought by many to be the definitive interpretation of both the character and the stories.

25 years later BBC make "Sherlock"...
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Old 23-07-2010, 19:04
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Its going to be a terrible...

And what a stroke of genius! Bring back Sherlock Holmes! Oh, wait, there was a film last year.

And bring it in to modern times! Yeah great. The beauty of Holmes is the Victorian setting, the foggy streets and atmosphere. This is from the BBC, so we can expect:

Something that manages to be both cheesy and crass.

Poor script and hammy acting

Misjudged decisions "A study in pink"???

Cheap production values

Some bloke's bare arse for no reason

Derivative story

Lack of integrity or style.


ITV did Robin of Sherwood, thought my many to be the definitive interpretation of the story with high production value and great stories.

25 years later, BBC make "Robin Hood" which was atrocious on every level.

ITV did The adventures of Sherlock Holmes with Jeremy Brett. Thought by many to be the definitive interpretation of both the character and the stories.

25 years later BBC make "Sherlock"...
Give it a chance at least. The theory behind your argument may be true, but you never know it might work.

Sometimes the concept of TV programmes are really good, but poorly executed, and vice versa.

When I first heard about it I wasn't that interested, but since hearing more I think it sounds interesting, just set it to record
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Old 23-07-2010, 19:22
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Might give this a try..
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Old 23-07-2010, 19:42
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Its going to be a terrible...
Moffat also did Jekyll, which is broadly similar and was much acclaimed, eg http://io9.com/5524075/jekyll-the-be...y-tv-show-ever

He's talented. My only concern is whether he had enough time off from that children's science fiction series to do this.
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Old 23-07-2010, 20:30
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I'm a huge fan of the books, and also the Jeremy Brett series from the 80's. Normally I'd be denouncing this as the work of the evil one himself, but I actually have a sneaking feeling it's going to be pretty good. Talented cast and writing team. I'm not against the idea of transplanting the stories into modern day. It depends how you do it. At the end of the day, the Rathbone pics that were so popular have zero to do with the original stories, but many love them. I hate them personally, but the idea can work.

Yes, I'll be watching.
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Old 23-07-2010, 20:54
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I'm really really looking forward to this.

Re: tedious post above; give it a chance eh? :yawn:
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Old 23-07-2010, 21:11
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So when Holmes looks for clues with his magnifying glass and sniffs cigarette butts, won't the police forensic say excuse me sir, your messing with the DNA forensic.

Holmes was ahead of his time in the Victorian era, but now we have DNA and forensic science, he looks a bit dated. How are they going to get around this.

He could figure out things with deductive reasoning, but lots of detectives do that in the modern era.

He basically invented detective work and forensic science, but know every one does it, how will he stand out.

The promo seemed to be him being a rude Jeremy Brett going round insulting people.
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Old 23-07-2010, 22:02
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Its going to be a terrible...

And what a stroke of genius! Bring back Sherlock Holmes! Oh, wait, there was a film last year.
The Guy Richie directed film went into production in autumn 2008.
The BBC first announced that the Gatiss/ Moffat tv pilot would be made, at the Edinburgh Television Festival in October 2008. The pilot was made by 2009 but was not broadcast and a three episode series commissioned.

And bring it in to modern times! Yeah great. The beauty of Holmes is the Victorian setting, the foggy streets and atmosphere. This is from the BBC, so we can expect:
Oh fancy updating Sherlock Holmes and not setting it in it's original era, what sacrilege, only those numpties at the BBc would do that......oh hang on a sec, what were those black and white movies, starring Basil Rathbone and set in the 1940s all about....well I'll be blown...Sherlock Holmes.

Something that manages to be both cheesy and crass.

Poor script and hammy acting
Either you're a critic who has seen previews and are not amused or you're just speculating wildly. Call me old fashioned but I like to actually watch a programme before passing judgment on the acting, writing etc.


Misjudged decisions "A study in pink"???

Cheap production values

Some bloke's bare arse for no reason

Derivative story

Lack of integrity or style.


ITV did Robin of Sherwood, thought my many to be the definitive interpretation of the story with high production value and great stories.

25 years later, BBC make "Robin Hood" which was atrocious on every level.


ITV did The adventures of Sherlock Holmes with Jeremy Brett. Thought by many to be the definitive interpretation of both the character and the stories.

25 years later BBC make "Sherlock"...
Eh.? have you read the synopsis for the first episode or have you seen it, ? if not what do you base your statements on. it could turn out to be bobbins, it could turn out to be brilliant. I prefer to reserve judgement until see it.

I don't see the point of your comparison of Robin Hood, it was the BBC take circa 2008 or whatever on the legend, emphasis on the legend of Robin Hood.


As for your comparison with the Jeremy Brett series, you are comparing apples with oranges. The BBC have not set out to produce a screen adaptation of the books, set in the 19th century. The source material is a piece of literature, fiction, and as such is open to diverse and new interpretations by different generations. Do you ever go to the theatre ? You might see Julius Caesar set during WW2 or As You Like It in the 1950s or the Duchess of Malfi set in the present day or some such other craaaazzy behaviour !!!

As I mentioned above, the series of films starring Rathbone, an actor who's portrayal of Homes has stood the test of time for over 60 years, which began production in 1939, were mostly set in the then modern day ie the 1940s.
When the Rathbone series began the first two films made by Twentieth Century Fox were set in the Victorian era. When production was taken over by Universal the next 12 films in the series, made in the 1940s were set in that era.
Indeed prior to the first two Rathbone films there had been other screen representations of Holmes and Watson set in the era that the particular film was made in.
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Old 23-07-2010, 22:05
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might give it a go
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Old 23-07-2010, 22:11
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Thanks for highlighting this. I didn't know it was on. I'll be watching it.

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