Very memorable......


I had a thought last nt that all the Pros who have won SCD over the past few years (apart from Ola) have either left/are in the dance troupe/or have a "reduced role" ie Matt.

Doubt anything can compare with winning the series so maybe its just a natural progression to move on out of SCD (still say Matt has been moved along a few years too early)........if i personally look back to Matt winning with Alesha in 2007 nothing could really compare to that so maybe part of it is there is just nothing more left to gain/achieve there for him.

Think if i watch SCD at all this year it will be for the pro dances.........and then if Matt dosen't do any tours for SCD i'll be looking out for any possible tours of his own or demos with Nicole.

I would call leaving the show a totally reduced role!

I just cannot believe how stupid the BBC have been. I would like to see the pros who have left return as guest judges.

I am not sure I even want to watch the show now that so many of my favourite dancers have gone. Brian and Matthew were brilliant.

Whilst I am very upset not to be seeing Lilia dance again this year I think we must accept that this is probably her choice as much as the programme changes forcing her hand. If she was doing this on 'principle' then surely Darren would be leaving too. I think that she and Darren have sat down and thought this through and decided that this is an opportunity for her to do something else, either professionally or personally but with Darren still being employed on Strictly as a safety net financially for them both. As I said I am very sorry not to be seeing her she will be sorely missed but I wish her all the best for her future which I hope includes a pug puppy

Obviously some new broom has decided the line up for Strictly is 'tired'. What is 'tired' or old and unattractive about Lilia for example? If you abandon her experience, what is there to replace it with? But I don't think these worthless people read digitalspy anymore. They probably think the fan world begins and ends with the BBC forums, with their reputation for being clogged with high-posting m0rons.

^^^ This.

^^ this also

The show sounds as if it's in a complete and utter mess.

It's heamoraging familar faces left, right and centre.

Viewers have come to know and love the various pros. It won't be the same without them.

Have just picked up on this news today. Although we all knew it may be a possibility it is still a shock.

I am really upset Matthew was my favourite male dancer also Brian was a favourite of mine and Lilia is an amazing dancer and teacher winning SCD - two Xmas specials and tour - what are the stupid BBC thinking of.
It just will not be the same

There seem to be three criteria for female professionals on Strictly, they either have to be tall, trampy looking or have a private life the tabloids like to cover. Lillia doesn't meet any of those.

Matt is similar in that he just gets on with the job. Also I think the BBC realise there would be a conflict with Alesha being a judge, so instead of being sensible and replacing Alesha, they punt Matthew.

It's the way of the world that old faces give way to new ones. And sometimes, those new faces, whilst unfamiliar at first, become like old friends and prove to be as good as the ones that were lost.

No-one really likes change, but change happens.

Rather gutted about Matthew, but can understand his decision.

Glad Ian will be back (though would rather he was with a celeb)

It's odd that Darren is back and Lilia isnt. I'm sure there is a reason and we will find out what at some point.

I agree really......remember that Brian has only been on the show for 2 years and a lot of people were outraged at the thought of an American from DWTS being on the show.

[quote=fatskia;42240464]The end of an era for me - Lilia has always been my favourite.

I had hoped to see Lilia with a talented celeb who could do latin - then we have seen what she could really do.

Some great times with celebs who were limited in ability - I guess Matt Dawson was the most talented, and became one of the best ballroom dancers.

^^^
this again.

Gutted that Lilia has chosen to leave. We have to respect her decision but still ... SCD is going down in my estimations.

It's true that shows change, and sometimes that's good. But I can't blame people for being upset when the show has basically fired people who were doing a good job and were fairly popular. If all these pros had chosen to leave, as Camilla and Karen did, I don't think people would have the same reaction.

[quote=Fairygirl;42240856]Very memorable......



I had a thought last nt that all the Pros who have won SCD over the past few years (apart from Ola) have either left/are in the dance troupe/or have a "reduced role" ie Matt.



What about Brendan he won the first series and is still one of the main dancers every seems to forget him

Have they all beed "fired" though? Let's face it, we don't know any details, people are merely jumping to conclusions which fit with their likes & dislikes on the show.

Furthermore, new blood can bring new life into a programme which, as has been stated before, was felt to be dying, becoming stale etc. Now that new blood is coming, there seems to be no desire to even see what the new dancers bring to the show.

Who knows, they might be rather good, and might give the show that little something that leads to its rejuvenation.

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I don't think anyone's forgetting Brendan.

But it's a good point that of the seven pro winners of Strictly, five have now left the main roster - Darren, Lilia, Karen, Matt and Camilla.

None of them seem to have left in acrimonious circumstances, though (as Nicole Cutler and, to an extent, Hayley Holt did), so I can see any and all of them back for guests appearances with or without their celeb winners if the show dictates.

Yes, this. Wanting it to fit with personal preferences, which can be understood if you watch Strictly only to see a favourite pro.

But why was such a radical change needed in the first place?

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

It's hardly a radical change just changing/rotating a number of the professionals.

And many were saying last year (and this) that it WAS broke!.

Hello Sid xxx

Initially I misread that as 'haemorrhaging faeces."

I didn't forget him,he was left out of my list as he is the one pro ( besides Ola) who is a former winner and who has been paired with a celeb this year,the point still remains that 5 out of 7 former SCD Pro winners are not paired with a celeb this year


There are ways and means of "encouraging" people walk away without actually getting your hands dirty doing the deed yourself ........


Yep,new blood can bring new life to a prog as long as they are as good as the "old" blood going or moving along,if they are good enough then will generate their own following and all that will be good for SCD,if not then the series will fail.

Of course all this is assuming there was anything wrong with the "old" blood in the first place.

This what? Have you forgotten to include a link?


Perhaps, but as we are talking about the show a a whole then personal preferences are outweighed by the requirements of the show. On a pwrsonal level, I would have thought that people would be fans of dance in general and would watch the programme for the dances. But yes, if people only watch for a particular dancer, then it is reasonable to expect that at some point, that dancer will no longer appear. Now, if that viewer then stops watching, that is a personal decision (if a rather perverse one in my mind), but one that should not weigh heavily on the minds of the producers who should, quite rightly, be looking at the programme in the round (as no one dancer should be bigger than the programme, and dancers WILL move on at some point).

How do you know the pros will be rotated ?? there is nothing to say that the pros in the dance troup will be given a celeb next year ( i'm assuming thats what you mean ??)

Was it the pros that have been given lesser roles fault that some people thought the 2009 series was "broke "???

Many many other things i would look at before certain pro dancers....

All a matter of opinion....

Agreed but you can express an opinion that it was a few years too early,no one is saying that pro dancers should be on the series forever,and if the only "protest" that an individual can make about the way decisions have been made about SCD this year is not to watch then its perfectly reasonable to do so......."perverse" is all a matter of opinion,i might say its perverse for someone to watch Anton teach/perform Latin every other week whilst Matt Cutler might make a "few" guest slots in a 12 week series.........but i wouldn't say that as its all an individuals right to watch what they want.

If the producers have made the right decisions then the SCD will go from strength to strength if not then it will fail.