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Old 23-07-2010, 18:09
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The news that T-Mobile and Orange customers have been waiting to hear.................NOT!

If you are expecting Everything Everywhere to offer cheaper calls between T-Mobile and Orange phones,think again!

I sent an email to T-Mobile asking them when customers will be able to take advantage of making inclusive calls to Orange phones as part of 5 day passes or boosters, the answer I got was pretty grim. I also asked if customers will be able to nominate a T-Mobile number as a Magic Number on Orange, Same answer.

Which clearly was........We have no plans as yet as the merge is still occuring blah blah blah!

Whatever! Its a clear plan to make as much money as they can from termination rates which do not exist. 29 Million customers (Including Virgin Mobile)calling each other at the rates they charge must really be raking in that cash.

The next question I asked was about when customers can start roaming across each of the two networks as I find the T-Mobile network stronger in London and Manchester whilst Orange is stronger outside such areas.

The answer was pretty much the same......No idea!

So everyone will have to sit tight for now.

If I was running Everything Everywhere, I would start offering discounts for calls between the two brands as customers will soon start shopping elsewhere, especially now that 3 have launched very attractive offers and much better network coverage.
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Old 24-07-2010, 11:40
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From what I have read on the net, the brand names t-mobile UK and Orange UK will be gotten rid of within 11 months at that stage customers on both networks will benefit from being under the same umbrella network, with better coverage and cheaper rates. I think it will be a good thing and you just need to give them time. I would rather they did it properly and not rush rather than rush and balls everyone's accounts up.

What makes u think that virgin mobile is included in the nearly 30 million customer base? I thought virgin was a separate company but just purchased wholesale minutes and data from t-mobile?
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Old 24-07-2010, 11:56
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T-Mobile to Virgin and vice versa are classed as Off-Net even thught they are technically "On-Net"

Same goes for GiffGaff to O2, Tesco to O2, Asda to Vodafone and vice versa, I could go on.

They all share x-net rates when there is technically no MTR to pay, so they are all guilty. Not just Orange/T-M.
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Old 24-07-2010, 12:18
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The next question I asked was about when customers can start roaming across each of the two networks as I find the T-Mobile network stronger in London and Manchester whilst Orange is stronger outside such areas.

The answer was pretty much the same......No idea!
Trials are currently underway within PAYG and some selected PAYM customers, with great results apparently! Sit tight, it's on it's way. I'm sure you'd rather know it was tried and tested than for them to have started allowing it, then for customers to kick off when there's problems!
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Old 26-07-2010, 04:38
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Virgin mobile and orange home service customers are included in that 30 million the website says so. T-mobile is actually quite small on it's own when you compare it to O2
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Old 26-07-2010, 08:11
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Trials are currently underway within PAYG and some selected PAYM customers, with great results apparently! Sit tight, it's on it's way. I'm sure you'd rather know it was tried and tested than for them to have started allowing it, then for customers to kick off when there's problems!
I've only seen one T-Mobile phone roam OK onto Orange, and that was one of the top bods from T-Mobile who sat with me at work a few weeks back. My T-Mobile PAYG and Orange staff phone both say "No Access" when registering onto the opposite network.... No update from the Orange side yet about rollout....

Both networks are equally as bad reception-wise at home anyway LOL
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Old 26-07-2010, 10:12
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It all seems to have gone quiet about the roaming roll out. I dont suppose anyone has heard of any timescales yet?
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Old 26-07-2010, 13:06
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No. Nothing at all.
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Old 26-07-2010, 16:59
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I've only seen one T-Mobile phone roam OK onto Orange, and that was one of the top bods from T-Mobile who sat with me at work a few weeks back. My T-Mobile PAYG and Orange staff phone both say "No Access" when registering onto the opposite network.... No update from the Orange side yet about rollout....

Both networks are equally as bad reception-wise at home anyway LOL
Strange, I know several people involved from T-Mobiles side! Also we received an email briefing targetted at PAYG customers and their chance to opt in? Wonder why it's being kept quiet for others?
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Old 26-07-2010, 17:49
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Everything Everywhere......Eventually!
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Old 26-07-2010, 19:24
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Strange, I know several people involved from T-Mobiles side! Also we received an email briefing targetted at PAYG customers and their chance to opt in? Wonder why it's being kept quiet for others?
There may well be some engineers on the Orange side using it.... we've heard nothing on front-line...
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Old 26-07-2010, 20:34
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I've heard rumours of them rebranding to One2One or Magenta Telecom.

They had doubts though about One2One because the domain One2One.com is porn site and people will get one2one.co.uk mixed up with .com

Magenta was suggested by some kind of online media news group.

It has disaster written all over it, I think they should just call it Orange or T-Mobile. One of the two! Or just call it Virgin!

Thats not a bad idea, merge Everything Everywhere,Virgin Mobile and Virgin Media together, they will be the largest telecoms firm in Britain! And it will spell the end of Orange's disasterous home broadband.
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Old 26-07-2010, 22:05
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Ah Magenta, suggested as an april fools joke..

http://www.mobilegazette.com/orange-...a-10x04x01.htm
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Old 26-07-2010, 22:48
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Its an idea though

The companies between them own the right to use these names:

T-Mobile
Orange
Wanadoo
Freeserve
Callserve
T-Home
France Telecom (A pointless one for the UK)
Magenta Colourn (T-Mobile brand colour)
One2One
Microtel (Name for Orange before Hutchison acquired it in the early 90's)

They cannot use:

Eurobell (Brand name was sold off together with Cable franchises to Telewest/Virgin Media in 2000)

Mercury or Mercury One2One (Mercury brand is owned by Cable and Wireless Worldwide)
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Old 27-07-2010, 15:53
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It is an idea and a pretty good one at that.

I personally feel they wouldn't go back to being called One2One. Why change the name back to an old one they got rid of years ago.
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Old 27-07-2010, 17:26
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Trials are currently underway within PAYG and some selected PAYM customers, with great results apparently! Sit tight, it's on it's way. I'm sure you'd rather know it was tried and tested than for them to have started allowing it, then for customers to kick off when there's problems!
With the three T-Mobile masts nearest to my house (not that any are brilliant anyway) down at present (for around two weeks now ) I would rather have semi-dodgy roaming than a red flashing light on my phone (no signal)....
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