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digiwigi
26-09-2014
Wonder when Global's extra station is going to launch on D1? It was announced ages ago but it looks like even Magic might pip them to the post if they don't launch before the end of the year.
Gavin_D
27-09-2014
Although Steve Denyer is shown to be on club classics now its actually Roberto
harrykent
27-09-2014
Originally Posted by Gavin_D:
“Although Steve Denyer is shown to be on club classics now its actually Roberto”

This happened at the same time Nick Snaith was shown to be back on weekend afternoons, though that was fixed Steve Denyer was not. However both are probably linked - some default schedule setting I'd imagine.
hyperstarsponge
28-09-2014
Wonder if Heart will just mention on digital radio and online in a few years time?
Funk You
28-09-2014
Originally Posted by bluesdiamond:
“Define proper music?
Johnny Cash?
The Kinks?
Led Zepplin?”

They claim to play lots of variety yet barely play dance music, no unsigned music and seem to stick rigidly to a certain type of playlist. They never shake it up a bit, just the same old pap.
jon craig
29-09-2014
Originally Posted by Funk You:
“They claim to play lots of variety yet barely play dance music, no unsigned music and seem to stick rigidly to a certain type of playlist. They never shake it up a bit, just the same old pap.”

Why would you ever expect Heart to play any unsigned music?????

It is simply not what they exist to do, nor what their audience would expect. Even a station like Wave that often gets the plaudits on here for it's wide and varied playlist would be unlikely to ever stray away from tracks from 'traditionally' signed artists.

As for dance music, there is plenty of 'pop' dance/ classic dance on Club Classics but again if you're expecting Heart to pump out today's dance hits (such as The Magician/Martin Garrix/SecondCity etc) you're going to be disappointed. Plus Global have the Capital brand to do that job for them.

I don't think you really get this commercial radio lark, do you??
Sky_Tech
29-09-2014
Originally Posted by jon craig:
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I don't think you really get this commercial radio lark, do you?? ”


Here here Jon! They can't be doing too much wrong...

Heart is one of the most popular commercial radio brands in the UK.
9.1 million listeners tune in to Heart each week. Our listeners are from a variety of backgrounds, including wives, husbands, parents and professionals.
They’re the kind of people who make time for themselves, squeeze the most out of life, and enjoy shopping, going out, having fun and spending time with their friends and family. And that’s what makes Heart THE commercial radio station that gets advertisers’ hearts racing. Fast.
Listeners connect with Heart because it stays in tune with their needs and emotions all day, every day.
Sky_Tech
29-09-2014
Originally Posted by Gavin_D:
“The Schedule page seems to be in a bit of a mess at the moment they've got Matt Wilkinson on 04:00 to 06:00 Monday to Wednesday and Nick Snaith on from 13:00 to 16:00 even though he's at Magic.”

And the Sky Banner on 0111 is showing Nick Snaith on air at the moment. They got serious IT problems now? Wonder if he getting Royalties for using his name?
occy
29-09-2014
Originally Posted by Sky_Tech:
“And the Sky Banner on 0111 is showing Nick Snaith on air at the moment. They got serious IT problems now? Wonder if he getting Royalties for using his name?”

BT TV had Simon Dale for Martin Collins listed for Magic Early breakfast when it was Martin. It's nothing too do with the TV providers if they havnt been given the correct information from the Radio stations.
Gavin_D
29-09-2014
JK and Lucy were giving the details for who's on heart at 3pm I think it was even though Matt Wilkinson was on air. Did someone hit the wrong button?
simonk243
29-09-2014
Originally Posted by Sky_Tech:
“Here here Jon! They can't be doing too much wrong...

Heart is one of the most popular commercial radio brands in the UK.
9.1 million listeners tune in to Heart each week. Our listeners are from a variety of backgrounds, including wives, husbands, parents and professionals.
They’re the kind of people who make time for themselves, squeeze the most out of life, and enjoy shopping, going out, having fun and spending time with their friends and family. And that’s what makes Heart THE commercial radio station that gets advertisers’ hearts racing. Fast.
Listeners connect with Heart because it stays in tune with their needs and emotions all day, every day.”

God give me a sick bucket, how cheesy lol
simonk243
29-09-2014
Originally Posted by jon craig:
“Why would you ever expect Heart to play any unsigned music?????

It is simply not what they exist to do, nor what their audience would expect. Even a station like Wave that often gets the plaudits on here for it's wide and varied playlist would be unlikely to ever stray away from tracks from 'traditionally' signed artists.

As for dance music, there is plenty of 'pop' dance/ classic dance on Club Classics but again if you're expecting Heart to pump out today's dance hits (such as The Magician/Martin Garrix/SecondCity etc) you're going to be disappointed. Plus Global have the Capital brand to do that job for them.

I don't think you really get this commercial radio lark, do you?? ”

It's understandable to play the same current hits numerous times a day but to play the same retro songs over and over there is no excuse. There needs to be more variety of older songs I'm sick of hearing the same songs from the likes of whitney, madonna, prince and the likes of nothings gonna stop us now and dirty dancing etc. There are 100s of other classic songs that could be played please please please
harrykent
29-09-2014
7 O'Clock news on Heart Kent played Heart Thames Valley News
ledders
29-09-2014
The thing is, if it tried, heart could be a decent station.

There needs to be more interaction with the listener. It sickens me the way they give somebody a mention but don't say where they are from. Get more listeners on air. Talk with them and to them. The input from the DJs is a disgrace. It is simply insulting.
Sarahsaurus
01-10-2014
Originally Posted by ledders:
“The thing is, if it tried, heart could be a decent station.

There needs to be more interaction with the listener. It sickens me the way they give somebody a mention but don't say where they are from. Get more listeners on air. Talk with them and to them. The input from the DJs is a disgrace. It is simply insulting.”

I take the opposite view,I think there should be less interaction with the listener. All that "Text in,go to our Facebook page,tweet us,tell us what you're doing" stuff,I can't be bothered with it. Who cares if Sharon's on her way to the airport for her fortnight's holiday in Magaluf? Who cares if Tracey's sitting in the house chilling out after a big night out with the girls?

I know I don't.

As for getting listeners on air,no thanks.

Incidentally I presume the reason the presenters don't say where the listeners are from is that a lot of the Heart content is networked across all the stations,except for the jingles. So they don't want listeners to Heart Scotland hearing things like "And thanks to Karen in Birmingham and Dave in Milton Keynes for texting in",and so on.
They like to give the impression Heart's a local station (eg the new jingle "Scotland's Heart"),when a lot of the time it isn't. I'm pretty sure the overnight show is networked. That's the only time I listen to Heart.
PhilH
01-10-2014
Originally Posted by ledders:
“It sickens me the way they give somebody a mention but don't say where they are from.”

Blimey.

Originally Posted by Sarahsaurus:
“I take the opposite view,I think there should be less interaction with the listener. All that "Text in,go to our Facebook page,tweet us,tell us what you're doing" stuff,I can't be bothered with it. Who cares if Sharon's on her way to the airport for her fortnight's holiday in Magaluf? Who cares if Tracey's sitting in the house chilling out after a big night out with the girls?

I know I don't.

As for getting listeners on air,no thanks.”

Totally agree. For me there's actually few things worse on radio than Radio 2's listener request show on Friday evenings. Simon Mayo is usually great, but I really don't care about other people's journeys and plans for the weekend and the chats can go on for what feels like ages.

I just want to listen to the music.
Sarahsaurus
01-10-2014
Originally Posted by Sky_Tech:
“Here here Jon! They can't be doing too much wrong...

Heart is one of the most popular commercial radio brands in the UK.
9.1 million listeners tune in to Heart each week. Our listeners are from a variety of backgrounds, including wives, husbands, parents and professionals.
They’re the kind of people who make time for themselves, squeeze the most out of life, and enjoy shopping, going out, having fun and spending time with their friends and family. And that’s what makes Heart THE commercial radio station that gets advertisers’ hearts racing. Fast.
Listeners connect with Heart because it stays in tune with their needs and emotions all day, every day.”

That read to me like a press release.

Indeed I discovered via a quick Google that it is copied more or less word for word from the Heart/Global promo and media pack pdf.

But thank you for sharing it with us anyway.
Funk You
01-10-2014
Originally Posted by jon craig:
“Why would you ever expect Heart to play any unsigned music?????

It is simply not what they exist to do, nor what their audience would expect. Even a station like Wave that often gets the plaudits on here for it's wide and varied playlist would be unlikely to ever stray away from tracks from 'traditionally' signed artists.

As for dance music, there is plenty of 'pop' dance/ classic dance on Club Classics but again if you're expecting Heart to pump out today's dance hits (such as The Magician/Martin Garrix/SecondCity etc) you're going to be disappointed. Plus Global have the Capital brand to do that job for them.

I don't think you really get this commercial radio lark, do you?? ”

Originally Posted by Sky_Tech:
“Here here Jon! They can't be doing too much wrong...

Heart is one of the most popular commercial radio brands in the UK.
9.1 million listeners tune in to Heart each week. Our listeners are from a variety of backgrounds, including wives, husbands, parents and professionals.
They’re the kind of people who make time for themselves, squeeze the most out of life, and enjoy shopping, going out, having fun and spending time with their friends and family. And that’s what makes Heart THE commercial radio station that gets advertisers’ hearts racing. Fast.
Listeners connect with Heart because it stays in tune with their needs and emotions all day, every day.”

I do get commercial radio but what I'm saying is Heart tagline says it plays a variety of music when really they do not. They play pop music and have a rather poultry few hours of club classics which again is the same old tunes, they do not connect to everyone because not everyone listens to it. I think if they opened up their resources more they would certainly find that people would listen a hell of a lot more. I have been asked to do a dance music show on a local station that is community and I won't be playing club classics like the old DJ they had I shall be playing upfront dance music from many styles ranging from house to hardcore to trance to drum n bass so that it caters for more listeners.

Its a shame heart does not expand and I know what the replies will be "its not that sort of station" but what Im highlighting is the fact that after all these years Heart still is crap and plays crap.
hyperstarsponge
01-10-2014
Think Heart should change more music variety to music people love, Could work.
Radiogram
01-10-2014
Originally Posted by Funk You:
“They play pop music and have a rather poultry few hours of club classics.”

Presumably songs from Duck Sauce and Chicken Shack then?
Funk You
01-10-2014
Originally Posted by Radiogram:
“Presumably songs from Duck Sauce and Chicken Shack then?”

Or any other farmyard rubbish the station plays
jon craig
01-10-2014
Originally Posted by Funk You:
“I do get commercial radio but what I'm saying is Heart tagline says it plays a variety of music when really they do not. They play pop music and have a rather poultry few hours of club classics which again is the same old tunes, they do not connect to everyone because not everyone listens to it. I think if they opened up their resources more they would certainly find that people would listen a hell of a lot more. I have been asked to do a dance music show on a local station that is community and I won't be playing club classics like the old DJ they had I shall be playing upfront dance music from many styles ranging from house to hardcore to trance to drum n bass so that it caters for more listeners.

Its a shame heart does not expand and I know what the replies will be "its not that sort of station" but what Im highlighting is the fact that after all these years Heart still is crap and plays crap.”

The problem with trying to cater for more listeners in the way you describe is that actually, you'll often alienate more listeners and subsequently end up with less. To use the example of your dance music show - I'm a fan of funky/progressive house, but have little or no interest in hardcore and drum n bass. If you presented a show dedicated to house I may well listen to all of it, but if you followed a couple of great house tracks with 10 minutes of hardcore or drum n bass, I'd probably tune away. You'd lose me, and probably many other listeners by trying to be too diverse. You'd give me a bit of what I like, followed by a bit of something I dislike.

This is why, in increasingly competitive markets, commercial radio operators have discovered that the key to success is a focused, consistent offering. Capital play rhythmic hit music, Smooth play laid-back, relaxing, familiar tracks, and Heart simply play the big songs from the last 3 decades or so that they know their listeners want to hear. You don't need to be too clever, you don't need to educate your audience, and you do need to understand that those behind these big quasi-national brands understand the market and know what they're doing.

You are wanting Heart to be something it was never designed to be. It's like going into Lidl and being disappointed that they don't have a champagne and oyster bar, or heading to Fortnum and Mason and moaning because they don't do 20p 'value' cans of beans.

Out of interest, will your community radio show feature music that you know your target audience want to hear, or music you like that you think they want to hear? In the real world of commercial radio, it needs to be the former, in community radio you can probably get away with the latter.
jon craig
01-10-2014
Originally Posted by ledders:
“The thing is, if it tried, heart could be a decent station.

There needs to be more interaction with the listener. It sickens me the way they give somebody a mention but don't say where they are from. Get more listeners on air. Talk with them and to them. The input from the DJs is a disgrace. It is simply insulting.”

Really? It sickens me that innocent people have been beheaded in the Middle East. It sickens me that innocent children suffer as a result of major institutional failures and abuses of power such as those reported in Rotherham recently.

Each to their own though. Personally, I couldn't give a monkeys whether Heart tell me where Theresa, Sally and Lucy come from. Nor, would I suggest, do the vast majority of casual listeners.
BRITLAND
02-10-2014
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“Think Heart should change more music variety to music people love, Could work.”

Music You Love sounds better and fits better for their target audience

When you hear the phrase More Music Variety people will get the idea of music variety not the same songs over again
ledders
02-10-2014
Originally Posted by PhilH:
“I just want to listen to the music.”

Good for you.

May I suggest that you could try putting a CD on or use an MP3 player and maybe then the rest of us could listen to radio for the whole host of things it offers than just playing music.

You have highlighted the exact problem with heart though. Other than the extremely narrow playlist it offers, there is nothing else to engage the listener.
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