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simonk243
12-03-2015
Booty Luv Boogie Tonight played earlier not heard that on Heart daytime before either.
simonk243
12-03-2015
Originally Posted by jon craig:
“All of which Global are playing on Capital. Don't forget Heart is all about playing big, familiar, established songs - in the case of Jess Glynne, whilst I don't doubt it will be a pretty big hit, it's probably still relatively unfamiliar to most.”

Yeah I understand heart is about playing familiar songs and artists but there are so many other familiar songs and artists they could play.

Sugababes, the wanted, jamiroquai, will young, lemar, mpeople, jamelia, all saints, natasha and daniel bedingfield, atomic kitten, craig david too name but a few and I know occasionly one or two of these gets played but not much. All familiar and I'm sure would fit in on heart.
Sarahsaurus
13-03-2015
Originally Posted by Themaverick:
“Only on Club Classics I think, not in daytime peak hours.
I just heard that Time Tunnel too. Donna Lewis, Oasis, Spice Girls. Genuinely took me back.
Brilliant.”

The Time Tunnel is the best bit on Heart. it's the one time of the day (or night,when I listen) that you've a chance of hearing something off the normal playlist and a bit of relief from the usual relentless diet of Ed Sheeran,George Ezra,Sam Smith,John Legend,Starship and so on.

Although they quite often slip one of their "standards" into the six tunes,I mean I've heard Cyndi Lauper's Girls Just Want to Have Fun on the Time Tunnel,as if that isn't played enough already on Heart. Presumably this is done as a sort of anchor,a familiar tune that the audience will recognise.

Because as we know Heart is all about playing familiar popular tunes that they know their target audience likes.

And then playing them again.

And again.

And again.
jon craig
13-03-2015
Originally Posted by simonk243:
“Yeah I understand heart is about playing familiar songs and artists but there are so many other familiar songs and artists they could play.

Sugababes, the wanted, jamiroquai, will young, lemar, mpeople, jamelia, all saints, natasha and daniel bedingfield, atomic kitten, craig david too name but a few and I know occasionly one or two of these gets played but not much. All familiar and I'm sure would fit in on heart.”

That looks like the tracklisting from some 'Pepsi Chart 2002' compilation you'd find in a charity shop!

Seriously though, to a degree you are right in that none of the artists you have mentioned would specifically sound out of place on Heart, and as you mentioned some of those do get played on occasions. In terms of how deep into their catalogue you would want to go, Heaykesrt will know the answer. I'm sure they have extensively tested and researched tracks by those artists and if you're not hearing them, the answer could be that they're are not actually as popular as you might imagine they would be.

You might not be hearing The Wanted much at the moment, but Nathan Sykes is about to launch his solo career - I would imagine his Global talent links will make him a shoe-in for the Heart playlist very soon!!
simonk243
13-03-2015
Originally Posted by jon craig:
“That looks like the tracklisting from some 'Pepsi Chart 2002' compilation you'd find in a charity shop!

Seriously though, to a degree you are right in that none of the artists you have mentioned would specifically sound out of place on Heart, and as you mentioned some of those do get played on occasions. In terms of how deep into their catalogue you would want to go, Heaykesrt will know the answer. I'm sure they have extensively tested and researched tracks by those artists and if you're not hearing them, the answer could be that they're are not actually as popular as you might imagine they would be.

You might not be hearing The Wanted much at the moment, but Nathan Sykes is about to launch his solo career - I would imagine his Global talent links will make him a shoe-in for the Heart playlist very soon!!”

Yeah i understand some of the artists would have a few familiar tracks where as others maybe only one or two.

Atomic Kitten Whole Again there biggest track and very well known
Themaverick
13-03-2015
Originally Posted by simonk243:
“Yeah i understand some of the artists would have a few familiar tracks where as others maybe only one or two.

Atomic Kitten Whole Again there biggest track and very well known”

Atomic Kitten - Whole Again is an awful shout. Dreadful. Terrible. Absolute nonsense.
simonk243
13-03-2015
Originally Posted by Themaverick:
“Atomic Kitten - Whole Again is an awful shout. Dreadful. Terrible. Absolute nonsense.
”

I know it's quite cheesy but still sounds good, good too sing along too I could imagine it playing on heart with its female target
neil_andrews
13-03-2015
Originally Posted by Themaverick:
“Atomic Kitten - Whole Again is an awful shout. Dreadful. Terrible. Absolute nonsense.
”

Agree it's thoroughly annoying + likely to change any station I was listening too if it came on!
Amara
13-03-2015
Originally Posted by Sarahsaurus:
“The Time Tunnel is the best bit on Heart. it's the one time of the day (or night,when I listen) that you've a chance of hearing something off the normal playlist and a bit of relief from the usual relentless diet of Ed Sheeran,George Ezra,Sam Smith,John Legend,Starship and so on.

Although they quite often slip one of their "standards" into the six tunes,I mean I've heard Cyndi Lauper's Girls Just Want to Have Fun on the Time Tunnel,as if that isn't played enough already on Heart. Presumably this is done as a sort of anchor,a familiar tune that the audience will recognise.

Because as we know Heart is all about playing familiar popular tunes that they know their target audience likes.

And then playing them again.

And again.


And again.”

Why if you dislike Heart so much (its an awful station) do you appear to listen so much?
jon craig
13-03-2015
Originally Posted by Amara:
“Why if you dislike Heart so much (its an awful station) do you appear to listen so much?”

I know, it's madness isn't it?? It would be like you listening to a station you can't stand - maybe Smooth for example - and then rushing to pass comment on how poor it is. You of course wouldn't be so daft would you??

He has also stated, by the way, that Heart is played in his workplace and he doesn't actively chose to listen (from what I remember, despite the name, Sarahsaurus is male).
ledders
13-03-2015
Originally Posted by jon craig:
“I know, it's madness isn't it?? It would be like you listening to a station you can't stand - maybe Smooth for example - and then rushing to pass comment on how poor it is. You of course wouldn't be so daft would you??

He has also stated, by the way, that Heart is played in his workplace and he doesn't actively chose to listen (from what I remember, despite the name, Sarahsaurus is male).”

I think some people will dip in and out of heart hoping someday it is going to start to become a radio station.

Sadly, it doesn't appear to be happening as yet. Why can't Global actually think about this so called station? It really wouldn't be that difficult to sort out. Put a bit of effort into it.
Sarahsaurus
14-03-2015
Originally Posted by Amara:
“Why if you dislike Heart so much (its an awful station) do you appear to listen so much?”

I don't listen to it that much,and I certainly wouldn't choose to listen to it if there was anything better available. I listen to it when I'm at work two overnight shifts a week. The FM reception is not very good in the building (and there is no AM reception at all) so Heart is pretty much the only the only station we can get on our FM radio. So it's that or nothing. You might say we should a get digital one,but that would probably just cause arguments. Everybody would have a station they wanted to listen to. And we've all got to listen to the same one. We used to have a digital radio (until it got lost) and we listened to Absolute 80s but anyone who's listened to that for any length of time knows it has the same problem as Heart - it plays the same records over and over again. Also the digital reception is not very good either,and is prone to annoying dropouts and silences.

Heart is probably not designed to be listened to for such a long period of time in one go,as we do. However having worked nightshift for twenty five years and listened to many stations over the years,there is no doubt that Heart has a more limited playlist than any other station I've listened to. It is just a bit frustrating when you hear George Ezra and Sam Smith for the third time that night.
Sarahsaurus
14-03-2015
Originally Posted by jon craig:
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He has also stated, by the way, that Heart is played in his workplace and he doesn't actively chose to listen (from what I remember, despite the name, Sarahsaurus is male).”

You are correct,sir,I am in fact a Mr Saurus. Sarahsaurus,despite sounding like a made up comedy name,is actually the name of a real dinosaur.

I took the name in honour of Sarah Harding of Girls Aloud. Nadine is my favourite Girl Aloud (although I like all of them) but there isn't a real nadinasaurus.
Alex Cator
14-03-2015
I hate Heart, and, in my opinion, it is just terrible, and I feel like switching it off, and maybe changing their transmitters to transmit something half-decent. The Dutch equivalent of Heart, Sky Radio, is just so much better, with more choice of music, with many more really old, rock, early 10s and late 00s, and dance songs, and also lots more genres, in addition to some of the songs that get played on Heart.
I hate the music on Heart, and I also find that several Heart transmissions interfere with my FM DXing (distant radio listening) hobby, and the foreign stations that I listen to play much better music than most British stations. One of which is a Dutch station called Radio 538 (in Dutch, of course, so, it's called 'Vijf Drie Acht'), and it's a hit music station, but with much better music than that of Capital's output, and my most regular transmitter here in Norfolk is Rotterdam (102.7), and most days 102.7 is occupied by just boring old Heart Peterborough. Being 30 miles inland must be a problem, as basically, 102.7 on the Norfolk coast would be either 538, or RTBF La Première from Profondeville, Belgium, both of which are much better stations than stupid Heart, the latter being a talk station in French.
I also guess it was better with little ILR stations, with their own identity (e.g. Radio Broadland) than one big terrible network called Heart. I did receive Heart Milton Keynes on 103.3 here in Norfolk via tropospheric propagation, and I would've been excited if it was still Horizon Radio, but I wasn't so excited, as it was just Heart!
Go to hell, Heart, and stay there as the radio station for the devil, but don't come back to Earth!
andys corner
15-03-2015
Originally Posted by Amara:
“Why if you dislike Heart so much (its an awful station) do you appear to listen so much?”

Ooh can I answer as I also think its diarrhoea for the ears?

I have a long commute and can easily spend 3-4 hours behind the wheel, in a car with a terrible aerial and an ipod that I have frequently forgot to charge.

My main focus is traffic reports, and if my wife is in the car she will change the station if it gets annoying. We find the same problem with all global stations round here. The same songs over and over, heart is the worst offender.
Sarahsaurus
15-03-2015
Originally Posted by Alex Cator:
“I also guess it was better with little ILR stations, with their own identity (e.g. Radio Broadland) than one big terrible network called Heart. I did receive Heart Milton Keynes on 103.3 here in Norfolk via tropospheric propagation, and I would've been excited if it was still Horizon Radio, but I wasn't so excited, as it was just Heart!
Go to hell, Heart, and stay there as the radio station for the devil, but don't come back to Earth!”

Blimey,I'd never heard of that. It sounds a bit like a Yes album.
Borsant
15-03-2015
Originally Posted by Sarahsaurus:
“Blimey,I'd never heard of that. It sounds a bit like a Yes album.”

....or the Alan Parsons Project
wckartist
15-03-2015
Originally Posted by Borsant:
“....or the Alan Parsons Project”


Its actually a Gong "B" side circa 1973, and was a big favourite on the overnight show of Radio North Sea International!
Sarahsaurus
16-03-2015
Originally Posted by wckartist:
“Its actually a Gong "B" side circa 1973, and was a big favourite on the overnight show of Radio North Sea International!”

I think you've got that wrong. I've looked into this. It was indeed recorded in 1973,and was apparently supposed to be on Gong's album Flying Teapot,but was rejected at the last minute because it didn't fit in with the album's concept.

Supposedly Nigel Tufnel heard a demo of it and one of the tracks on Spinal Tap's 1974 album Intravenus de Milo is heavily influenced by it.

There may be bootleg versions of Gong's Tropospheric Propagation available but I haven't found anything so far. Apparently the full version lasts nineteen minutes.
wckartist
16-03-2015
Originally Posted by Sarahsaurus:
“ Apparently the full version lasts nineteen minutes.”

Yes, I believe it does!

My mate said they did it as the encore song at the legendary Hammersmith Palais gig in 1975, and he missed the last tube home!

I have the edited 7 inch "B" side version, on an unreleased demo, and that's only 7m 55 sec!

Some guy from Greenland has advertised the full 19minute album version in this months Record Collector magazine, and is asking "Wallet busting" money for it!

Thing is, its a Japanese CD promo, NOT the limited edition much sought after Faroe Islands yellow vinyl copy that I need to complete my collection!
Sarahsaurus
16-03-2015
Originally Posted by wckartist:
“Yes, I believe it does!

My mate said they did it as the encore song at the legendary Hammersmith Palais gig in 1975, and he missed the last tube home!

I have the edited 7 inch "B" side version, on an unreleased demo, and that's only 7m 55 sec!

Some guy from Greenland has advertised the full 19minute album version in this months Record Collector magazine, and is asking "Wallet busting" money for it!

Thing is, its a Japanese CD promo, NOT the limited edition much sought after Faroe Islands yellow vinyl copy that I need to complete my collection!”


I don't think that Faroe Islands yellow vinyl copy really exists. I've never seen a picture of one. If it does there were probably very few made. The French blue vinyl copy,well that's a different story. I have a friend who used to run a record shop in the seventies and he definitely remembers selling one,but he couldn't remember for how much. I would imagine a mint copy today would run into hundreds of pounds.

Apparently there was a limited edition Japan only Gong box set released in 1993 with all the albums and some extra previously unavailable demos and unreleased tracks,but I'm not sure if Tropospheric Propagation is on it,but if it was released as a separate promo CD then I would think there's a good chance it is.
Borsant
16-03-2015
Allow me to quote from the words plastered on the reception wall at Global 'Here's to the obsessive ones ....'

It's ironic that the anoraks hate it so much 😄
andys corner
16-03-2015
the problem with heart (of many problems) is that someone somewhere told them that their target household's have big purchases decided by women.

No.

How realistic is that really? how many people on this thread are married, and in your household does the wife have control of the finances or is it an equal decision?

Someone in a marketing company somewhere has told global's directors something and they have believed it and followed it blindly.

Maybe they dont see post after post from listeners on their various facebook pages saying they are sick of hearing the same songs over and over
Borsant
16-03-2015
Originally Posted by andys corner:
“the problem with heart (of many problems) is that someone somewhere told them that their target household's have big purchases decided by women.

No.

How realistic is that really? how many people on this thread are married, and in your household does the wife have control of the finances or is it an equal decision?

Someone in a marketing company somewhere has told global's directors something and they have believed it and followed it blindly.

Maybe they dont see post after post from listeners on their various facebook pages saying they are sick of hearing the same songs over and over”

Why do you think they count their audience in increasing millions and revenues similarly?

There's a popular mistrust of research but when a company uses it successfully to identify a target then the correct number and type of songs to satisfy that audience, it's difficult to argue against it without admitting that you don't understand the elements of the game.
Themaverick
16-03-2015
Apologies for the sweeping statement.
But Heart isn't programmed with us in mind. Not the kind that has the time or inclination to write on a radio forum on a Monday morning. So while it's fun to debate, when do you think we can all stop moaning about repetition and the way Global put together one of the most successful commercial radio brands in Europe.
It's like groundhog day.
Because that fact seems to stand up against all the arguments.

We're the kind that would buy Only By The Night and know that there are more tracks that Sex On Fire and Use Somebody.
We're not the kind that would buy Now 86 and play it over and over again in the CD player in the car.

It's like groundhog day.

I'd like to say that I think the branded intros stand out so well, I think they're getting a little repetitive.
But that's just me.

Nice to hear Luke Smith playing Maroon 5's Sugar on Friday too.
Again, that's just me.

It's like groudh.... oh, I've done that one already.
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