[*HB*]

I can't help but wonder if this isn't deliberate to make me buy the new iPhone 4? Basically since I last updated it about a week ago it's gone very slow, crashes, apps closedown for no reason, signal has gone from great to "no service" in loads of places, it's just ruined it completely. Has anyone else had this happen to their 'old' iPhone and is there anything I can do except buy the new one or get something different altogether?

[Ian Kane]

To be honest it's made my 3GS a nightmare. Dropping calls even though i've got 1 bar (we all know that's because they extended the db range for the iPhone 4 bars and implemented it on the 3GS for some reason), Youtube won't play a clip fully, the lag is horrendous & having to manually retrieve my email instead of it fetching/pushing (no biggie but it's a feature, it 'should' work). I could probably list more but they're the main ones pissing me off.

My iPhone 4 will be here on Thursday. I can only hope it performs better all round (bar the obvious issue) or it'll be going back.

[zroit]

Mine was quite slow and unresponsive after the update. I found that reducing the data on it to about 1.5 gb by removing all the music and never using the ipod function has made it work fine again. Which doesn't bother me too much as I have an mp3 player anyway.

[john_locke]

You have done the 4.0.1 update as well, yes?

[Gormond]

Yeah my 3G is also dire with the 4.0 update. Apple should just have excluded it like the 2G.

[psionic]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gormond

Yeah my 3G is also dire with the 4.0 update. Apple should just have excluded it like the 2G.

I agree. The 3g is very sluggish with iOS 4.

OP have you tried a restore and setting it up as new then retransfer your stuff over, as opposed to restoring a backup? Also ensure your memory is not too full as mentioned above.

[bigsis]

Same has happened here with mine. Since the 4.0 update mine is very slow. a crawl sometimes and like others apps that worked fine before now crash. It also takes an age to start up. Have updated it to 4.0.1 and still the same happens. Am wondering would Apple change it back to 3.1.3 if I took it to them in Liverpool. Anyone ever asked if they would do that?

[powissquare]

my 3G was the same. I saw a post on another forum
If you remove the spotlight search it can speed up

settings--> general --> home button -> select spotlight search and un-tick all the searches. I never really used spotlight, so it wasn't an issue for me.. It's a lot better now

[ba_baracus]

You can downgrade it fairly easily. Just done this to mine and it went smoothly. Much faster now.

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-...s-3-1-3-704705

[Thine Wonk]

Latest software on the iphone 3G. It is a bit of a joke to be honest and some apps like Mobile Allowance won't work on anything but 4OS, which is a piss take as it USED to work. So now I can't install that app unless I upgrade and if I upgrade my phone ends up being rubbish.

Thanks again Apple

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdk2c...layer_embedded

[simonb65]

Quote:

Originally Posted by psionic

I agree. The 3g is very sluggish with iOS 4.

OP have you tried a restore and setting it up as new then retransfer your stuff over, as opposed to restoring a backup? Also ensure your memory is not too full as mentioned above.

I'm not an Iphone owner but a guy I work with had huge problems with his 3g on OS 4.0 and did exactly this and it now runs better than before.

[ForestChav]

My 3GS is fine with ios4 but then the 3G is a lot slower, so ... personally i wouldnt have updated if i had a 3g. and im still on 4.0.

[Steve™]

Quote:

Originally Posted by *HB*

I can't help but wonder if this isn't deliberate to make me buy the new iPhone 4? Basically since I last updated it about a week ago it's gone very slow, crashes, apps closedown for no reason, signal has gone from great to "no service" in loads of places, it's just ruined it completely. Has anyone else had this happen to their 'old' iPhone and is there anything I can do except buy the new one or get something different altogether?

Would not recommend the iPhone 4 really, not unless you plan to use a glove with it or dont mind being charged hundreds of pounds for data used abroad

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian Kane

To be honest it's made my 3GS a nightmare. Dropping calls even though i've got 1 bar (we all know that's because they extended the db range for the iPhone 4 bars and implemented it on the 3GS for some reason), Youtube won't play a clip fully, the lag is horrendous & having to manually retrieve my email instead of it fetching/pushing (no biggie but it's a feature, it 'should' work). I could probably list more but they're the main ones pissing me off.

My iPhone 4 will be here on Thursday. I can only hope it performs better all round (bar the obvious issue) or it'll be going back.

Its better in the sense it has glass casing and facetime. Other than that its the worst device they have made so far...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thine Wonk

Latest software on the iphone 3G. It is a bit of a joke to be honest and some apps like Mobile Allowance won't work on anything but 4OS, which is a piss take as it USED to work. So now I can't install that app unless I upgrade and if I upgrade my phone ends up being rubbish.

Thanks again Apple

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdk2c...layer_embedded

Thats why I ditched my iPhone. Had an update and after that half of my apps wouldnt run/open and half of them were very slow....get an Android, its much faster.

[*HB*]

Quote:

Originally Posted by john_locke

You have done the 4.0.1 update as well, yes?

Yes I did.

Quote:

Originally Posted by psionic

I agree. The 3g is very sluggish with iOS 4.

OP have you tried a restore and setting it up as new then retransfer your stuff over, as opposed to restoring a backup? Also ensure your memory is not too full as mentioned above.

No, I will try this if it's supposed to help. It is fairly full, using about 14 of the 16GB allowance, is this a problem?

Quote:

Originally Posted by powissquare

my 3G was the same. I saw a post on another forum
If you remove the spotlight search it can speed up

settings--> general --> home button -> select spotlight search and un-tick all the searches. I never really used spotlight, so it wasn't an issue for me.. It's a lot better now

Thank you I will try that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ba_baracus

You can downgrade it fairly easily. Just done this to mine and it went smoothly. Much faster now.

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-...s-3-1-3-704705

I may look into that, thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve™

Would not recommend the iPhone 4 really, not unless you plan to use a glove with it or dont mind being charged hundreds of pounds for data used abroad



Its better in the sense it has glass casing and facetime. Other than that its the worst device they have made so far...



Thats why I ditched my iPhone. Had an update and after that half of my apps wouldnt run/open and half of them were very slow....get an Android, its much faster.

I'm not even tempted by a new iPhone. This one was working wonderfully well until the updated firmware. It's as if they've deliberately crippled it to force me to get their latest product and there's no way I'd do that!!

[Gormond]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve™

Would not recommend the iPhone 4 really, not unless you plan to use a glove with it or dont mind being charged hundreds of pounds for data used abroad

Wow what the biggest load of shite!

You get an extra 9db drop that is complete fixed by a case which is given free...

[ba_baracus]

I am actually quite glad I have gone back to 3.1.3.

The whole thing is so more reponsive. Apps are opening faster, the phone unlocks quicker and there is no lag when writing SMS as there was on 4.0 / 4.0.1.

The whole thing just feels so much snappier again, and just as I remember it.

The only thing I am going to miss about iOS 4 is the consolidated inbox in Mail, but the speed increase alone is worth giving this up for.

Regarding the poster who said his mate did a clean install of 4.0... I actually did that too a few weeks back, and did manage to convince myself that it was better than ever. But I now think I was just kidding myself really. Afer going back to 3.1.3 it was clearly nothing of the sort.

Perhaps in the future I will upgrade again if Apple manage to sort out the speed issues, but for the time being I am sticking with 3.1.3

[ForestChav]

Quote:

Originally Posted by *HB*

I'm not even tempted by a new iPhone. This one was working wonderfully well until the updated firmware. It's as if they've deliberately crippled it to force me to get their latest product and there's no way I'd do that!!

Nvidia gave me that attitude with their nforce3 vista drivers, basically they said they won't fix it, change platform (the board had vista logos and all sorts, and i bought the board with an upgrade AND vista). So I did, I bought an ATI graphics card and a VIA chipset board and haven't ever bought anything Nvidia again and probably never will.

[Steve™]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gormond

Wow what the biggest load of shite!

You get an extra 9db drop that is complete fixed by a case which is given free...

Sorry you are wrong. Get as aggressive as you like, its you who is, as you put it, talking shite.

In the tests conducted by Consumer Reports the drop was significantly more than 9dB, as much as 20db actually

And who wants to shell out £500 and then wrap the whole thing is a case? Surely part of the appeal is the tactile nature of the casing?

Surely, its normal to be able to receive mobile reception without putting your device in a case?

And surely, the act of having to put it in a case to rectify this illustrates the flaw exists?

And why have Apple suddenly decided that the white iPhone 4 wont be released until later in the year, because it as they say "continued to be more challenging to manufacture that we originally expected."

Are we to assume Apple are delaying it because they are applying some kind of non-conductive coating to the white iPhone to avoid another media sh1t storm when that iPhone is released??!

Whats the betting.....

[smudgerpugs]

My 3GS works fine on 4.01

[Gormond]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve™

Sorry you are wrong. Get as aggressive as you like, its you who is, as you put it, talking shite.

In the tests conducted by Consumer Reports the drop was significantly more than 9dB, as much as 20db actually

And who wants to shell out £500 and then wrap the whole thing is a case? Surely part of the appeal is the tactile nature of the casing?

Surely, its normal to be able to receive mobile reception without putting your device in a case?

And surely, the act of having to put it in a case to rectify this illustrates the flaw exists?

And why have Apple suddenly decided that the white iPhone 4 wont be released until later in the year, because it as they say "continued to be more challenging to manufacture that we originally expected."

Are we to assume Apple are delaying it because they are applying some kind of non-conductive coating to the white iPhone to avoid another media sh1t storm when that iPhone is released??!

Whats the betting.....

For starters the 20db drop includes standard autention that every phone gets. The iPhone gets a 9db detuning effect that is unique to the iPhone 4 on a phone that has a 70db scale which itself is better than most phones. The anand article explains all this.

For me what makes the iPhone great is iOS and it still looks and feels fantastic in a bumper. Most ppl that spend 500 quid on z phone will protect it in some way from drops anyway and the fact that a case is free is a plus.

Also I may add if you currently get 3 bars with the iPhone 3G you won't drop a call even if you use the death grip. It's only an issue in a weak signal area which most of us do not.

[ForestChav]

I will defend unjustified criticism and I do like the iphone a lot, but I don't see how a free bumper is a fix.

[russellelly]

Mine is noticeable slower under 4.0.1 than 3.x. However, since I've updated some of my apps to 4.x only versions I'll lose them if I 'downgrade'.

I'm hoping 4.1 may improve things a little.

[Anika Hanson]

When I still had my 3G I didn't even bother to
Upgrade to 4.0 in the end. Initially I tried, it took me the best part of a day and I only got as far as attempting to back up the phone. Then I came online and saw that the update was bricking 3G's so I immediately stopped the upgrade. If I still had the phone now I would have kept it on the old software at all costs.

[IvanIV]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve™

And why have Apple suddenly decided that the white iPhone 4 wont be released until later in the year, because it as they say "continued to be more challenging to manufacture that we originally expected."

Because a high-end white paint, only one suitable for the lifestyle that comes with the phone is very hard to get? You wouldn't want just any ordinary white.

[Steve™]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gormond

For starters the 20db drop includes standard autention that every phone gets. The iPhone gets a 9db detuning effect that is unique to the iPhone 4 on a phone that has a 70db scale which itself is better than most phones. The anand article explains all this.

For me what makes the iPhone great is iOS and it still looks and feels fantastic in a bumper. Most ppl that spend 500 quid on z phone will protect it in some way from drops anyway and the fact that a case is free is a plus.

Also I may add if you currently get 3 bars with the iPhone 3G you won't drop a call even if you use the death grip. It's only an issue in a weak signal area which most of us do not.

No a 20db drop is experienced when touching the phones lower left corner. It was carried out in a isolated chamber by Consumer Reports...I did post a link to the video if you would like to watch it.

20db fyi is massive.

And the anand article was hugely flawed in that he didnt use any lab gear or an isolated room, unlike CR.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForestChav

I will defend unjustified criticism and I do like the iphone a lot, but I don't see how a free bumper is a fix.

Its not a fix, its a patch....on a £500 device

Quote:

Originally Posted by IvanIV

Because a high-end white paint, only one suitable for the lifestyle that comes with the phone is very hard to get? You wouldn't want just any ordinary white.

Ahhh I see...special paint. Yes it all makes sense now. Suddenly the "special paint" is unavailable and manufacturing grinds to a halt...coincidentally around the same time as AntennaGate