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Hi folks, just had a look at this offer for 2/8/10, does anyone have any one have any opinion's about this camera, its says' it can film in HD but will you need a special card?
Thanks in advance http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg//...fferdate=&ar2= |
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What do you mean by special card. Like a lot of these budget HD camcorders i suspect that this will be rubbish it will have a decent hi-def CCD but everything optics and processor will be rubbish expect web cam type movies.
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The camera records onto a SD card ( it comes with a 2Gb card) you can also transfer video to computer if you burn it as data cd or dvd if your dvd or blue ray can play back an avi file you wil get HD video playback ! if not you have to connect camera to TV and play back from camera which comes with a HDMI cable. ( if you burn it as as DVD it will down convert to SD)
Lidl do not sell rubbish every thing I have bought from them is very good qaulity ![]() I will be getting this camera on Monday also |
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The SD card means "Secure Digital" and does not mean standard definition. You can record onto an SD card in HD, no problem.
I have found an "unboxing" on Youtube, it's a German person doing the unboxing. Looks like a nice thing for £70. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR8leu875Cg |
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but you cant record HD to DVD as disc formats to DVDs max resaloution 480i this is why you need to burn the file to using Data DVD or data CD with nero burning rom or other program this way you do not loose resolution but your DVD player needs to be able to read .avi files and you need a HDMI connection to the TV. the Phillips Blue ray player plays back .avi files so you can get HD from a CD rom burnt as a data disc
if not you can play back on HD from the SD card directly from the camera |
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Thanks for the replies guys, but I'm getting a bit over run with the tech side of this, I have a Panny TX-L37u10B, ok, its a budget model but will I be able to play this camera back through this set, I know some of the functions are not there, I'm at work just now.
I think it mentioned a 12GB recording capacity ( the camera that is) does this mean it has a in built facility for this. When you mentioned burn, does that mean I woyuld have to load my PC with software and then down load to the lappy and burn to disk, the PC is a 2 and half yr old model with Vista, sorry if the is a bit muddled as I'm trying to understand this as I go along. Thanks in advance to you all |
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the camera has a small inbuilt memory which you can use, also the SD card the camera connects via HDMI to your TV so you can play back video ok
if you want to archive your recordings so you can play them back in HD you need to to burn them to CD or DVD as a data disc and your DVD or Blue ray needs to be able to read .avi files if you burn it as a DVD you will louse resolution the other alternative is to keep buying SD cards for storage which is more expensive |
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Your TV is HD and has an HDMI socket and so does the camcorder so I would think it would work.
I would think the camcorder would put out it's HD recording onto it's HDMI socket, what would be the point of having an HDMI socket otherwise? But I don't know for sure what features this budget model has. The thing to do would be to get an instruction manual from somewhere. The camcorder is made by Silvercrest I think but I don't know the model. As regards recording capacity, the Lidl advert does not mention it. I would think it would only be limited by the SD memory card that is in the machine. I think a 2GB SD card would give around 13minutes in HD, not sure about that. Obviously standard definition would be a lot more minutes on 2GB 16GB cards cost around £16 but best see the performance of the camcorder before spending more money. ----------------- To save any HD video would mean saving it as DATA onto a DVD-R. Unless you have a BluRay recorder of course. But that DVD-R would not play in a DVD-Player, it would only play on a computer. I'm sure the camcorder would also have a standard definition mode as well as HD. And any HD video can also be converted to standard definition video, that can then be turned into a DVD Video with the right software and played on any DVD player. ------------- To save these videos you would need to get the video onto your laptop. Either take the SD card out of the camcorder and place it into your laptop (if it has an SD card slot of course) Alternatively I'm sure the USB lead included with the camcorder will allow transfer of the video (either standard def or HD) Once the video is on your laptop you can do things to it. Edit it. Downscale HD to standard def if you want. And then create a DVD that will play on ordinary DVD players that you find under TVs. You can also just save the video as DATA to a blank DVD-R for safekeeping. That would only play on a computer. |
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If this camcorder records standard AVCHD m2ts files you can record up to about 40 mins of 1080i onto a standard dual layer blank DVD. It wil play back on a pS3 and more recent Sony and Panasonic bluray players. (May be others)
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The lens looks really tiny and small on that cam.
It might be good for youtube though. On a cam its better to go for the biggest lens. |
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If you look on YouTube for video from similar low-end HD cams you see that they are actually quite good. At least with bright light.
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If this camcorder records standard AVCHD m2ts files you can record up to about 40 mins of 1080i onto a standard dual layer blank DVD. It wil play back on a pS3 and more recent Sony and Panasonic bluray players. (May be others)
it then plays it back in HD if you record it as either a video cd or DVD the file will be dounconverted to standard definition |
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Thanks guys for the input, I'll read all the posts again so that I understand therm, I'll probably just get it then learn as i go.
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As regards recording capacity, the Lidl advert does not mention it. I would think it would only be limited by the SD memory card that is in the machine. I think a 2GB SD card would give around 13minutes in HD, not sure about that. Obviously standard definition would be a lot more minutes on 2GB
16GB cards cost around £16 but best see the performance of the camcorder before spending more money. Hi there, I've just been reading about SD cards and there seems to classes fro them as i understand it the higher the class the faster it performs and you have to marry it the the device its intended to be used for, does anyone know the class for the Lidl's silvercrest offer? Thanks in advance |
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with the current hd camcorder I have ( vivitar) I can get 1 hour of HD @720p on a 2GB SD card
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Be aware that the advert for this product doesn't mention whether it is capable of reading/writing to SDHC cards and you might find you're limited to only 2GB capacity.
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got the camera from lidl in Dundee it is very good but it is the standard SD card max card 8 Gb can be used , camera comes with 2Gb card
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Thanks for the heads up, I went off the idea towards the end of last week, as the wife has a nano and I wasn't sure about the card situation but now that i know it can take 8GB I might go in by tonight but I think there won't be any left.
Thanks again |
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Looks good to me. As others have said the quality of these budget HD cams are getting better and better.
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It is certainly cheap. As to whether it is also cheerful, I think that will depend on what use you intend for it.
There are plenty of HiDef cameras in this price range, and for not too much more cash you might get one with a much better specification. I would personally avoid a camera with a tiny lens, pretending to have a bigger one! I bought an excellent new/refurbished full HD Panasonic on ebay for about £160. It has a sophisticated Optical Image Stabiliser which works very well and all-but eliminates wobbles, even at high zoom. This Lidl camera has hardly any zoom, and most of it is "digital", which means the picture will not be real HD when it is used, and it seems to have no stabilisation at all. My Panasonic camera also uses SDHC cards, recording AVCHD files, which can be edited on the PC and written to disc in the same format. This will play on Panasonic Blu-Ray players with stunning picture quality.. If you just want to record "snapshot" movies and play them on your TV I am sure you will be very happy with this camera. If you are more ambitious you probably won't be. |
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got the camera from lidl in Dundee it is very good but it is the standard SD card max card 8 Gb can be used , camera comes with 2Gb card
Yeh the lense looks small but don't know what the effect will be. Its certinley compact. Thanks in advance |
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Well I went in past my local store and got me one of them, a note fell out of the instruction booklet saying 'there was a mistake with the technical spec's and the camera uses AVI format, what is this and how does it effect how we use this camera. it also says on the box it can record up to 8GB on a SDHC card is this the class 2 card i've been reading about?
Yeh the lense looks small but don't know what the effect will be. Its certinley compact. Thanks in advance Hi Robert law, can you confirm that you can use SDHC cards with this model |
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. it also says on the box it can record up to 8GB on a SDHC card is this the class 2 card i've been reading about?
Thanks in advance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sd_card#Speeds SDHC are cards that will enable capacity of greater than 2GB and less than 32GB. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sd_card#SDHC |
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Hi Robert law, can you confirm that you can use SDHC cards with this model
no it looks like an ordinary SD card and there is no mention of SDHC in the book sorry for delay in reply as have been away for a few days the camera produces excelent pictures at 1080p and sound is also very good quality allthough mono It records an .avi file when I burnt this on to a CD-r the phillips blue ray would not play it back ( I got codec not recognised and stuttering video with out sound) the softwear that comes with the camera as an option to burn the file as an advance codec high definition file which works on some blue ray players , it took ages to burn hours and wont work in either computer or philips blue ray I do not no if its a problem that my computer is not good anuf to handel this. this is bad news because it means if I copy to a dvd I loose the HD and is down converted to DVD quality ![]() it means I can only keep recordings in HD on SD cards and play back from camera |
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The camera duse have image stabilisation and produces excellent pictures Quote:
It is certainly cheap. As to whether it is also cheerful, I think that will depend on what use you intend for it.
There are plenty of HiDef cameras in this price range, and for not too much more cash you might get one with a much better specification. I would personally avoid a camera with a tiny lens, pretending to have a bigger one! I bought an excellent new/refurbished full HD Panasonic on ebay for about £160. It has a sophisticated Optical Image Stabiliser which works very well and all-but eliminates wobbles, even at high zoom. This Lidl camera has hardly any zoom, and most of it is "digital", which means the picture will not be real HD when it is used, and it seems to have no stabilisation at all. My Panasonic camera also uses SDHC cards, recording AVCHD files, which can be edited on the PC and written to disc in the same format. This will play on Panasonic Blu-Ray players with stunning picture quality.. If you just want to record "snapshot" movies and play them on your TV I am sure you will be very happy with this camera. If you are more ambitious you probably won't be. |
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