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Old 01-08-2010, 15:07
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I strongly disagree with the hatred shown towards the host of the most popular television show in Britain in the sixties and seventies. Obviously he did get bigger than his own show near the end and his parenting skills were hopeless- though blame this on the fact his own parents treated him like rubbish and his father saw him as a cash cow- but I can't see why people hate him so much. Anyone who appeared on Opportunity Knocks or Double Your Money said what a pleasant and considerate host he was and friends say the way he was treated by the media in retirement was a disgrace. I tend to agree.
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Old 01-08-2010, 17:04
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I strongly disagree with the hatred shown towards the host of the most popular television show in Britain in the sixties and seventies. Obviously he did get bigger than his own show near the end and his parenting skills were hopeless- though blame this on the fact his own parents treated him like rubbish and his father saw him as a cash cow- but I can't see why people hate him so much. Anyone who appeared on Opportunity Knocks or Double Your Money said what a pleasant and considerate host he was and friends say the way he was treated by the media in retirement was a disgrace. I tend to agree.
Always came across as a genial friendly uncle. His looks to camera and the way he spoke as if he was talking to you . Not many people can do that. Dont care what celebs pvt lives are like. Use to love watching him as a kid.
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Old 01-08-2010, 18:06
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Always came across as a genial friendly uncle. His looks to camera and the way he spoke as if he was talking to you . Not many people can do that. Dont care what celebs pvt lives are like. Use to love watching him as a kid.
He was a fantastic host and must have done something right as his shows always pulled in at least 20 million viewers. My grandparents met him at Butlins and said how pleasant he was. Yes we know about his affairs and the fact he wasn't a good father- blame this on his upbringing by a callous, sex obsessed mother and a father who forced him onto the stage at an early age- but he was very pleasant to people int he street and on his show. Also he detested snobbery and wasn't a racist.
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Old 01-08-2010, 18:58
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Shrek's a monster. And he's also green.
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Old 01-08-2010, 19:07
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I didn't even know he'd been described as a monster. I always thought he was great.

Didn't his son do a show with sooty and sweep as well?
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Old 01-08-2010, 19:29
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Blame the fact that he was a rubbish father on his own parents?, no, if he was a rubbish father, i'd blame him.
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Old 01-08-2010, 19:38
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He was a fantastic host and must have done something right as his shows always pulled in at least 20 million viewers. My grandparents met him at Butlins and said how pleasant he was. Yes we know about his affairs and the fact he wasn't a good father- blame this on his upbringing by a callous, sex obsessed mother and a father who forced him onto the stage at an early age- but he was very pleasant to people int he street and on his show. Also he detested snobbery and wasn't a racist.
As long as he wasn't a racist that makes everything alright. What a guy!!
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Old 01-08-2010, 19:40
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Sorry, but I'm afraid he was.

My Mum worked at Thames TV for a short time in the 1970s and she's told me the story of him throwing a tea-trolley against a wall because it was blocking a corridor he was trying to get down.

It is a shame though as he's someone who always seemed so nice on the telly.
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Old 01-08-2010, 22:38
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I didn't even know he'd been described as a monster. I always thought he was great.

Didn't his son do a show with sooty and sweep as well?
You're thinking of Harry and Matthew Corbett, who were totally devoid of any kind of scandal.
I know Hughie's reputation has been trashed a lot, and he did have quite a few faults, but I preferred him as a person to Jess Yates, who turned out to be a total hypocrite. You have to understand he had the upbringing from hell with his greedy, unpleasant father and his mother, who was a promiscuous moron who couldn't have cared less about him. His father only saw him as a way to make money.
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Old 01-08-2010, 23:27
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Sorry, but I'm afraid he was.

My Mum worked at Thames TV for a short time in the 1970s and she's told me the story of him throwing a tea-trolley against a wall because it was blocking a corridor he was trying to get down.

It is a shame though as he's someone who always seemed so nice on the telly.
I wonder how true that is, did you mother actually witness it or was it a handed down story? Did he in fact, annoyedly push a trolley out of his way, with a small clatter of crockery and by the time the story has been retold a few times, he's a monster who threw it against the wall.
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Old 02-08-2010, 00:12
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I wonder how true that is, did you mother actually witness it or was it a handed down story? Did he in fact, annoyedly push a trolley out of his way, with a small clatter of crockery and by the time the story has been retold a few times, he's a monster who threw it against the wall.
Maybe he clobbered Jeremy Isaacs with it when he said his show was finishing. He wasn't perfect by any means, but he was a far better host to me than someone like Simon Cowell, who is like a latter day Tony Hatch. Green never gave his opinions on the acts on his show, even if they were awful, and was always totally polite and let the public decide. You have to understand many of them had made massive journeys at huge personal expense( cars weren't as widespread in those days and wages were far lower), sometimes kids had travelled down with their families, adn the last thing you would want to hear is someone saying you were rubbish.
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Old 02-08-2010, 02:22
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I remember seeing Hughie Green - This is Your Life. They had a film clip of a 'business friend' chatting about their friendship and then he was brought into the studio to greet Hughie. It was weird. Hughie completely ignored this man as if he had no recollection. Obviously some bad blood there but strange to witness.
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Old 02-08-2010, 04:07
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Why are people rushing to his defence like this?

This was a carefully-researched and largely factual docu-drama. The man was a git.
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Old 02-08-2010, 08:32
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I didn't know about his upbringing, but he treated his daughter shamefully and his parents' attitude is no excuse for that. There are other people who have succeeded as human beings despite having had poor parents.
I actually think of him as a rather sad case. I was a boy when he hosted 'Double Your Money' and 'Opportunity Knocks'. Even then I could see that there was nothing genuine in the smile that he turned on for camera and contestants alike.
As someone else pointed out, he worked in an age when long distance travel was nowhere near as easy as it is now and a lot of the acts were, frankly, dreadful — but he treated them all courteously, which is something Simon Cowell doesn't do. On the other hand, 'The X factor' and 'Brtitain's Got Talent' have a better record in unearthing people with a chance of developing into genuine big names, which probably illustrates the greater professionalism underpinning the shows.
Overall, I preferred Michael Miles, who hosted the rival quiz show, 'Take Your Pick'.
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Old 02-08-2010, 08:33
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Why are people rushing to his defence like this?

This was a carefully-researched and largely factual docu-drama. The man was a git.
A lot of celebs maybe 'gits' in real life. Just when they die you hear about them. Brucie maybe. But he's great on telly.
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Old 02-08-2010, 13:10
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I didn't know about his upbringing, but he treated his daughter shamefully and his parents' attitude is no excuse for that. There are other people who have succeeded as human beings despite having had poor parents.
I actually think of him as a rather sad case. I was a boy when he hosted 'Double Your Money' and 'Opportunity Knocks'. Even then I could see that there was nothing genuine in the smile that he turned on for camera and contestants alike.
As someone else pointed out, he worked in an age when long distance travel was nowhere near as easy as it is now and a lot of the acts were, frankly, dreadful — but he treated them all courteously, which is something Simon Cowell doesn't do. On the other hand, 'The X factor' and 'Brtitain's Got Talent' have a better record in unearthing people with a chance of developing into genuine big names, which probably illustrates the greater professionalism underpinning the shows.
Overall, I preferred Michael Miles, who hosted the rival quiz show, 'Take Your Pick'.
Actually I'd say Simon Cowell is always courteous to the acts, he just doesn't mince his words when it comes to criticism, whereas Hughie Green took no part in judging acts so gave each one an equally unctious and uncritical introduction.

X Factor and BGT have tens of thousands of acts to choose from then carefully groom the chosen ones to stardom and/or boost Simon Cowell's bank balance. It isn't surprising they find the odd gem in amongst the mass of mediochre and downright awful acts. With Opportunity Knocks there wasn't the hype to generate a huge number of applicants and the acts didn't get any coaching or support either. Strangely enough though their success rate for creating long lasting stars was pretty good.
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Old 02-08-2010, 14:01
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When I was just a wee girl and my parents told me not to speak to strangers, I always pictured him as the creepy stranger I wasn't to talk to.
They say kids know these things.
He gave me the creepy vibe.
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Old 02-08-2010, 14:03
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I always enjoyed Opportunity Knocks and the great variety of acts that were on. I think they were on ITV and I wonder did they record any.
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Old 02-08-2010, 14:11
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Sorry, but I'm afraid he was.

My Mum worked at Thames TV for a short time in the 1970s and she's told me the story of him throwing a tea-trolley against a wall because it was blocking a corridor he was trying to get down.
Bloody hell, if there's one thing I won't stand for, it's violence against tea trollies.

What a monster!

I'll tell you someone who is the exact opposite. Lloyd Grossman, to see him the telly you would think he was a complete *£&*^&£", but apparently he is one of the nicest people you could ever meet. I know someone who met him in a lift once.
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Old 02-08-2010, 14:19
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I'll tell you someone who is the exact opposite. Lloyd Grossman, to see him the telly you would think he was a complete *£&*^&£", but apparently he is one of the nicest people you could ever meet. I know someone who met him in a lift once.
I met him once and he is very short. I sort of expected Lloyd to be tall and gangly.
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Old 02-08-2010, 14:25
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A friend of mine worked on his show The Sky's The Limit at Yorkshire TV in the 70's
Always remember her saying Hughie and producer Jess Yates were always at each other's throats.
Now we know the reason for that.
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Old 02-08-2010, 18:27
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I always enjoyed Opportunity Knocks and the great variety of acts that were on. I think they were on ITV and I wonder did they record any.
It was a Thames show and they did release LPs of each series winners at the end of each series. My grandparents had several LPs, including one where Hughie Green does a sort of gang show revue at Butlins. OK it was rather cheesy, now then folks, a big hand for Uncle Bob and his music, but worked and Woolworths always reported big sales for these LPs.
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Old 02-08-2010, 20:11
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I wonder how true that is, did you mother actually witness it or was it a handed down story? Did he in fact, annoyedly push a trolley out of his way, with a small clatter of crockery and by the time the story has been retold a few times, he's a monster who threw it against the wall.
I believe she was at, or near the tea trolley in question at the time.....I shall check this for you to avoid any necessity for pendantry

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Bloody hell, if there's one thing I won't stand for, it's violence against tea trollies.

What a monster!
I quite agree - tea trolley violence is one of the menances in society that's gone on far too long
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Old 02-08-2010, 21:23
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I would love to know when the Scofe is kicked off This Morning when all the people go running to the press about him and saying how awful he was. Same as the Cowell haters are just waiting to demolish him when The X Factor is taken off.
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Old 02-08-2010, 21:38
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Even as a fairly young innocent child I could tell that when somebody said " I mean that most sincerely folks", they usually didn't.
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