It's cameron all over again

Why did they NOT SHOW Vanessas comments regarding michelle ????? "I will make her the most hated woman in Britain"

They're desperately trying keep the nasty %^&% in by refusing to air the footage which clearly shows everyone the mean bitch she really is.

Every year they do this and only the minority who read these forums and watch the live feeds know the truth.

They only have so much time to get everything in...no matter what is shown they are going to miss stuff out...and if this was shown then someone else would be disgusted that something else wasnt shown...it is a no win situation...

Shell saying "I think you should live like the next 2 days are your last" is more interesting/controversial than Vanessa seething over michelle "I will make her the most hated woman in Britain" ?

Of course you don't. You'll probably disagree though as that's your style. (I guess Vanessa is this years Jade for you)

Calm down, she'll be evicted Friday and you'll all get your pound of flesh don't worry

But will Michelle get her pound of flesh?

So what did Cameron do last year that I didn't see on TV?

They have plenty of time to squeeze in the juicy stuff.

You just cut a few seconds here and there off other less important bits.

Sometimes they show somebody brushing their teeth, or waking up,..they can easily edit things in away to show ALL relevant things.

Something as important as Vanessa's feelings of hatred toward Michelle MUST be shown as a priority over some of the trivial mundane stuff.

that would only improve my view of Vanessa if i saw that... her problem is blandness so any show of excess hatred for Michelle would be a GOOD thing.

(As Tony Hancock would nearly say) a pound?! I thought she wasn't interested in Victor anymore.

Loads - probably went down the shops, had a cup of tea in his flat

It was the general difference in portrayal between what viewers saw 'unedited' on E4 and the web, and the half hour show on four.

On Channel 4 he was shown to be an all-round-lovin'-christian-slightly-naive-but-very-happy-camper.
On E4, there were various comments that were extremely offensive towards minority groups. His 'sweet and shy' attitude was also shown to be far, far from the truth, with his regular bitching sessions about other HMs, etc.

Bit of a 'nutshell' summary, but you get the idea.

D'you think we need a Digital Spy BB-Forum FAQ, because people always seem to want to know about this sort of thing...

Was god loving Cameron a mean bitch too? Wow CH4 really did a job on us public if Vanessa is the same as Cameron. I thought he loved all creatures great and small and its turns out hes a serial bigamist,who dresses in womens clothes at the weekend who swears like an angry docker. CH4 really turned the tide for him by only showing him being a god fearing, wet lettuce of a man and not the truth.
Look over there............... conspiracy theory!

he murdered pregnant women and ate their unborn babies. something like that anyway IIRC.

Iain

Repulsive and patronising at the same time. Ugh.

Agreed, and that's my acceptance as someone who's a Dan supporter given in the knowledge that he may have benefited had that footage been shown...allowing that the showing of that footage would have been more vital to Dan it's strange that it's the Michelle fans who are the most concerned. Yet again, given any defence of Michelle appears to rely on a negative about another HM (preferably her "arch-enemy"), perhaps it's not so surprising.

Furthermore, i suspect that BB were at pains, tonight, to cram in as much highlight footage of events that may well be a talking point (in the House) with the return of Emma and Michelle. Given that Emma and Michelle missed that particular part of the Van, Shell, Jason and Dan (on the sidelines) convo then it's not within Emma and Michelle's lexicon for potential usage. N.B. this is not said to incite a 'the sound was cut deliberately' debate...simply as a possible rationale for BB choosing not to highlight it.

but also, and perhaps most importantly, ironic...

do you even know what patronising means?

Iain

Yes I do. You've just done it. Most importantly, your post above was not ironic, but completely unfunny.

But do please feel free to carry on sneering.

Dam right, venessa will be sent back to south africa with a litre of water in hand, to the land of no food fights....

well, it kinda was ironic - because, of course, he didn't do any such thing. thats irony.

the *do you know what patronising even means?* is a comedy line to use when someone calls you patronising - its kinda rhetorical tho', and not intended to be personal.

Iain

Oh, what a wicked sense of humour you have. :yawn:

Blue Nun, i see from your 'join date' that you weren't a DS:BBer for BB4. I believe, although i'm sure Iain will correct me if wrong, that he was being ironic about the incredible levels of vitriol and accusation levelled towards Cameron on this forum. Personally, i couldn't stand him as an HM (and probably would dislike him as a rl person too) but the extent to which some people pilloried him was unbelievable...Iain may have been slightly hyperbolic for the sake of wit...but, for some, Cameron WAS alledgedly (but they knew it for a fact) EVIL AND SATANIC enough to commit such acts.

I hope you don't think the above patronizing...i'm just trying for context...not something that's always easy on DS:BB

<edit> alternatively hash it out between the two of you ...the light relief of that offered as a foil to the BB5 wrangles may be refreshing

On the contrary, I've read a number of BB4-related threads here and see no problem with any of the anti-Cameron comments.

I can't believe that anyone would be so stupid as to perceive that people really think that Cameron was "evil" purely because they express their dislike in an emotive, vehement manner. It becomes even more ludicrous since the BB format legitimises dislike of contestants through the negative voting system. If someone does have a problem with the way in which some FMs express themselves, it might be an idea not to read those posts.

And I have to say that based on my own viewing of BB4, Cameron WAS a pretty nasty piece of work.

Iain would do himself a lot of favours if he didn't constantly give the impression that he's looking down his nose at people all the time.

oh lordy me...and i can't concieve of anyone being so caught up in their own MISINTERPRETATION (deliberate/contrived/obscurant or otherwise) of others' posts as to "believe that anyone [posting for the purpose of wit, hyperbole and irony] would be so stupid as to percieve that...[yadda, yadda, yadda]..."...I'm simply sorry that i sought to reasonably enlighten you as to the basis for the depth/context of wit concerned; clearly you were fixiated on blind oppositionalism/contrariness for it's own sake...not necessarily unusual on DS:BB and strangely familiar :yawn:

While i do not disagree with your statement re: "negative voting", it was unnecessary in a 'teach grandmother to suck eggs' way - perhaps i ought to consider that patronizing but i choose not to (make of that what you will).

In regard to your obvious determination to express a "problem" with Iain's posts, may i suggest that you take your own advice and choose "not to read them". Given i doubt you'll pay little reasoned mind to this post (your call) perhaps you should dismiss it also; afterall, if you have a "problem" with my manner of "express[ion]" then i'll live not being on your reading-list

While i defend your right to your "impression", however grossly and deliberately inaccurate i believe it to be, i would suggest you'd favour yourself by allowing that it is subjective and ought to be tempered and qualified as such. Believe me when i say i have been a great pains, throughout, to temper and allow for the subjectivity inherent in my 'impression' of you.

Crumbs, isn't it lovely to have some light relief with those who seem 'familiar faces' during the angst that is the House

Don't worry the mos reliable poll in bb history says shes out so calm down dear it's just a reality tv show.

no - really - people did seem to think that. *vitriol* is barely strong enough a word.

case in point - despite Victor's aggressive posturing towards Emma last night, people have posted along the lines of *yes - but i don't think he was going to actually hit her*

rewind 12 months....Cameron makes obviously non-serious remark about a windpipe, and he's castigated as a violent mysoginistic thug who regularly beats up women.

reasonable? very possibly not i'd say. but thats just me.


people reading my posts could do themselves a big favour by not thinking i'm looking down anybody's nose. all i ever do is call things as i see them.

but lets be fair - all these *its a fix*, *if kitten wasn't a mole, then this proves that ahmed is*, *C4 didn't show 3 seconds of footage that I think they should have* posts do get a bit tiresome. so yes - i'll shout them down. although to be fair, i don't even shout them down at all - rather put that across reasonably and fairly.

i think some of you guys* get a bit too defensive sometimes.

Iain

* you guys is just an expression. i mention this because i used it before, and in a bout of oversensitive defensiveness, even that became A Big Issue.

PPS what did the slug on the corner shout? *big issue?*