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What the **** are Endemol thinking?
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TWserenity
17-06-2004
Sorry about the topic, but seriously, what are the producers thinking?

Vic back in??

Michelle is now having a break down.
Luxor
17-06-2004
I dont understand it myself. They surely cant expect them to interact normally tomorrow can they?
TWserenity
17-06-2004
He just took his microphone off.
Laggy
17-06-2004
Please get him out.

He is in no mental state and could really hurt someone.
chickenstew
17-06-2004
Every single one of the housemates will want Jason and Victor our because they are threatened by them.

Jason is that arse of the century I really want to smash my tv up when he is on it.
TWserenity
17-06-2004
I'm sorry, but;

a) This should not be back on live feed yet. Seriously.
b) Vic needs to be out of the house. NOW.
c) The producers need to speak to Michelle and Stuart. Jason probably needs to go.
homer911
17-06-2004
If vic and jason go then i would also get rid of emma and marco if what is being said is true, i am nit judging yet as i only saw what was on e4.
Pingu
17-06-2004
I saw Vanessa talking seriously about leaving earlier, Jason was almost certainly going to walk, Victor is probably going to be kicked out, Kitten's already kicked out... aint going too well, really...

I'm suprised they left the two most volatile members (Victor and Jay) with Michelle though.
Cha'mone!
17-06-2004
Victor is a disgrace. forget about what happened or not happened tonight. him boasting about bullying kids at school and spending the money he collected from bullied kids on 'nice things' made me feel really sick. he showed no remorse whatsoever. some kids have killed themselves because of being bullied and this son of a b*tch proudly tells the other HMs what a bully he was.

johnbuk
17-06-2004
The way I'm looking at it is simple. Emma and Marco are just trying to have a laugh, Jason and Victor have been soar about the girls return all night.

The physical violence is unacceptable, and it came from Victor and Jason first. Their still at it now, swearing and shouting. Victor tried to provoke another argument over the girls seeing the footage.

They are just not to be trusted in the house, they have shown physical threatning behaviour, end of story - they should go...

If they stay I'd be tuning out, there is no excuse for lack of action.
GonzoTheGreat
17-06-2004
I agree that the feed shouldn't really be on and they are yet again more concerned with the ratings than the people, viewers or channel. They have obviously talked to them all, Vic and Shell have both left the house and Vic has come back. They probably know what angle the producers would like for at least the next few hours and so you have "Stu & Michelle" (very safe and cuddly to get the show back on track) and apologetic smiley Victor so they can desperately try and keep him in and try the forgiveness angle.
jessicat
17-06-2004
Money is what endemol are thinking- when victor is inevitably nominated next week how many people will vote? I bet it will be a record breaker
chickenstew
17-06-2004
Originally Posted by homer911:
“If vic and jason go then i would also get rid of emma and marco if what is being said is true, i am nit judging yet as i only saw what was on e4.”

You really are abysmal.

putting comments on emma aside, are you really trying to tell us that you can compare taunting someone with physical violence and death threats?

I await your answer with very little expectations.
thenetworkbabe
17-06-2004
Originally Posted by GonzoTheGreat:
“I agree that the feed shouldn't really be on and they are yet again more concerned with the ratings than the people, viewers or channel. They have obviously talked to them all, Vic and Shell have both left the house and Vic has come back. They probably know what angle the producers would like for at least the next few hours and so you have "Stu & Michelle" (very safe and cuddly to get the show back on track) and apologetic smiley Victor so they can desperately try and keep him in and try the forgiveness angle.”

Frankly they are totally screwed. If they evict Victor they would have to mention violence - if they do that its assault and the police. If they conceal it half the house will walk and we all know they concealed it which itself could be an offence. If Shell and Vanesa go anyway the show is dead. If Victor does it again they could be sued to the heavens and if Shell came back and was made iill again that would be the end of the show too. Someone needs to get out of bed and make a big decision - it looks like no one has dared wake him.
thenetworkbabe
17-06-2004
Originally Posted by chickenstew:
“You really are abysmal.

putting comments on emma aside, are you really trying to tell us that you can compare taunting someone with physical violence and death threats?

I await your answer with very little expectations.”

The threads from people with live feeds say that Emma touched Victor first and threatened him - you don't have to do much to constitute assault and threatening is an eviction offence under the rules as I recall them. Of course Victor is awful and went too far but as the rules go Emma is on their evidence guilty too,
craigh
17-06-2004
She did a lot more than that unfortunately, promising to have Victor duffed up outside the house doesn't look good for Emma

no way can you ever have Emma and Vic in the same room again
homer911
17-06-2004
Originally Posted by chickenstew:
“You really are abysmal.

putting comments on emma aside, are you really trying to tell us that you can compare taunting someone with physical violence and death threats?

I await your answer with very little expectations.”

Ok i am bored now, i do not know the full story which is why i said " if what is being said is true" i will say it again "IF WHAT IS BEING SAID IS TRUE". I have read that emma attacked victor so that isan eviction, i do not know if it is true but if it is then its an eviction. For the last time to clarify i said "If what is being said is true.

please read the post carefully before replying as i have not passed judgement on nobody as noone really knows the truth and i am bored with you try to provoke an argument with me.
Cha'mone!
17-06-2004
as someone who e-mailed DS:BB said tonight:

' Paul: "Jason shows his true colours, he coulda shown himself to be a man, and talked Victor down, but threatening Marco. How idiotic are these people, I worry for them when they get outside. No matter how much a woman is abusing you, a man of Vic's size should never lift his hand to a woman. The calm and collected Vic has shown himself to be a thug, he should be removed from the house." '
Dawa
17-06-2004
Cha'monel, nobody should ever raise a hand to anyone.

As soon as physical violence even seems close, BB should have burst down the doors and pulled the offender out.
TWserenity
17-06-2004
Originally Posted by Dawa:
“Cha'monel, nobody should ever raise a hand to anyone.

As soon as physical violence even seems close, BB should have burst down the doors and pulled the offender out.”

Indeed - which begs the question as to why they didn't.

I mean, looking at the house, there's broken microphones, plates, a table overturned... We didn't actually see what happened fully - obviously it's a lot more than seen. Something tells me it wasn't emma who tipped over the table...
Harlequin
17-06-2004
Originally Posted by TWserenity:
“[...] Something tells me it wasn't emma who tipped over the table...”

It was Jason, apparently.

H.
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"Love your country, but never trust its government."
[Robert A. Heinlein]
thenetworkbabe
17-06-2004
Originally Posted by craigh:
“She did a lot more than that unfortunately, promising to have Victor duffed up outside the house doesn't look good for Emma

no way can you ever have Emma and Vic in the same room again”


Gets worse doesn't it. Thats breach of the peace, assault, battery, making threats or menaces, affray, vandalism and possibly a bit of racial taunting. Some poor sod of a C4 lawyer is going to have to decide if they can ignore that lot or if they will get done for conspiracy to pervert the course of Justice if they do. Maxine Carr's mother is just being tried for threats like that and of course she got done for the perverting the course charge. Heads rolling pretty soon I think. .
cybergirl3
17-06-2004
I feel marco,emma, jason and victor should all be evicted.
talbothays
17-06-2004
Originally Posted by craigh:
“She did a lot more than that unfortunately, promising to have Victor duffed up outside the house doesn't look good for Emma.
no way can you ever have Emma and Vic in the same room again”

Emma is a desperately unstable individual - I'm amazed she was allowed anywhere near the house in the first place, given the 'psychological assessments' we used to hear about in the build-up to earlier BB series.
jwire1977
17-06-2004
I thought I heard reference from SealBoy to NADIA overturning the table? (it was in the calm after the storm around 2am).
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