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Old 17-06-2004, 03:16
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Sorry about the topic, but seriously, what are the producers thinking?

Vic back in??

Michelle is now having a break down.
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Old 17-06-2004, 03:17
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I dont understand it myself. They surely cant expect them to interact normally tomorrow can they?
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Old 17-06-2004, 03:19
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He just took his microphone off.
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Old 17-06-2004, 03:20
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Please get him out.

He is in no mental state and could really hurt someone.
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Old 17-06-2004, 03:20
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Every single one of the housemates will want Jason and Victor our because they are threatened by them.

Jason is that arse of the century I really want to smash my tv up when he is on it.
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Old 17-06-2004, 03:23
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I'm sorry, but;

a) This should not be back on live feed yet. Seriously.
b) Vic needs to be out of the house. NOW.
c) The producers need to speak to Michelle and Stuart. Jason probably needs to go.
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Old 17-06-2004, 03:25
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If vic and jason go then i would also get rid of emma and marco if what is being said is true, i am nit judging yet as i only saw what was on e4.
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Old 17-06-2004, 03:28
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I saw Vanessa talking seriously about leaving earlier, Jason was almost certainly going to walk, Victor is probably going to be kicked out, Kitten's already kicked out... aint going too well, really...

I'm suprised they left the two most volatile members (Victor and Jay) with Michelle though.
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Old 17-06-2004, 03:28
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Victor is a disgrace. forget about what happened or not happened tonight. him boasting about bullying kids at school and spending the money he collected from bullied kids on 'nice things' made me feel really sick. he showed no remorse whatsoever. some kids have killed themselves because of being bullied and this son of a b*tch proudly tells the other HMs what a bully he was.

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Old 17-06-2004, 03:29
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The way I'm looking at it is simple. Emma and Marco are just trying to have a laugh, Jason and Victor have been soar about the girls return all night.

The physical violence is unacceptable, and it came from Victor and Jason first. Their still at it now, swearing and shouting. Victor tried to provoke another argument over the girls seeing the footage.

They are just not to be trusted in the house, they have shown physical threatning behaviour, end of story - they should go...

If they stay I'd be tuning out, there is no excuse for lack of action.
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Old 17-06-2004, 03:30
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I agree that the feed shouldn't really be on and they are yet again more concerned with the ratings than the people, viewers or channel. They have obviously talked to them all, Vic and Shell have both left the house and Vic has come back. They probably know what angle the producers would like for at least the next few hours and so you have "Stu & Michelle" (very safe and cuddly to get the show back on track) and apologetic smiley Victor so they can desperately try and keep him in and try the forgiveness angle.
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Old 17-06-2004, 03:31
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Money is what endemol are thinking- when victor is inevitably nominated next week how many people will vote? I bet it will be a record breaker
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Old 17-06-2004, 03:31
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Originally Posted by homer911
If vic and jason go then i would also get rid of emma and marco if what is being said is true, i am nit judging yet as i only saw what was on e4.
You really are abysmal.

putting comments on emma aside, are you really trying to tell us that you can compare taunting someone with physical violence and death threats?

I await your answer with very little expectations.
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Old 17-06-2004, 03:38
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Originally Posted by GonzoTheGreat
I agree that the feed shouldn't really be on and they are yet again more concerned with the ratings than the people, viewers or channel. They have obviously talked to them all, Vic and Shell have both left the house and Vic has come back. They probably know what angle the producers would like for at least the next few hours and so you have "Stu & Michelle" (very safe and cuddly to get the show back on track) and apologetic smiley Victor so they can desperately try and keep him in and try the forgiveness angle.
Frankly they are totally screwed. If they evict Victor they would have to mention violence - if they do that its assault and the police. If they conceal it half the house will walk and we all know they concealed it which itself could be an offence. If Shell and Vanesa go anyway the show is dead. If Victor does it again they could be sued to the heavens and if Shell came back and was made iill again that would be the end of the show too. Someone needs to get out of bed and make a big decision - it looks like no one has dared wake him.
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Old 17-06-2004, 03:44
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Originally Posted by chickenstew
You really are abysmal.

putting comments on emma aside, are you really trying to tell us that you can compare taunting someone with physical violence and death threats?

I await your answer with very little expectations.
The threads from people with live feeds say that Emma touched Victor first and threatened him - you don't have to do much to constitute assault and threatening is an eviction offence under the rules as I recall them. Of course Victor is awful and went too far but as the rules go Emma is on their evidence guilty too,
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Old 17-06-2004, 03:49
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She did a lot more than that unfortunately, promising to have Victor duffed up outside the house doesn't look good for Emma

no way can you ever have Emma and Vic in the same room again
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Old 17-06-2004, 03:50
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Originally Posted by chickenstew
You really are abysmal.

putting comments on emma aside, are you really trying to tell us that you can compare taunting someone with physical violence and death threats?

I await your answer with very little expectations.
Ok i am bored now, i do not know the full story which is why i said " if what is being said is true" i will say it again "IF WHAT IS BEING SAID IS TRUE". I have read that emma attacked victor so that isan eviction, i do not know if it is true but if it is then its an eviction. For the last time to clarify i said "If what is being said is true.

please read the post carefully before replying as i have not passed judgement on nobody as noone really knows the truth and i am bored with you try to provoke an argument with me.
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Old 17-06-2004, 04:00
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as someone who e-mailed DS:BB said tonight:

' Paul: "Jason shows his true colours, he coulda shown himself to be a man, and talked Victor down, but threatening Marco. How idiotic are these people, I worry for them when they get outside. No matter how much a woman is abusing you, a man of Vic's size should never lift his hand to a woman. The calm and collected Vic has shown himself to be a thug, he should be removed from the house." '
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Old 17-06-2004, 04:16
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Cha'monel, nobody should ever raise a hand to anyone.

As soon as physical violence even seems close, BB should have burst down the doors and pulled the offender out.
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Old 17-06-2004, 04:18
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Originally Posted by Dawa
Cha'monel, nobody should ever raise a hand to anyone.

As soon as physical violence even seems close, BB should have burst down the doors and pulled the offender out.
Indeed - which begs the question as to why they didn't.

I mean, looking at the house, there's broken microphones, plates, a table overturned... We didn't actually see what happened fully - obviously it's a lot more than seen. Something tells me it wasn't emma who tipped over the table...
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Old 17-06-2004, 06:08
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Originally Posted by TWserenity
[...] Something tells me it wasn't emma who tipped over the table...
It was Jason, apparently.

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Old 17-06-2004, 06:44
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Originally Posted by craigh
She did a lot more than that unfortunately, promising to have Victor duffed up outside the house doesn't look good for Emma

no way can you ever have Emma and Vic in the same room again

Gets worse doesn't it. Thats breach of the peace, assault, battery, making threats or menaces, affray, vandalism and possibly a bit of racial taunting. Some poor sod of a C4 lawyer is going to have to decide if they can ignore that lot or if they will get done for conspiracy to pervert the course of Justice if they do. Maxine Carr's mother is just being tried for threats like that and of course she got done for the perverting the course charge. Heads rolling pretty soon I think. .
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Old 17-06-2004, 07:07
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I feel marco,emma, jason and victor should all be evicted.
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Old 17-06-2004, 08:09
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Originally Posted by craigh
She did a lot more than that unfortunately, promising to have Victor duffed up outside the house doesn't look good for Emma.
no way can you ever have Emma and Vic in the same room again
Emma is a desperately unstable individual - I'm amazed she was allowed anywhere near the house in the first place, given the 'psychological assessments' we used to hear about in the build-up to earlier BB series.
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Old 17-06-2004, 08:13
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I thought I heard reference from SealBoy to NADIA overturning the table? (it was in the calm after the storm around 2am).
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