Having watched the events live last night and then read the account on this web site I for one will be complaining to Ofcom about how C4 are responding to the events.

To side with two aggressive males who threaten violence, including death, against the other housemates is abhorrent. To expect the other housemates to continue to live in a confined space with two such people is inhuman. A show 2 or 3 housemates down which people still respect would be far better than a show that is endorsing yob culture.

Emma might of provoked the situation, but that does not excuse Jason and Victor’s behavior.

Try to get a sense of perspective, please... J & V were not the only ones to make death threats, also.

Emma is the cause if she wasn't there it wouldn't of happened. Plus the fact that emma & Michelle have been given a massive advantage by being able to watch and listen to the others.

I'm not suprised Victor reacted when he had a mentally unstable person attacking him (yet again).

BB should show footage to the other HM's of the two bedsit witches and all there backstabbing and gameplans to even it up a bit.

Marco & Nadia also showed their true colours whooping and jumping with joy when the trouble had started.

spot on miles!

Yes its only a gameshow, but its also watched by real people and there are real people living in the house. It is not a video game.


I do not condone Emma, but violent behaviour is violent behaviour.

Emma also said "I'll f*ckin' kill ya, I'll f*ckin' kill ya"...

Both threatened to. Neither of them actually had the guts to do it (shame)...

Can you be completely clear on what ACTUALLY happened?

If not, then I think a 'wait and see' approach is called for.

Both of them very clearly threatened to kill each other. Both of them had to be physically restrained to prevent them from causing violence...

What exactly do you want to "wait and see"?

Why is a male giving a death threat worse than a female giving a death threat? They were just stupid, drunken allegations anyway. I've read many times that Victor was actually seen smiling at one stage. Emma once again proved herself to be a violent, mentally unstable woman.

Did Victor actually hit her?

If only. As far as I can tell from the footage and the sound there was some fairly spirited pushing and shoving...

Extremely believable threats of violence against individuals were certainly made and objects were thrown and broken. As for female v male violence, as I said violent behaviour is violent behaviour.

Yes it was drunken, but they are not going to stay sober for the next however many weeks.

Lets get this in perspective, haven't we all been at a party where things kicked off? everyone's a bit sheepish the next morning, embarrassed as they remember what they did etc, but in time they all have a nice cuppa and wait till it blows over. I think some of the guys are a bit silly, but not dangerously unstable. Last night was the best night of TV that BB ever pruduced, shame we didn't see much of it, but still entertaining. No-one got hurt, and although the tabloids will carry the story, the rest of the world will hardly even notice, it didn't even make the showbiz headlines on Sky news.

By the way Michelle to win

They're a pair of hotheads trapped in a stressful situation. Remember the first fight they had? How long did it take for them to i) Cool off and ii) Make up.

About 10 minutes?

FFS, they're adults (almost!), they should be warned now about their future conduct, have the chance to get along, if they can't manage that, THEN MAYBE we can start to think about ejection.

It's supposed to be 'warts and all'

You can't show bare knuckle boxing on TV either - for the same reasons,

Get rid of emma and michelle...that is the obvious solution...if they hadnt been brought back in then it wouldnt have happened...big brother was so good whilst they were in the bedsit...stuart stopped being shy and victor was getting even funnier...

...you cant blame victor and jason for this...emma and michelle provoked them and everyone has a breaking point...

You're comparing an illegal activity with a blazing row.

There's a fundamental difference, IMO.

Of course they shoulder some blame ...

Provocation doesn't excuse everything ... if you annoy me, I'm not allowed to slag you off in the forum, it's against the T&Cs.

Loving your style Mr Darcy!

Howay the Bass!

CO

Bap Squeezer...if i annoyed you in the manner that emma and michelle did then i would have been banned....and on a forum it is completely different to a real life setting...

Damn it - I really wish I'd seen this and you can bet C4 are going to edit it like f*** so that it's not even remotely juicy.

I am also rather pleased that this will overshadow Vanessa's long overdue eviction.


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Ok, maybe it wasn't the best analogy in the world ... but I maintain that provocation doesn't justify retaliation.

How about Beckham vs Simeone 1998? Better example?

Trophy Wife...there is a thread with some links in if you want to see some of what happened...

Bap Squeezer...everyone has a breaking point no matter who they are...if you keep pushing and pushing and pushing then obviously someone is going to break...you cant blame victor and jason by reacting like most people would...emma and michelle are in the wrong for intimidating them constantly...remove the cause (emma and michelle) and there will be no effect...perfect solution...

Now THERE'S an incident Vanessa would pronounce "sooo immature".


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Ta, chicken: unfortunately I'm at work and can't download that kinda stuff. Reading about it is just so tantalising, though!


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