This is car crash tv, pure and simple. How are people getting away with this behaviour when Kitten has already been kicked out for 'rule breaking'. It is just because these people are going at each other not making a fool out of BB as Kit did.

Victor has threatened and intimidated over and over again, he climbed on the roof, he took off his microphone.

He bragged about showing up at any reunion party with friends who "would not be from uni" and said that he would be getting a car of friends to drive up to Oldham. This is the same man who claims to have been 'second in command' in an organised crime gang. Why is he allowed to glamorise violence and crime for entertainment purposes? Jason might be a bully in the house but I doubt if he would go out of his way to 'follow up' outside of the house!! Victor should be throw into a cell on the evidence of his crimes - past , present and planned!

Surely it's all just 'trash talk'???

Yes actually that's not good enough for him. He should be strung up...yeah strung up but in public view ..yeah and then stoned to death..yeah ..

Why don't some people get some perspective . he's said a few things in a gameshow. FFS! That's all

My point is that he glamourises violence - that is my opinion and I managed to make it with resorting to pathetic sarcasism. Pity you couldn't

Miles, don't bellittle what juniper is saying. People who ignorantly think that mere words are just that are very wrong. Words are powerful, and victor is doing everything he can to intimidate, threaten and scare other housemates. Belive me (a law student) words can get you in a LOT of shit, and so far, victor has assaulted (both in the technical apprehension of immediate physical harm sense and in the battery sense) two housemates, and his WORDS may have had a further impact, i mean look at shell.

This guy is trash, full stop. Kitten was thrown out for 3 strikes, if we use similar standards, victor would have about 20, not ebcause of his stories about his gangstaness or ghetto mates, but for so many other things. All these stories should just aid the production team in their decision to kick him out, this is not a nice person, this is a hateable person.

I say we ban all violent films too. Pure evil.

Yeah and Emma's behaviour, words and violence are acceptable though???

Just been announced sky that the police will be investigating

I hope Emma is arrested for inciting racial hatred.

Victors criminal mentality?...which crime has he broken exactly?...have you got his criminal record?...

I agree, Emma has been threatening Victor behind his back all the time she was in teh bed-sit. She was calling him every time he was on screen

Emma is quite frankly SCUM. Her racism has no place in our society.

If i was black and emma was shouting racist abuse at me like that i would have reacted in the same way...there would be much less support for emma if she had shouted homophobic abuse at daniel or marco instead...its because its victor that everyone is defending emma...it is wrong...

So... pointing out someone's colour and using in a derrogative way is not ok, but doing the same thing using some other physical attribute, or their intelligence and bad-mouthing them because of it is ok?

I'm genuinely asking here btw, not being sarcastic, because, to me, all of the above is out of order, but Victor has constantly mouthed off about Nadia's jaw etc and called Emma thick, but we're not allowed to dislike him for it because that would be racist. I'd like to be able to understand this viewpoint.

LOL!

Hangings too good for them!! I remember in my day...

This coming froma person who's board name is "hackjaw" in honour of Victor calling Nadia this?

Hackjaw, stop trying to shift the blame to emma for ONE comment, at the end of teh day, Victor has done far more worng.

and as for Emma's "threats to vic", threatening to throw his PJs over the wall is hardly the same as threatening to turn up at the after show party and kick the sh!t out of her.

k.

Racism has no justification EVER.

Kahio...even if victor has done wrong...two wrongs do not make a right...emma has been racially abusive...the evidence is there...i think its time to accept that emma is not the 'angel' that you may have once thought she was...

are you for real? Are you saying that victor's rampage was in response to something emma said right before he went into the diary room? is he a clarevoyant?


drakaina: very articulate and itelligent post, and a very good point.

well she wasnt racist! She used a word which can be used for racism, there is a difference. This is rich rom someone with such a name...

k.

She used a racist word with definite implications THUS she is racist.

i don't think emma 'got' the implications. She's not very socially aware.
(Btw, why is it ok for black people to call each other n*****s? Is it because they are not meaning it in a racist way?)

Reclaiming the word from the racists that used it to belittle and discriminate against them.

but by creating a divide between people not allowed to use it and being allowed to use it themselves, isn't that just perpetuating the situation? It's very confusing. i wouldn't even think to use that word about someone, yet it's ok for them to use it, no wonder people get a bit confused!

But its also the way it's said, and the context it's said in. Emma used Victors race against him, in a derogatory context - therefore she was being racist.