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The Celebrity Illuminati Theory?
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lost-boy
10-08-2010
I hear a lot about it to do with Jay-Z and other celebrities can someone please explain to me in simple-ish terms ?
LoveBug.
10-08-2010
OMG how weird. This morning, I was searching about this online and some of the stuff is really scary. This video, for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBZiAk5A1JY seriously :|
and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atl2YCpYbDA

Scary for me.
edbospursfan
10-08-2010
There's no simple way of explaining it. People say different things about it and it's quite complicated. You have to do your research.
Red+Blooded
10-08-2010
It's a load of shit, put it that way.
MrSuper
10-08-2010
Oh god, here we go again!
kutox
10-08-2010
Originally Posted by LoveBug.:
“OMG how weird. This morning, I was searching about this online and some of the stuff is really scary. This video, for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBZiAk5A1JY seriously :|
and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atl2YCpYbDA

Scary for me.”

But isn't it a case of - if you look for something hard enough, you'll see it? Surely most of it is pure coincidence and manipulation by such videos to make you believe something that isn't really there.
Lily_2008
10-08-2010
Originally Posted by kutox:
“But isn't it a case of - if you look for something hard enough, you'll see it? Surely most of it is pure coincidence and manipulation by such videos to make you believe something that isn't really there.”

Exactly! This is my view on this every time it is brought up. If you look for something hard enough you will always see what you want to see. Seriously, if they were really part of the illuminati they would not publicise it like this!

I feel like artists put the imagery in just to generate hype for their videos now, there is no real reason behind it.

Umbrella can be about anything you want it to be about, this person has just interpreted it to mean she is being raped by the devil. Notice how some of the scenes in the video are just skipped out and they only use ones which fit with the 'story!' And most of the time backmasking is just BS, the amount of effort it would take to make sure the lyrics make sense both forwards and backwards mean it is almost impossible to do! And I can't hear anything in the Run This Town backmasking lol, it just sounds like nonsense to me.
MJ_lives
11-08-2010
OP, to cut a long story short, the Illuminati is a supposed cult that apparantly exists in the realm of showbiz, sending out subliminal messages to the public. Basically it's the devil trying to control the public via the world's favourite celebrities. These celebrites are usually people desperate for a break in music and superstardom, so they sell their soul to the devil, who makes them really famous, meaning they earn a shitload of money and success. But, the only catch is, they are the devil's forever, and the only way out is death. Musicians said to be a part of this cult are Jay-Z, Beyonce, Rihanna, Lady Gaga, Michael Jackson, The Killers, Kanye West, 30 Seconds To Mars, T.i. and Alicia Keys, to name a few.

It's all bullshit though. But it's certainly interesting, and entertaining how deluded, paranoid and gullible some people can be. They are just honest musicians trying to make a living out of their talent.

One of the interesting Rihanna theories that I have read about though is the one over the Chris Brown incident. Apparantly he only beat her to get the devil out of her, because he wanted the old Rihanna back, and was so anti-illuminati, hence why he was never really accepted in with the whole Jay-Z circle. I personally think it's because he was young and stupid and couldn't control his temper because he is a stupid prick
Carmen Queasy
11-08-2010
I bet it's just symbolism. Celebrities are always trying to get their opinion heard - they believe it's worth more than the average Joe's. Celebrities become "devils" because their lifestyle allows them to commit all of the 7 deadly sins and get away with it.
Lily_2008
11-08-2010
Originally Posted by MJ_lives:
“OP, to cut a long story short, the Illuminati is a supposed cult that apparantly exists in the realm of showbiz, sending out subliminal messages to the public. Basically it's the devil trying to control the public via the world's favourite celebrities. These celebrites are usually people desperate for a break in music and superstardom, so they sell their soul to the devil, who makes them really famous, meaning they earn a shitload of money and success. But, the only catch is, they are the devil's forever, and the only way out is death. Musicians said to be a part of this cult are Jay-Z, Beyonce, Rihanna, Lady Gaga, Michael Jackson, The Killers, Kanye West, 30 Seconds To Mars, T.i. and Alicia Keys, to name a few.”

Seriously I can't believe people actually go along with this..like even if you wanted to how on earth would you go about selling your soul to the devil?

Originally Posted by MJ_lives:
“One of the interesting Rihanna theories that I have read about though is the one over the Chris Brown incident. Apparantly he only beat her to get the devil out of her, because he wanted the old Rihanna back, and was so anti-illuminati, hence why he was never really accepted in with the whole Jay-Z circle. I personally think it's because he was young and stupid and couldn't control his temper because he is a stupid prick ”

Mmm I have heard that too. Sounds like a pretty crap excuse to me though, especially as he is linked to the illuminati himself through the songs Fallen Angel and Disturbia (which he wrote.) Despite the huge article on vigilant citizen though personally I have always interpreted Disturbia to be about addictions, rather than being possessed by the devil.
Squealer_Mahony
11-08-2010
The Devil?
I thought it was Mk Ultra.

C'mon people, get those theories out there!
MJ_lives
11-08-2010
Originally Posted by Lily_2008:
“Seriously I can't believe people actually go along with this..like even if you wanted to how on earth would you go about selling your soul to the devil?”

I know, it's such a stupid phenomenom. It'll blow over though. I think even Jay-Z is getting sick to death of it.

Originally Posted by Lily_2008:
“Mmm I have heard that too. Sounds like a pretty crap excuse to me though, especially as he is linked to the illuminati himself through the songs Fallen Angel and Disturbia (which he wrote.) Despite the huge article on vigilant citizen though personally I have always interpreted Disturbia to be about addictions, rather than being possessed by the devil.”

Chris Brown is just an idiot, that's all. It's people who fear the illuminatiwho are trying to make him look innocent. And I always thought Disturbia was about mental illness. That's how I kind of saw it. Though, it was probably just words that Chris could rhyme

Originally Posted by Squealer_Mahony:
“The Devil?
I thought it was Mk Ultra.

C'mon people, get those theories out there!”

MK Ultra is some seriously f**ked up business. Wasn't it proved to be true though? And that they were using LSD to help the project?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r02_A-3LOc
Lyrics are in the description.
performingmonk
11-08-2010
MkUltra was indeed a real project (basically involving testing drugs like LSD on people in the '50s and '60s) but there are so many conspiracy theories it's impossible to know how far down that dark road they went.
neel
11-08-2010
Originally Posted by Lily_2008:
“Seriously I can't believe people actually go along with this..like even if you wanted to how on earth would you go about selling your soul to the devil? ”

E-bay? Gumtree?



This thread is hilarious. Well done who ever came up with this theory. Assuming it is a joke.

If it is not. Time to take off the tin foil hat.
Nuartey1
11-08-2010
If you watch Lady GaGa's videos they are riddled with illuminati messages.
neel
11-08-2010
Originally Posted by Nuartey1:
“If you watch Lady GaGa's videos they are riddled with illuminati messages.”

The secret sinister aim of the iluminati being that we "just dance".

geerox
11-08-2010
The illuminati conspiracy in which people like George Bush, Barack Obama and nearly every other US President is alledgedly a part of is pushed by people like David Icke, He also states that Churchill and the royal family are leading members of 'the enlightened' when you read further into his 'theories' you soon realise what a nutjob he really is with his 'reptillian' master race from outer space taking over the world and how they secretly control us by implanting monitoring devices in us through vaccinations...the same vaccinations such as the flu jab that is intended to wipe humans out by poisoning us slowly. On the same hand though if you look how much this man and others have 'earned' through his many books and dvds at 30 quid a pop never mind the vast amount of money he makes at his 'conferences' where 1000s of gullible idiots line this mans pockets to hear him spout the biggest load of inconcievable rubbish.
TylerTango
11-08-2010
Originally Posted by Nuartey1:
“If you watch Lady GaGa's videos they are riddled with illuminati messages.”

In the video for 'The Face' it would be literally impossible to deny the Illuminati symbolism, but I would say she's more interested in dark imagery rather than being Lucifer incarnate
Tischlampe
11-08-2010
As soon as I saw Joe McElderry my first thought was, "Devil worshipper".
Tischlampe
11-08-2010
Also, did you know that soon after the Beatles got big, Paul McCartney was killed in a car accident and replaced with a look-a-like who has been posing as Paul ever since? And if you play the beginning part to one of The Beatles' tracks (the one that begins with a man's voice saying "Number nine" over and over), it's the fake Paul saying "turn me on dead man", and it's his MESSAGE to everyone that Paul McCartney is dead!!?

IT'S ALL TRUE!!
timperry26
11-08-2010
kanye has already sold his soul to the devil and now he wants to get out. The dangers involved could be deadly for him he could lose everything record deal, house or even be killed.

Remember when his mother died suddenly during surgery.
Listen to kanye west song power he wants to get out. Shame about MJ they eventually got him
Squealer_Mahony
11-08-2010
Originally Posted by performingmonk:
“MkUltra was indeed a real project (basically involving testing drugs like LSD on people in the '50s and '60s) but there are so many conspiracy theories it's impossible to know how far down that dark road they went.”

I knew it was a real thing but the idea that it is used today to control the likes of Aaliyah, Mariah Carey and Britney etc is a bit much for me
paulbrock
11-08-2010
Basically any representation of a pyramid, triangle, eye, steps, certain numbers and "a woman in a red dress"(no really) are indications that the people involved must be involved in a global conspiracy to take over the world.

It is not possible for any of these images to be used without it being intended to be a subliminal message.
paulbrock
11-08-2010
Originally Posted by timperry26:
“kanye has already sold his soul to the devil and now he wants to get out. The dangers involved could be deadly for him he could lose everything record deal, house or even be killed.

Remember when his mother died suddenly during surgery.
Listen to kanye west song power he wants to get out. Shame about MJ they eventually got him”

Of course. He's in extreme danger yet can get away with telling us he "wants to get out" through one of his songs without his 'masters' cottoning on.
Nuartey1
11-08-2010
Rumour has it that Aaliyah was a sacrifice for Rihanna and Beyonce...
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