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BBLB C4 6pm 17/6/04
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johnbuk
17-06-2004
oh come on, so what if Marco danced in front of him, no need for his reaction. It was all just because Jason wasn't getting his own way, who the hell is he to tell them all what to do.
dustmite
17-06-2004
I'm still trying to recover from the fact Endemol are playing this extremely well, even providing a really decent analysis of it, I'm truely shocked.
George Smiley
17-06-2004
Basically, Victor and Jason were provoked. Emma should be kicked out on her arse and Marco should get a formal warning.
Inspiration
17-06-2004
Victor at that point seemed to be smiling and almost appeared to have accepted the drop to a food fight and saw it as funny but Emmas throw of the plate followed by quickly turning her back and walking away from him was a classic provocation attempt.
johnbuk
17-06-2004
Yer, what it didn't show was that Victor and Jason had a good laugh over the water fight.
Evelyn
17-06-2004
Ive never seen Stuart like that before, and it really shocked me when he was pushing back Victor and shouting at him.
He shot right up in my estimation.
Marco's a plank
scott&nush
17-06-2004
At last the truth is finally being revealed and everyone can start to get their stories straight. Marco needs to have a warning against him due to his actions, everyone can see it now that he is one of the main catalysts for it all.
ascender
17-06-2004
How would any of us have reacted at what was going on? I thought the 2 boys were quite restrained when they got hosed in the snug. Jason came across as a right **** in the way he told them all to clean up the mess, but I can see his point, the place was trashed.

It'll be interesting to see how the try and place blame for all of this and who comes out of it well or not.

Emma does seem to have a nasty streak to her which combined with her immaturity seems to be winding a lot of people up in there.
mr_ray
17-06-2004
Originally Posted by scott&nush:
“At last the truth is finally being revealed and everyone can start to get their stories straight. Marco needs to have a warning against him due to his actions, everyone can see it now that he is one of the main catalysts for it all.”

Marco needs a warning for dancing? Don't be so stupid.

If Jason was so upset about it he should have danced back at him. There is zero reason for violence, or threats of it. Jason was way out of line taking things too far.
chocolatekisses
17-06-2004
why is BBLB wasting time talking about colours?

show us the scrapping.
johnbuk
17-06-2004
I don't care what they say, dancing and laughing in front of someone is NOT a justification for kicking off. Vennessa and Jason act like parents, if the don't like it they can get out.

Vennessa will be gone soon enough... bye..bye
mr_ray
17-06-2004
Originally Posted by johnbuk:
“Yer, what it didn't show was that Victor and Jason had a good laugh over the water fight.”

Exactly. I picked up on this live. They were laughing and joking about it, having fun for once.

The reason he weant for Marco's throat has nothing to do with that at all.
chocolatekisses
17-06-2004
Originally Posted by mr_ray:
“Marco needs a warning for dancing? Don't be so stupid.

If Jason was so upset about it he should have danced back at him. There is zero reason for violence, or threats of it. Jason was way out of line taking things too far.”

there's dancing and there's dancing around in a goading type way.
Digi Dan
17-06-2004
What a shit show... standards are yet again slipping
Lucytash
17-06-2004
From the time Emma & Michelle went back in, Victor & Jason were building up to an explosion & could hardly get a word out that didn't begin with 'f'. Marco didn't know that & would never have been so brave in front of the 2 thugs if he had known.
johnbuk
17-06-2004
Okay, lets look at it from a legal stand point.

If someone in a pub danced in front of you, smiling, and gloating, then a fight broke out because someone didn't like it, the police wouldn't be interested in the dancing. Its irrelevant...
bubweiser
17-06-2004
Originally Posted by johnbuk:
“I don't care what they say, dancing and laughing in front of someone is NOT a justification for kicking off. Vennessa and Jason act like parents, if the don't like it they can get out.

Vennessa will be gone soon enough... bye..bye”

so your telling me if that muppet started dancing and gloating in your face, you would laugh it off ?

let me put it this way

if scotland beat england and the scottish fans gloated and danced like maro to take the piss out of them, would the english leave it ?

i don't think so, do you ?
Opaque
17-06-2004
Originally Posted by dustmite:
“I'm still trying to recover from the fact Endemol are playing this extremely well, even providing a really decent analysis of it, I'm truely shocked.”

Makes a change doesn't it.
But I do hope that they do the same with the nightly show. That doesn't always happen though.
scott&nush
17-06-2004
Originally Posted by mr_ray:
“Marco needs a warning for dancing? Don't be so stupid.

If Jason was so upset about it he should have danced back at him. There is zero reason for violence, or threats of it. Jason was way out of line taking things too far.”

Yeah but he was doing the dancing for a reason as he knew it pissed Jason off and he was winding him up all night. In the end Jason is only human and we all lose are tempter sometimes and because we get so angry we feel the need to let out
Susann
17-06-2004
Originally Posted by Inspiration:
“Victor at that point seemed to be smiling and almost appeared to have accepted the drop to a food fight and saw it as funny but Emmas throw of the plate followed by quickly turning her back and walking away from him was a classic provocation attempt.”

But going back a bit, wasn't it Victor in the Diary room asking Emma and Michelle to bring it on when he thought they may be back anyway ? hoping they would see the footage and he was also on the rooftop calling Emma's name.

Victor is not entirely blameless, he was most probably spoiling for a fight anyway. The slightest thing would have provoked it surely.
robbies_gal
17-06-2004
he threw it and it bounced off her head

im sorry but frmo watching it live all night last night victor and jason were just itching to start on them-they were in the snug swearing how they couldnt belive the 2 were back and they were f-ing kids and they just walked round all night after that glaring at them

it was any excuse to start a fight and jason telling them to clean up was the start of it
ascender
17-06-2004
They're all behaving as childish and immature as each other at times, but they seem to forget that they're all adults. If they behaved like this in the real world there'd be a few people picking their teeth up off the floor, so how can we (and they) be surprised that its all "kicked off"???
nik.
17-06-2004
Originally Posted by bubweiser:
“so your telling me if that muppet started dancing and gloating in your face, you would laugh it off ?

let me put it this way

if scotland beat england and the scottish fans gloated and danced like maro to take the piss out of them, would the english leave it ?

i don't think so, do you ?”


That doesnt justify it at all
Snanos
17-06-2004
Vanessa started it by crying about herself (as usual) and that set Jay into motion.
not so big muvva
17-06-2004
Originally Posted by Digi Dan:
“Like we wanna know about boring anger management.... show us more bloody footage from last night, interview the production team on last night... blah blah blah but not this boring stuff as usual”

Totally agree i think they were just trying to fill 30 mins with anything but the footage
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