How can you be so naive? Of course if someone dances in front of of that is no reason to get mad at them but it was SO much more than just a dance. Did you see the mess they'd made? Did you hear the constant shrieking and yelping? Did you see them soak J and V? And did you see the dance itself? It was horrible. He was about and inch away and he was yelping and shouting at J at the same time. Bottom line is: J then threatened him. As would everyone else on this planet apart from you it seems.

J didn't hit him or even touch him. For that he deserves respect.

I most certainly will, because I always like to keep myself informed. If you re-read my post, there was no suggestion in my post that the clip wasn't how events took place. I was rather amused by you on your high horse relying on an edited show 'for the sake of truth'.

point taken

Did you not see Victor and Jason appearing to enjoy it by giggling like children and Jason goading them by constantly peeping through the open window?

Pfffft!

Well said.

i'm still right mind

jason victor should both be kick out , why they were both behind all the trouble

Can't wait for tonight! I wonder will it be longer than usual. And will Emma get the boot tomorrow night instead of Dan or Van?

On BBLB it seemed to show them throwing foodstuff at each other (dunno who started that) and Victor smiling and half turning away. Then Emma threw a tray/plate at him which looked like it flew past his shoulder or just grazed him, and then she turned away and he retaliated. Victor though did not graze Emma with his but seemed to hit her in the small of the back. Cue it all kicking off

see this is how things get misinterpreted-jason was already arguing byt this point when they were throwing trays at each other, but looking at it fmr the clips it just looks like emmas started to throw things

There are 2 points at issue. 1) Using physical violence against another HM is reason for expulsion. The only 2 HMs to whom this applies are Emma and Victor. In my view the HM striking the first blow should be removed from the house immediately. Any reaction by other HMs is a little more complicated. If it was an over-reaction (i.e. not instinctive self-defence) then they should go to. The prods have all the footage they need to make the decision - tho the second part will be more difficult.

2) The cause of the trouble is more a matter of dispute (as this thread shows). Frankly, all the HMs should be formally warned that any sign of a repetition will result in immediate expulsions. Winding up, verbal violence and furniture damaging are not reasons for expulsion. However, they are reasons for us to evict them - as we see fit....

lol! I missed it! I'll have to watch E4+1.