I dont understand people who are texting into the E4 live text thing they were all blaming marco and emma for the fight. well i am sorry i blame Jay and Victor there egos are to big for there own good, and just casue they did not get there own way they chucked there toys out of the pram
how pathetic does anyone agree?

No. Emma is a mentalist. Marco is a stirring abomination. They deserve all they get.

are you dumb, can you honestly think that they didnt play the big part in provocation last night, if that had been you being goaded, would not have smacked either one of them.

No... Just watch the .mpeg it shows the start of the fight if you want anyone to blame then it's Marco first then Emma.

If so someone like Marco came up into my personal space I dont know what I'd do...

Also if you watch Victor says to Emma "Im trying to break them up".. Emma being thick eggs Victor on.. and thats how it starts.

Victor the peace maker!

You cant dispute this as this bit is cut... after that it cuts to the garden.

because the actual video footage (as opposed to the baseless wild speculation that was going on last night) that has been shown actually suggests they were more to blame?

everyone is blaming emma and marco because..................................it's emma's and marco's fault!

they are wind up merchants and now that it has all kicked off they'll be all coy and actin innocent.

emma and marco are at fault.

stuart still looks like a ponce in his cowboy hat.

shell is still not as nice as she pretnds to be

nadia is still the hardest bloke in the house




but seriously, marco is now playing the "ooh im so intimidated" card

he didnt seem very intimidted when he was delibiratley teasing jason to the poitn where he snapped.

Is this going to be the tactic of anyone in big brother trying to score points off somone they dont like?

pretend they feel unsafe and try to raise personal saftey issues.

weak...

From the footage I've seen, Marco was intent on winding up (an understatement) Jason and Victor as soon as he heard what Emma saw from the bedsit. It also looks like Emma's comment to Victor just as he was about to enter the diary room is what caused the fight to really escalate.

Of course we all saw Jay and Vic sulking when they realised that everything they thought about the way the game was going was wrong upon the girl's return, but Victor's all front and not much else. They weren't really going to do anything without the goading from the Harem and particularly Marco.

The only people to come out well from this appear to be Dan and Stuart (not Ahmed, being too busy sleeping isn't a good enough excuse in the Big Brother house!).

Maybe its because THEY were the ones who provoked the enitre episode - if that screaming little queen Marco hadnt been mincing around and singing in Jay's face like a tool then nothing would have happened - similarly if Emma hadnt been doing the same to Vic that wouldnt have happened either. MArco and Emma have less brains between them than the offspring of a village idiot and a tv weather girl!

Jay and Vic and Ness were toatlly justified in what they did - would YOU have just stood there with them taking the pi$$ out of you - I know I have too much self-worth to let someone demean me like Emma and Marco and Nadia did to them.

I say kick they REAL troublemakers out on their ar$e$ - The whiny little drama queen (Marco), the fat little violent retard (Emma) and the ugliest excuse for a She-male ever (Nadia)!

What is a mentalist? If you are saying that she is mentally ill, is that her fault ? Should she be punished for being mentally ill ?

I think Emma should be locked up in that bedsit FOREVER.

Darlings, booze is to blame for all of what happened last night. And the BB5 producers, of course.

I say it was Jason and Victor who started the proceedings. Once they realised that their 'Game Plan' had been ruined, tension and anger just took them over and they cracked!! They both threatened to hit females which I think is bad in itself!

if girls can dish it out, they can get it back in return

Err yeah right.

But they didnt put any of that into action it was Marco who did wind them up as he said he would.

Well said! Glad to see you're not the only one in this thread with the same opinion either. I flicked over to BBLB and was seething at how those two were acting. Jason and Victor had every right to be angry. Getting soaked with a hose and watching the INSIDE of the house (not the garden) get totally trashed (did you see the mess they made for christ sakes?!) and the way in which those two were talking and shouting towards J and V was totally unacceptable.

If the same had happened to me I don't think I would have been able to contain my rage and I actually think J and V did well to stay as 'calm' as they did.

So its Marco's fault they have a short fuse?
Its Marco's fault that they want to hit females?
Its Marco's fault that Jason smashed the place up?

Exactly. If you can't take it, don't dish it out in the first place. That goes for both genders.

May I humbly suggest there may just possibly be better ways of breaking up confrontations than standing about ten inches from someone a foot shorter than oneself and bellowing at them while encrouching even nearer in as threatening manner as possible.

If Victor doesn't want to be judged according to stereotypical preconceptions he would do well not to re-inforce those stereotypes.

I'm also slightly worried at the idea that users of this forum would naturally react to being goaded by smacking people (preferably people who are 5' and/or plainly couldn't knock the skin off a rice pudding).

Nevertheless Marco and Emma were almost as bad as Jason and Victor.

BTW I think we could probably do without the "screaming little queen" and "She-male" nonsense.

No.

Hit Females .. where did u pull that from.. your ass ? It started with Marco provoking Jason.... and Victor trying to break them up.

If a female attacks you then you have every right to defend yourself.

Jason didnt smash the place up .. have you actually seen the footage ?

It was marco and co that trashed the place, that's one of the reasons Jason was angry.

Yep, and Emma.

Emma is on another planet and Marco is just a grade A tosser. I'm surprised Marco wasn't grabbed by the throat personally...

Provocation is no excuse for the behaviour of the bad-boys. Jason and Victor should both be kicked out unceremoniously. They are really nasty pieces of work. Look at their faces when the girls appeared!! They deserved to be 'wound up'. Party poopers is an understatement.

NOTHING is an excuse for the behaviour displayed by Victor and Jason. NOTHING. Jason started it when he played at Jesus in the Temple with the moneylenders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!