Excellent assessment.

I don't like Stuart but after recent events I'd probably put my cash on him winning it.

I believe J started the aggression in the house by shouting at everyone who was having fun fighting with ONLY FOOD, talking to them like children (childish as they have been) if he had stayed away they would have all drunk themselves senseless and collapsed, but I would have hated to have missed Marcos dancing

No! The food fight was, as you say, incredibely selfish and totally unforgivable. This was INSIDE the house for godsakes. It covered the carpets and chairs and basically all of the living area. It was a stupid and crass thing to do and people seem to forget that they are adults. They're not chimps or children yet they insist on acting like them and for once I agreed with Vanessa when she called them animals.

It's appauling how they behaved and if people want to call me a boring old granddad then so be it but I'd rather be called that than Marco, Emma, Nadia or Michelle.

I agree. If Victor or Jason thought that they were being deliberately provoked by the other group then they should have reported it and complained to Big Brother. The situation shouldn't have been allowed to get that far in the first place. When Emma threw the tray at him, why didn't he complain instead of retaliating? If Emma had done that to someone in the outside world, she could easily have been charged with assault and if Victor had thrown the tray back he wouldn't have got off scot free neither. In fact if this event had happened in the local pub then both of them would probably have been arrested. Victor's done himself no favours by retaliating and has just come across as being a thug who should have known better than to react to someone who is far weaker in mind and in body than himself. It also wasn't acceptable behaviour on Emma's part and he should have complained about it to BB.

2 points. First, the food fight was immature, but fun. Vanessa whinging about food shortage elsewhere is c**p. The food would have been wasted had they fought with it or left it out to go grotty. I can't see why anyone can be offended by it. It really was high spirits and would have fizzled out had the thugs left well alone.

And secondly, SS54 is right. If they had a problem they should have talked to BB about it instead of turning tables etc.

[quote=starship54] Victor's done himself no favours by retaliating and has just come across as being a thug who should have known better than to react to someone who is far weaker in mind and in body than himself.QUOTE]

But Victor IS the thug of the house??? Jason is a control freak, like Victor, why they get on so well. Thought they had the whole thing under THEIR control until Emma and Michelle came back... and their incredible reaction was simply PRIZE! BB5 will go down is BB history as one of the best for sure! Well done producers... this year you just about got it right again!

EMMA AND MARCO ARE INNOCENT!

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Spot on. FREE THE BEDSIT ONE!!!

Jason should be praised for showing such great restraint. There's no way Marco would do that to somebody on the outside world without receiving a well deserved punch.

As for emma, she makes me sick. They way the Harem were acting last night was sickening and enough to drive anyone to violence. And as for Nadia (who coincidently is still a bloke despite no longer having a c0ck) .

What a bunch of freaks. Like Vanessa said, they're animals.

I hope C4 potray the evets in the same way as BBLB did.

Jason to win.

Take a look at Jason leaving Vanessa's bed..... he was spoiling for a fight. Fortunately for him, Emma was well up for it.

Victor, like the fool he is, got involved, where a real man would have walked away. There's no kudos in fighting a woman, verbally or otherwise.

As for Marco, surely everyone in the house knows by now that he's nothing more than the village idiot, and village idiots are annoying, but generally ignored.

So in my mind. Jason and Emma are the true villains of the peace, both spoiling for a fight, with only Dan, Michelle and Stuart (the only ones trying to restore calm) coming out of it with any dignity.

Tell that to someone from Ethiopia.

THAT is the kind of thing that really gets me angry. It's the kind of stupid remark Victor would make.

So next time they have a party in the BB house all left over food to be packed up and sent to the starving. Ok....that'll work.

Here here. I agree.

I am so glad to find some people that agree with me. I'm sick of hearing about poor old Jason and Victor. If they had been nicer people to begin with Emma would have had nothing to complain about.

I think Emma should leave, I think she should have left when she was nominted the first time. She is a very unstable person who needs some help. I think big bro should have seen the signs before last night. The incident with Victor in the toilet the week before I think summed her up she went looking for an argument that night with victor she didn't like the way he spoke to her but she was all too quick to speak like that to victor. The when she went to the toilet and did the same thing straight away shown how she doesn't think.

When she went and mouthed everything that happened while they were in the bedsit (plus some stuff she decided to make up to wind up marco and nadia a bit more), you knew it was going to kick off. Sure Victor and Jason were moaning because there plan went wrong but they did the right thing and removed themselves from the group. But the way Marco and Emma then preceded to wind them up, deliberately wanting to start a fight they cannot now try to act all innocent when it gets out of hand. I think Marco, Emma and Jason are to blame for what happened. Jason shouldn't have gone into the kicthen he should have stayed outside, but when he went inside Marco and Emma behavoiur was unacceptable, the way Marco wound up Jason then when the point of confrontation came he ran away says a lot about him as a person. This then gave Emma the chance to "get her revenge" on Victor. People are saying Victor should go, i think hes the least to blame out of all 4 of them (Emma, Marco, Jason and Victor) When he threw the wine over Emma that was his way of lashing out at her (considering she had just sprayed water all over Victor and jason before she cannot complain!), but like the toilet incident she wouldn't let it go and threw the plate at victor and was just plain stupid, victor had every right to throw the tray back at her( I don't care about sex, race or sexuality when you throw things at people and start physical violence then you should expect it back that is the way the world works, everyone has a right to personal space! And before you all start I do not condone domestic abuse or anything of a similar nature).

I think Victor showed great restraint and all this stuff about him hitting peopel and pushing people around is not true because if he did hit anyone he would not be in the house at the moment. I think when Emma was put in the bedsit it shown that big brother has realised she is the cause of the problem and she need to leave. Marco, Victor and Jason will just get told off i think they will show they're disgust at what happened in the nominations. Marco is partly acting how he is because of Emma, If she went i think the situation will be calmed down. Jason and Victor would calm down because she isn't they're. They got along with Marco well enough when she was in the bedsit, and i think they would accept that.

I think Emma going back would only cause trouble. They should just replace her with a new housemate and then people can get back to the game, because thats what it is as Stuart was saying to Michelle last night its a game people have to draw boundries and Emma clearly can't. I think the fight was ultimatley her fault and Big brothers fault for putting a person of that volitile nature in the house and if they didn't know then they should have doen something about it when they could.

Thats just my opinion sorry for it being so long and if it doesn't make sense blame the housemates for fighting so early in the morning, and not lettning me sleep!

If Emma is an unstable charector then Victor is even more so. His attitude is aggresive and makes me very uncomfortable. Jason is just a prat. You could see he was spinning Vanessa a line, but then she deserved to be sucked in. And last night he lost it - bigstyle.

Victors attitude was a lot less aggresive then emma last night. Victor may have and agressive attitude but he doesn't do anything else he knows when to stop Emma didn't and she showed how unstable she is victor had every right to shout abuse at her. In both their fights Victor has tried to walk away. Emma just wouldnt give up i think this makes Victor a lot more stable person than Emma. Emma doesn't know when to draw the line Victors actions were completly justified.

I tell you what disgusts me. It's whiny, wimpy, two-faced snide wind up merchants that don't have the balls (no offence Nadia) to stand up and have the courage of their convictions.

If Marco had said "Your a ****** Jason and I hate you" I'd have had some respect. He knew exactly what he was doing.

We've all met "Marcos" at school. They were tossers all the time and ran to the teacher as soon as somebody clocked them one. Kids have an excuse. Can anybody believe that Marco's behavious is that of an adult?

For the record I don't like J and I don't like Victor.

But you sound like a Marco to me Mr ray.

I disagree, from what I saw, Victor was almost in the Diary room when he turned around and started chasing after Emma again.

Lets face it, both are as wrong as each other.

Yes, I can see that it took a lot to drag Emma into the gutter.

Nasty men. Fancy not liking childish antics.