Can anyone suggest how I might connect my Foxsat HDR to a computer monitor which has only D-Sub & DVI ports ?

I've tried a HDMI to DVI cable and the Monitor (HP LP2065W) reports: "Input signal out of range"

thanks

bsw

I cannot find a manual for this monitor on HP's site (is it a widescreen monitor?), but the manual should tell you what resolutions it can accept. What is the native resolution of the monitor?

The HDR will only output standard "TV" resolutions, i.e. 576i, 576p, 720i, 720p and 1080i.

Have you already set up the output via a TV? Perhaps you've set it to 1080i and the monitor cannot accept that.

Many monitors require a minimum vertical synch of 56Hz or greater (nominally 60Hz). If tthe OP's is similar thats likely the problem.

Likewise, most monitors won't accept TV standard signals.

Thanks for all the replies.

The max resoloution is given as 1600 x 1200 / 75 Hz . I think it is currently set at 1600 x 1200 / 60.

The HDR has been used with a TV and will be set to output 1080i and I can reconnect it to a TV and change it if that would help but I suspect I'm wasting my time.

Just as background info. the HDR is spare and I have a couple of spare monitors and thought if I could marry the 2 it would save me buying a portable TV to use in a caravan we're planning to buy.

Since 1080i is 1920x1080 which is more horizontal pixels than your monitor supports, I'd definitely try a different resolution setting on the HDR (you can switch it from the remote, just by pressing the v.format button) 720p should be ok (1280 x720).

If everything is in working order the setup should work.

I have an early generation HD TV which has a DVI socket and it works fine with my Humax HDR. The actual setup I use is an HDMI to HDMI lead with a DVI adapter on one end.

Your monitor needs to support 1080i/50 or 720p/50 for HD, or 576i/50 for SD.
I have 2 DELL LCD screens - one supports these, and the other doesn't.
Most monitors only support 1080i/60 or 720p/60

Just an idea: could the problems be related the monitor's DVI port not having HDCP circuitry ie the HD copy protection scheme - and hence the Foxsat doesn't like it and gives up and hence the monitor doesn't get anything it can understand. I know quite a few (early?) DVI aren't HDCP compliant.

PS: Did a quick look on the HP website for that monitor and couldn't see any reference to HDCP, and a couple of other third party references saying it's definitely NOT HDCP.

If you connect it to a PC via DVI something like CyberLink Blu-ray Disc Advisor will let you know if that thinks it has HDCP or not

MKD

Thanks again for all the responses.

I've tried changing resoloutions with no success. The monitor flickers on 571i & 1080i but does nothing on 720p. It has 2 DVI sockets and shows part of what is being sent to the other - non HDR- input.

I have another spare monitor - a Philips 200WS so I'll give that a try and report back.

bsw

Update

The Philips doesn't work either.

On 576i & 1080i it pops up a box saying" cannot display this mode change to 1680 x 1050 @ 60Hz".

Nothing on 720p.

Back to the drawing board !!

bsw

It is probably a frequency issue as well, as was said before many monitors don't like 50Hz and are stuck at 60Hz. The interlaced image would probably just be processed badly because most scaler chips do support it, just most not in TVs do it badly. It may also be the HDCP issue, have you turned off the HDCP in the video menu?

I have a Benq 24in monitor which is native 1920x1080p, it tells attached sources that it only supports 1080p60 but I can send other things to it including 1080p50 and 1080i50. But this monitor's scaler natively supports TV standards including HDCP, even if it lies about what it does support in the EDID.

Bob

Maybe out of the frying pan into the fire?
Seems that Philips model isn't certain to support HDCP either as only reference at:
http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/d...&slg=en&scy=GB
is
"DVI-D input and HDCP support ( for selective model )"
whatever that means !
MKD

Update.

I've been away so haven't had a chance to try Bob's suggestion about HDCP.

However I have had some success using an EZGrabber that I had "in stock" from some years ago when I bought it to transfer footage from my Sony digital handycam. Basically this is a small rectangular plastic thing about 100 x 25 x 10mm with a USB lead at one end and 3 RCA type and 1 S Video connectors at the other. Install the drivers, run the software, plug the RCAs into the HDR and the USB into the comp. Boot up the HDR and what you would normally see on your TV comes up in a EZGrabber box on the monitor (this can be expanded to full screen). I then selected a film that I recorded some time ago, hit play on the HDR and the record button on the EZGrabber controls and recorded the 75 min. film on to my computer hard disc and burnt it to DVD using Windows Movie Maker. That took a while but the resulting DVD works on my Sony Home Cinema system perfectly.

Obviously rather than recording something off the HDR I could simply have used it as a tuner and watched live TV.

Bit of a pity I decided over the weekend that I wasn't going to able to make this work and I bought a new 22" TV but there you go.

Success !!

I followed Bob's advice and disabled HDCP, selected 720p and it works on anything not recorded in HD.

Now I need to work out how to get the sound into the computer so that it can be played via the comps. speakers. Any advice welcome.

bsw

For the sound you just need a stereo phono to (usually) jack plug lead to connect from the Humax audio out to the computer's audio line-in. Then make sure that audio line-in is enabled in the computer's sound mixer settings.

tgabber,

Thanks for that - I'll try it when I get the chance. If I were using this setup without a comp. i.e. HDR & Monitor only would a pair of comp. speakers e.g. Logitech work if connected to HDR with suitable adapter ?

Thanks

bsw

Only if they were amplified speakers.

Yes that's the bit I find confusing - the ones I'm thinking of are mains powered does this mean / imply that they are amplified ?

yes...

Thanks...

To be honest, pretty well ALL computer speakers have been amplified since ATX motherboards were introduced. It was only the pre-ATX boards that had amplifiers on board (I've still got my pre-ATX speakers, not used them for a LONGGGG time now ).

I'm pleased to report that I've it all working both via the comp's line-in and directly to the speakers.

Thanks to everyone for their help / input.

bsw

P.S. I too remember when comp. speakers weren't fed mains power and that's what detered me from just plugging my current powered ones into the HDR - I thought it might do some damage but I knew I that someone on this forum would have the answer.