Have you ever seen a phone like this in the UK?

princesarock12 · 13-08-2010, 21:07

I really want this phone, but after my previous thread I found out it's US only and it's also been discontinued. Has anyone seen a phone available in the UK that looks like this? It basically has to be:

-A "bar" phone that opens up
-Hopefully orange (although the colours not that important)

Sorry but I'm no techie and I don't know much about mobile phones and for all I know there could be plenty of these on the market!

Thanks

princesarock12 · 13-08-2010, 21:53

I guess no one has then..

bigtunes · 13-08-2010, 21:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by princesarock12

I really want this phone, but after my previous thread I found out it's US only and it's also been discontinued. Has anyone seen a phone available in the UK that looks like this? It basically has to be:

-A "bar" phone that opens up
-Hopefully orange (although the colours not that important)

Sorry but I'm no techie and I don't know much about mobile phones and for all I know there could be plenty of these on the market!

Thanks

Nokia E90 is close, bigger and heavier though.... and no orange.. and old and expensive...

chaos77 · 13-08-2010, 22:19

there are a few on ebay us! http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trk...All-Categories

bigtunes · 13-08-2010, 22:38

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Originally Posted by chaos77

there are a few on ebay us! http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trk...All-Categories

CDMA not GSM though so won't work over here.

Daveoc64 · 14-08-2010, 01:16

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Originally Posted by bigtunes

CDMA not GSM though so won't work over here.

Indeed.

Verizon has a CDMA2000 network, which isn't used in the UK.

Appleseed · 14-08-2010, 09:07

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Originally Posted by Daveoc64

Indeed.

Verizon has a CDMA2000 network, which isn't used in the UK.

America likes to stand out from the rest of the developed world as we know

spanglysteve · 14-08-2010, 11:19

the nokia n97 does not flip up but still has a slide out qwerty keyboard, although its apparently an incredibly frustrating phone to use.

Hardstyler · 14-08-2010, 11:30

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Originally Posted by spanglysteve

the nokia n97 does not flip up but still has a slide out qwerty keyboard, although its apparently an incredibly frustrating phone to use.

And very buggy, i sold mine and got an iphone 3g .... Evan tho uts a very old iphone, much better than the N97

zantarous · 14-08-2010, 12:07

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Originally Posted by Appleseed

America likes to stand out from the rest of the developed world as we know

They have two networks that support GSM, T Mobile and AT&T.

Vallhund · 14-08-2010, 12:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Appleseed

America likes to stand out from the rest of the developed world as we know

The problem the Americans have is that they were one of the first countries in the market and have been saddled with some pretty old tech.

Americans also get charged when they receive a Mobile call or text.

Weird or What?

Daveoc64 · 14-08-2010, 17:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vallhund

The problem the Americans have is that they were one of the first countries in the market and have been saddled with some pretty old tech.

CDMA2000 is no older than UMTS.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vallhund

Americans also get charged when they receive a Mobile call or text.

Weird or What?

Not really.

This is very common outside of western Europe.

It's just like how most people in the UK don't realise free banking is uncommon in other countries.

burneside · 14-08-2010, 19:07

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Originally Posted by Vallhund

Americans also get charged when they receive a Mobile call or text.

Weird or What?

Indeed. I've read various articles indicating phone companies here would like to adopt that billing practice, but I don't think they'd get away with it, mobile use would plummet.

Appleseed · 14-08-2010, 23:13

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DXRulz · 15-08-2010, 00:00

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Originally Posted by burneside

Indeed. I've read various articles indicating phone companies here would like to adopt that billing practice, but I don't think they'd get away with it, mobile use would plummet.

Well if they did that, i would not use a mobile ever again!

TheBigM · 15-08-2010, 10:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vallhund

The problem the Americans have is that they were one of the first countries in the market and have been saddled with some pretty old tech.

Americans also get charged when they receive a Mobile call or text.

Weird or What?

It's quite common in a number of East Asian countries too. But they don't pay for outbound calls or texts only inbound. Which is why at one point it was free for my Dad to call us from China.

I agree our billing system makes a lot more sense.

spanglysteve · 15-08-2010, 19:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vallhund

The problem the Americans have is that they were one of the first countries in the market and have been saddled with some pretty old tech.

Americans also get charged when they receive a Mobile call or text.

Weird or What?

The difference (so I've been told) is that all numbers in the USA are location based, ie a mobile phone purchased in NYC would have an NYC dialling code. Thus outgoing calls are charged at a standard rate whether you are calling a landline or a mobile. Therefore you as the mobile owner pick up the extra cost of the connection when you receive the call.

In the UK out mobile numbers are obvious by the 07 prefix, thus the person making the call knows they are calling a mobile and it is therefore ok to charge more (as they will be aware). The caller therefore picks up the extra charge.

Its the same general principle as receiving calls on a uk phone when abroad. When someone from the UK calls you, they do not know you are abroad and can therefore not be expected to stump up the additional cost which is why you pay it to receive the call.

13-08-2010, 21:07	#1
princesarock12 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,574	Have you ever seen a phone like this in the UK? I really want this phone, but after my previous thread I found out it's US only and it's also been discontinued. Has anyone seen a phone available in the UK that looks like this? It basically has to be: -A "bar" phone that opens up -Hopefully orange (although the colours not that important) Sorry but I'm no techie and I don't know much about mobile phones and for all I know there could be plenty of these on the market! Thanks

13-08-2010, 21:53	#2
princesarock12 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,574	I guess no one has then..

13-08-2010, 21:58	#3
bigtunes Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the internet Posts: 818	Quote: Originally Posted by princesarock12 I really want this phone, but after my previous thread I found out it's US only and it's also been discontinued. Has anyone seen a phone available in the UK that looks like this? It basically has to be: -A "bar" phone that opens up -Hopefully orange (although the colours not that important) Sorry but I'm no techie and I don't know much about mobile phones and for all I know there could be plenty of these on the market! Thanks Nokia E90 is close, bigger and heavier though.... and no orange.. and old and expensive...

13-08-2010, 22:19	#4
chaos77 Guest Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 757	there are a few on ebay us! http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trk...All-Categories

13-08-2010, 22:38	#5
bigtunes Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the internet Posts: 818	Quote: Originally Posted by chaos77 there are a few on ebay us! http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trk...All-Categories CDMA not GSM though so won't work over here.

14-08-2010, 01:16	#6
Daveoc64 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bristol (BBC1 West) Posts: 15,143	Quote: Originally Posted by bigtunes CDMA not GSM though so won't work over here. Indeed. Verizon has a CDMA2000 network, which isn't used in the UK.

14-08-2010, 09:07	#7
Appleseed Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3,673	Quote: Originally Posted by Daveoc64 Indeed. Verizon has a CDMA2000 network, which isn't used in the UK. America likes to stand out from the rest of the developed world as we know

14-08-2010, 11:19	#8
spanglysteve Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,380	the nokia n97 does not flip up but still has a slide out qwerty keyboard, although its apparently an incredibly frustrating phone to use.

14-08-2010, 11:30	#9
Hardstyler Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,775	Quote: Originally Posted by spanglysteve the nokia n97 does not flip up but still has a slide out qwerty keyboard, although its apparently an incredibly frustrating phone to use. And very buggy, i sold mine and got an iphone 3g .... Evan tho uts a very old iphone, much better than the N97

14-08-2010, 12:07	#10
zantarous Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ealing, London Posts: 2,140	Quote: Originally Posted by Appleseed America likes to stand out from the rest of the developed world as we know They have two networks that support GSM, T Mobile and AT&T.

14-08-2010, 12:31	#11
Vallhund Inactive Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 5,172	Quote: Originally Posted by Appleseed America likes to stand out from the rest of the developed world as we know The problem the Americans have is that they were one of the first countries in the market and have been saddled with some pretty old tech. Americans also get charged when they receive a Mobile call or text. Weird or What?

14-08-2010, 17:30	#12
Daveoc64 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bristol (BBC1 West) Posts: 15,143	Quote: Originally Posted by Vallhund The problem the Americans have is that they were one of the first countries in the market and have been saddled with some pretty old tech. CDMA2000 is no older than UMTS. Quote: Originally Posted by Vallhund Americans also get charged when they receive a Mobile call or text. Weird or What? Not really. This is very common outside of western Europe. It's just like how most people in the UK don't realise free banking is uncommon in other countries.

14-08-2010, 19:07	#13
burneside Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Isle of Dogs Posts: 2,157	Quote: Originally Posted by Vallhund Americans also get charged when they receive a Mobile call or text. Weird or What? Indeed. I've read various articles indicating phone companies here would like to adopt that billing practice, but I don't think they'd get away with it, mobile use would plummet.

14-08-2010, 23:13	#14
Appleseed Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3,673	deleted duplicate

15-08-2010, 00:00	#15
DXRulz Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oswestry, Shropshire Posts: 4,196	Quote: Originally Posted by burneside Indeed. I've read various articles indicating phone companies here would like to adopt that billing practice, but I don't think they'd get away with it, mobile use would plummet. Well if they did that, i would not use a mobile ever again!

15-08-2010, 10:58	#16
TheBigM Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: moon Posts: 12,983	Quote: Originally Posted by Vallhund The problem the Americans have is that they were one of the first countries in the market and have been saddled with some pretty old tech. Americans also get charged when they receive a Mobile call or text. Weird or What? It's quite common in a number of East Asian countries too. But they don't pay for outbound calls or texts only inbound. Which is why at one point it was free for my Dad to call us from China. I agree our billing system makes a lot more sense.

15-08-2010, 19:50	#17
spanglysteve Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,380	Quote: Originally Posted by Vallhund The problem the Americans have is that they were one of the first countries in the market and have been saddled with some pretty old tech. Americans also get charged when they receive a Mobile call or text. Weird or What? The difference (so I've been told) is that all numbers in the USA are location based, ie a mobile phone purchased in NYC would have an NYC dialling code. Thus outgoing calls are charged at a standard rate whether you are calling a landline or a mobile. Therefore you as the mobile owner pick up the extra cost of the connection when you receive the call. In the UK out mobile numbers are obvious by the 07 prefix, thus the person making the call knows they are calling a mobile and it is therefore ok to charge more (as they will be aware). The caller therefore picks up the extra charge. Its the same general principle as receiving calls on a uk phone when abroad. When someone from the UK calls you, they do not know you are abroad and can therefore not be expected to stump up the additional cost which is why you pay it to receive the call.

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