Get psycho Emma out, and give all the others except Shell, Stuart, Dan, Ahmed and Michelle warnings.
Double eviction next week - boot out Marco and Nadia.
Double eviction next week - boot out Marco and Nadia.
MY theory on what will happen tonight.
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I think Victor should go tonight too for all the rule breaking and his attmepts to sway voting.But I also think Emma ought to go. Her folks are freaked and thinks she is on verge of breakdown.Apparantly they do not know how she got in as she is somewhat of a nervous wreck at best of times.So for own safety and fragile grip on reality she should be sent home. That is 2 of the trouble makers done with. Voting can always take on board Michelle who had a great time instigated but lacked the guts to muck in or help her new best mate Emmma and then there is J....I did not myself see much more than bluff on his side..Victor and Emma however meant their aggro seriously.It is unfair to toss one but not both out.....my opinion for what it is worth. 
Someone is going to rumble onto Stuart soon..trying to be annoymous by being all tihngs to all people.voice nofirm opinion of his own and agree with whoever he is talknig to at that moment.He is a sneaky insiduous fellow who no-one seems to suspect as having a game going....
Someone is going to rumble onto Stuart soon..trying to be annoymous by being all tihngs to all people.voice nofirm opinion of his own and agree with whoever he is talknig to at that moment.He is a sneaky insiduous fellow who no-one seems to suspect as having a game going....
Originally Posted by homer911:
“we all know you want victor out you have been saying that for a long time already. you act like she has done nothing wrong when she has started all of this and does not deserve sympathy. i do not want her back in bb and i will be glad the day she leave. the rest of them i do not care enough to worry if they will be kicked out or not but she has to go i just cannot stand her anymore especially how people just defend her like she is completely innocent. all victor was trying to do was split up the fight but she did not let him. all night she wanted a fight and she got it and for that i have no sympathey i am sorry.”
“we all know you want victor out you have been saying that for a long time already. you act like she has done nothing wrong when she has started all of this and does not deserve sympathy. i do not want her back in bb and i will be glad the day she leave. the rest of them i do not care enough to worry if they will be kicked out or not but she has to go i just cannot stand her anymore especially how people just defend her like she is completely innocent. all victor was trying to do was split up the fight but she did not let him. all night she wanted a fight and she got it and for that i have no sympathey i am sorry.”
sorry but did u watch it live? yes i want victor out but yes if they are going to be fair maybe both of them should go-not thats coming frmo an emma fan!
he was riled up all night saying he was going to do something and hes still threatening her! how on gods earth can u stick up for him?
Victor just has to go surely - the house will 'lighten up' a bit with him out the way and Emma back in - he's an intimidating arrogant idiot who's bringing the house atmosphere down because his so called game plan is wrecked - if he goes I wouldn't be surprised if jason walked - but that wouldn't be a great loss either 
Surely they can't release Emma and Tupence at the same time because there will be one massive fight between the two families on the outside.
As much as I dislike Emma I think Tupence is the one that DESERVES to be kicked out tonight!
As much as I dislike Emma I think Tupence is the one that DESERVES to be kicked out tonight!
Perhaps this talk of Emma and Victor sorting out their differences "away from the other housemates" implies it will be done out of the house (and away from the public gaze, perhaps with psychs) with both being evicted tonight. Perhaps one on the first show, one on the second. In any case, we'll find out soon enough.
Originally Posted by Colonix:
“I wouldn't go so far as to say Victor is an idiot but he certainly is funny, and innefectual and hot air. I don't see him as such a violent threat as Jason. Last night's CH4 representation of the fight showed that Victor was trying to break up the fight between Nadia and Jason which Emma misinterpretated and used as her excuse to have her go at Victor.
If anything, I think Jason should be evicted as he is the embodiement of evil, is aggressive, angry and a bad influence on Victor.
Victor is his own man, or thinks he is, and has his own game plan and is actually quite funny. I bet if he didn't have Jason constantly scheming down his ear he wouldn't be so apparently scary.
IMHO!”
“I wouldn't go so far as to say Victor is an idiot but he certainly is funny, and innefectual and hot air. I don't see him as such a violent threat as Jason. Last night's CH4 representation of the fight showed that Victor was trying to break up the fight between Nadia and Jason which Emma misinterpretated and used as her excuse to have her go at Victor.
If anything, I think Jason should be evicted as he is the embodiement of evil, is aggressive, angry and a bad influence on Victor.
Victor is his own man, or thinks he is, and has his own game plan and is actually quite funny. I bet if he didn't have Jason constantly scheming down his ear he wouldn't be so apparently scary.
IMHO!”
You make a lot of sense so it will be my opinion too!
two things.
firstly why is everyone so sure victor has had at least 3 warnings? I thought when they had a warning the group was also informed? also im not totally sure the 3 strike rule exists this year - kitten was just kicked out because she was totally out of control rather than a specific number of incidents imho.
secondly, emma may be leaving but that does not mean victor will as well. What most people are missing is that it depends on the reason emma leaves. She might WANT to leave, OR she might be removed because bb believes it is affecting her mental health - neither of those apply to victor and so he may stay.
firstly why is everyone so sure victor has had at least 3 warnings? I thought when they had a warning the group was also informed? also im not totally sure the 3 strike rule exists this year - kitten was just kicked out because she was totally out of control rather than a specific number of incidents imho.
secondly, emma may be leaving but that does not mean victor will as well. What most people are missing is that it depends on the reason emma leaves. She might WANT to leave, OR she might be removed because bb believes it is affecting her mental health - neither of those apply to victor and so he may stay.
The smart money is on both of them going. Why?
1) They're two evictions behind! This would even it up
2) Victor has broke the rules endless times
3) Emma is mentally unstable (remember Penny?)
4) If one goes and not the other C4 are going to have complaints from viewers plus housemates may kick off again
5) BB have to show seen as showing at least some authority
Both will go tonight ;
1) They're two evictions behind! This would even it up
2) Victor has broke the rules endless times
3) Emma is mentally unstable (remember Penny?)
4) If one goes and not the other C4 are going to have complaints from viewers plus housemates may kick off again
5) BB have to show seen as showing at least some authority
Both will go tonight ;
Originally Posted by FunkyFreddy:
“two things.
firstly why is everyone so sure victor has had at least 3 warnings? I thought when they had a warning the group was also informed?”
“two things.
firstly why is everyone so sure victor has had at least 3 warnings? I thought when they had a warning the group was also informed?”
I don't think the group are informed - didn't Kitty hide her first warnings from the rest?
Originally Posted by SuperNova:
“The smart money is on both of them going. Why?
1) They're two evictions behind! This would even it up
2) Victor has broke the rules endless times
3) Emma is mentally unstable (remember Penny?)
4) If one goes and not the other C4 are going to have complaints from viewers plus housemates may kick off again
5) BB have to show seen as showing at least some authority
Both will go tonight ;”
“The smart money is on both of them going. Why?
1) They're two evictions behind! This would even it up
2) Victor has broke the rules endless times
3) Emma is mentally unstable (remember Penny?)
4) If one goes and not the other C4 are going to have complaints from viewers plus housemates may kick off again
5) BB have to show seen as showing at least some authority
Both will go tonight ;”
They will only be one eviction behind, after tonight.
If Victor goes them so should Emma, and I'd say this if Emma was to be kicked out.
They are both as bad as each other.
They are both as bad as each other.
Victor has already had 2 warnings prior to the 'big incident'
They will have to get rid of either Victor or Jason as if not they will start plotting and colluding together asap and start on the others and the atmosphere will intensify again, likely to reach another crisis point.
They will have to get rid of either Victor or Jason as if not they will start plotting and colluding together asap and start on the others and the atmosphere will intensify again, likely to reach another crisis point.
Originally Posted by SuperNova:
“The smart money is on both of them going. Why?
1) They're two evictions behind! This would even it up
2) Victor has broke the rules endless times
3) Emma is mentally unstable (remember Penny?)
4) If one goes and not the other C4 are going to have complaints from viewers plus housemates may kick off again
5) BB have to show seen as showing at least some authority
Both will go tonight ;”
“The smart money is on both of them going. Why?
1) They're two evictions behind! This would even it up
2) Victor has broke the rules endless times
3) Emma is mentally unstable (remember Penny?)
4) If one goes and not the other C4 are going to have complaints from viewers plus housemates may kick off again
5) BB have to show seen as showing at least some authority
Both will go tonight ;”
I think thats almost certain not to happen. Smart money, as you say, would go on nutcase Emma being sent home tonight.
As for the warnings and whatnot. I know its been a big rule in previous houses not to discuss nominations but I got the impression they were allowing it this time, to spice up the gameplaying (which is what this series is all about). Aside from that, what henious rules has he broken? Being aggressive verbally isn't breaking a rule....Ok, jumping on the roof may be, but even that has been planned by BB, as the roof is *ridiculously* easy to scale.
If Victor were to leave, the house would be dull, dull, dull. And I'm sure the producers won't want that - especially after the ratings boost this week.
As for Emma - I fail to see what is so 'fun' about her (aside from getting her tits out occasionally or acting thick). Her sole talent seems to be to run around screeching, and quite honestly, thats a talent I'd be quite happy to do without watching. At least Victor has some funny one-liners....
I think someone could well be leaving the house tonight.
But it won't be the producers who decide, it will be the contestants!
As they did with Kitten, Big Brother will announce that the rules have been broken. They will consider everyone played a part in the events and therefore one unspecificied contestant will therefore leave the house.
They could either make the housemates choose between the "guilty" housemates (eg. Victor, Emma, Jason etc) or they will not place any limitations on who can be thrown out; apart from that it cannot be either Vannessa or Dan, who will be leaving next week.
A new housemate would therefore join the group on Saturday.
Alternatively they could let the contestants decide if anyone deserves to be thrown out or not.
Personally I'd enjoy watching this on telly.
But it won't be the producers who decide, it will be the contestants!
As they did with Kitten, Big Brother will announce that the rules have been broken. They will consider everyone played a part in the events and therefore one unspecificied contestant will therefore leave the house.
They could either make the housemates choose between the "guilty" housemates (eg. Victor, Emma, Jason etc) or they will not place any limitations on who can be thrown out; apart from that it cannot be either Vannessa or Dan, who will be leaving next week.
A new housemate would therefore join the group on Saturday.
Alternatively they could let the contestants decide if anyone deserves to be thrown out or not.
Personally I'd enjoy watching this on telly.
Just to clarify, these discussions will not take the form of nominations which could be seen to encite more backstabbing and fighting, but will happen in the form of a civilised house discussion. That will last the whole hour from 9-10 when Davina announces to the public who is evited. Anyone can volunteer themselves for eviction; but the contestants can only choose one person.
Anyone not willing to partake in 'civilised' discussion will be evicted instead.
Anyone not willing to partake in 'civilised' discussion will be evicted instead.
Originally Posted by Colonix:
“I wouldn't go so far as to say Victor is an idiot but he certainly is funny, and innefectual and hot air. I don't see him as such a violent threat as Jason. Last night's CH4 representation of the fight showed that Victor was trying to break up the fight between Nadia and Jason which Emma misinterpretated and used as her excuse to have her go at Victor.
If anything, I think Jason should be evicted as he is the embodiement of evil, is aggressive, angry and a bad influence on Victor.
Victor is his own man, or thinks he is, and has his own game plan and is actually quite funny. I bet if he didn't have Jason constantly scheming down his ear he wouldn't be so apparently scary.
IMHO!”
“I wouldn't go so far as to say Victor is an idiot but he certainly is funny, and innefectual and hot air. I don't see him as such a violent threat as Jason. Last night's CH4 representation of the fight showed that Victor was trying to break up the fight between Nadia and Jason which Emma misinterpretated and used as her excuse to have her go at Victor.
If anything, I think Jason should be evicted as he is the embodiement of evil, is aggressive, angry and a bad influence on Victor.
Victor is his own man, or thinks he is, and has his own game plan and is actually quite funny. I bet if he didn't have Jason constantly scheming down his ear he wouldn't be so apparently scary.
IMHO!”
Well said, I agree, especially the bit about Victor thinking he's his own man. It couldn't be farther from the truth, he is so easily led and obviously egged on by Jason who definately needs to be chucked out of there before he really hurts someone.
Btw, I dfon't know what they are doing tonight but I know it would be unfair to evict Victor or Emma and not both of them so why not just evict Jason instead. After all, he was the main instigator of the trouble and is still being very intimidating.
Originally Posted by DaveM:
“Being aggressive verbally isn't breaking a rule”
“Being aggressive verbally isn't breaking a rule”
Threatening violence is, just like in real life.
Originally Posted by SuperNova:
“The smart money is on both of them going. Why?
1) They're two evictions behind! This would even it up
2) Victor has broke the rules endless times
3) Emma is mentally unstable (remember Penny?)
4) If one goes and not the other C4 are going to have complaints from viewers plus housemates may kick off again
5) BB have to show seen as showing at least some authority
Both will go tonight ;”
“The smart money is on both of them going. Why?
1) They're two evictions behind! This would even it up
2) Victor has broke the rules endless times
3) Emma is mentally unstable (remember Penny?)
4) If one goes and not the other C4 are going to have complaints from viewers plus housemates may kick off again
5) BB have to show seen as showing at least some authority
Both will go tonight ;”
If nobody goes tonight they will only be one eviction behind as the show is scheduled for an extra week this year. The choices are :
1. Evict one of them tonight by public vote ( give us your money please) if they cannot patch things up
2. Evict nobody and have a double eviction in 2 weeks time.
I think double evictions are very unfair.
The truth is that Emma is still in the bedsit as they are waiting for a bed to become free on the local psychiatric ward. In the meantime she remains in isolation under the infuence of the "liquid cosh". Emma is a prime example as to why it is counter indicated to interrupt regular medication.
Maybe they'll just be sending Kofi Annan into the house to try to help sort it out. Victor did ask for him after all! 
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