720p A Bit Rubbish On The Desire?

dave81uk · 14-08-2010, 20:52

Whats your opinion on this, I have found it rather rubbish, it looks nothing like HD to be honest, infact the video camera on my webcam gives better quality

It looks fine on the phone itself but transfer it to the PC and it looks rubbish, same could be said about its photos to be honest, looks fine on the phone but transfer to PC and its like the photos lack colour

Here is a random photo I shot, as you can see nothing special.

And this is a supposed 720p video, totally random of me lying on the sofa

But look at the quality.

This photo is shot using my 5mp Nokia X6, look how colourful it is.

And this is shot using my 2mp iPhone 3G camera

The HTC Desire seems to come out bottom of the pile

psionic · 14-08-2010, 21:21

Oh dear the Desire fanbois aren't gonna like that !

Seriously though, it's hard to compare quality unless you take the exact same photos/vids of the subject at the same time under the same lighting conditions.

dave81uk · 14-08-2010, 21:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by psionic

Oh dear the Desire fanbois aren't gonna like that !

Seriously though, it's hard to compare quality unless you take the exact same photos/vids of the subject at the same time under the same lighting conditions.

True, I never carry that many phones about with me though, I might conduct a test tomorrow with the desire, iPhone, X6, 5800 and a galaxy s to see who comes out the winner

moox · 14-08-2010, 22:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave81uk

Whats your opinion on this, I have found it rather rubbish, it looks nothing like HD to be honest, infact the video camera on my webcam gives better quality

It looks fine on the phone itself but transfer it to the PC and it looks rubbish, same could be said about its photos to be honest, looks fine on the phone but transfer to PC and its like the photos lack colour

Here is a random photo I shot, as you can see nothing special.

And this is a supposed 720p video, totally random of me lying on the sofa

But look at the quality.

VLC reports that your video is 640x360 - are you sure you had it in 720p mode (it would also likely be a much larger file)?

The 720p mode is reasonably good, under good light, but not good enough to replace an actual camcorder. Not bad for what is effectively a freebie. Sound quality is a bit poor but that seems to affect many of HTC's phones.

The framerate of an actual 720p recording can be somewhat iffy, but I'm not sure whether that's due to not having a high speed memory card (I guess I'll know when my class 6 SDHC card comes).

TheBigM · 14-08-2010, 22:40

Apparently 720p video is pretty choppy under Android 2.1 and upgrading it to 2.2 will improve it noticeably.

moox · 14-08-2010, 22:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBigM

Apparently 720p video is pretty choppy under Android 2.1 and upgrading it to 2.2 will improve it noticeably.

The Desire doesn't do 720p *recording* under 2.1, it was introduced with 2.2.

dave81uk · 14-08-2010, 22:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by moox

The Desire doesn't do 720p *recording* under 2.1, it was introduced with 2.2.

Exactly

pi r squared · 15-08-2010, 01:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by psionic

Oh dear the Desire fanbois aren't gonna like that !

I don't think even the most hardcore Desire fan has ever denied that the camera is a bit shit.

It takes good photos in excellent lighting, and records good video in the same. Any other lighting, it suffers quite badly. I have to "improve" in Picasa pretty much every photo I take with the phone.

webster · 15-08-2010, 01:35

If you edit the video i.e. change the Contrast/Brightness/Saturation. The HD video looks pretty good. I get around 23 fps on the class 4 SD card.

TheToonArmy · 15-08-2010, 01:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave81uk

Whats your opinion on this, I have found it rather rubbish, it looks nothing like HD to be honest, infact the video camera on my webcam gives better quality

It looks fine on the phone itself but transfer it to the PC and it looks rubbish, same could be said about its photos to be honest, looks fine on the phone but transfer to PC and its like the photos lack colour

Here is a random photo I shot, as you can see nothing special.

And this is a supposed 720p video, totally random of me lying on the sofa

But look at the quality.

This photo is shot using my 5mp Nokia X6, look how colourful it is.

And this is shot using my 2mp iPhone 3G camera

The HTC Desire seems to come out bottom of the pile

Its just ridiculous to compare the photo you shot on the desire with the other ones. its like you wanted the desire to come out worse.

Try taking the same picture on all cameras then compare.

g

jim_uk · 15-08-2010, 01:51

The camera certainly isn't very good, fiddle with the settings and don't use auto, things will improve somewhat.

BT@home · 15-08-2010, 11:02

having a strong light source directly in shot, like that window in your video, will cause huge problems, and your "random photo" was poorly lit too (guessing the phone was set for AUTO and incorrectly got the exposure from the bright (but cloudy) sky. For those type of shots your much better getting a focus lock on the scene that you want to capture so that you get the correct exposure.

14-08-2010, 20:52	#1
dave81uk Guest Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,402	720p A Bit Rubbish On The Desire? Whats your opinion on this, I have found it rather rubbish, it looks nothing like HD to be honest, infact the video camera on my webcam gives better quality It looks fine on the phone itself but transfer it to the PC and it looks rubbish, same could be said about its photos to be honest, looks fine on the phone but transfer to PC and its like the photos lack colour Here is a random photo I shot, as you can see nothing special. And this is a supposed 720p video, totally random of me lying on the sofa But look at the quality. This photo is shot using my 5mp Nokia X6, look how colourful it is. And this is shot using my 2mp iPhone 3G camera The HTC Desire seems to come out bottom of the pile

14-08-2010, 21:21	#2
psionic Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Crystal Palace TX Posts: 19,702	Oh dear the Desire fanbois aren't gonna like that ! Seriously though, it's hard to compare quality unless you take the exact same photos/vids of the subject at the same time under the same lighting conditions.

14-08-2010, 21:27	#3
dave81uk Guest Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,402	Quote: Originally Posted by psionic Oh dear the Desire fanbois aren't gonna like that ! Seriously though, it's hard to compare quality unless you take the exact same photos/vids of the subject at the same time under the same lighting conditions. True, I never carry that many phones about with me though, I might conduct a test tomorrow with the desire, iPhone, X6, 5800 and a galaxy s to see who comes out the winner

14-08-2010, 22:27	#4
moox Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 14,645	Quote: Originally Posted by dave81uk Whats your opinion on this, I have found it rather rubbish, it looks nothing like HD to be honest, infact the video camera on my webcam gives better quality It looks fine on the phone itself but transfer it to the PC and it looks rubbish, same could be said about its photos to be honest, looks fine on the phone but transfer to PC and its like the photos lack colour Here is a random photo I shot, as you can see nothing special. And this is a supposed 720p video, totally random of me lying on the sofa But look at the quality. VLC reports that your video is 640x360 - are you sure you had it in 720p mode (it would also likely be a much larger file)? The 720p mode is reasonably good, under good light, but not good enough to replace an actual camcorder. Not bad for what is effectively a freebie. Sound quality is a bit poor but that seems to affect many of HTC's phones. The framerate of an actual 720p recording can be somewhat iffy, but I'm not sure whether that's due to not having a high speed memory card (I guess I'll know when my class 6 SDHC card comes).

14-08-2010, 22:40	#5
TheBigM Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: moon Posts: 12,983	Apparently 720p video is pretty choppy under Android 2.1 and upgrading it to 2.2 will improve it noticeably.

14-08-2010, 22:46	#6
moox Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 14,645	Quote: Originally Posted by TheBigM Apparently 720p video is pretty choppy under Android 2.1 and upgrading it to 2.2 will improve it noticeably. The Desire doesn't do 720p recording under 2.1, it was introduced with 2.2.

14-08-2010, 22:52	#7
dave81uk Guest Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,402	Quote: Originally Posted by moox The Desire doesn't do 720p recording under 2.1, it was introduced with 2.2. Exactly

15-08-2010, 01:23	#8
pi r squared Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4,185	Quote: Originally Posted by psionic Oh dear the Desire fanbois aren't gonna like that ! I don't think even the most hardcore Desire fan has ever denied that the camera is a bit shit. It takes good photos in excellent lighting, and records good video in the same. Any other lighting, it suffers quite badly. I have to "improve" in Picasa pretty much every photo I take with the phone.

15-08-2010, 01:35	#9
webster Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Birmingham,West Midlands, UK Posts: 148	If you edit the video i.e. change the Contrast/Brightness/Saturation. The HD video looks pretty good. I get around 23 fps on the class 4 SD card.

15-08-2010, 01:39	#10
TheToonArmy Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 2,764	Quote: Originally Posted by dave81uk Whats your opinion on this, I have found it rather rubbish, it looks nothing like HD to be honest, infact the video camera on my webcam gives better quality It looks fine on the phone itself but transfer it to the PC and it looks rubbish, same could be said about its photos to be honest, looks fine on the phone but transfer to PC and its like the photos lack colour Here is a random photo I shot, as you can see nothing special. And this is a supposed 720p video, totally random of me lying on the sofa But look at the quality. This photo is shot using my 5mp Nokia X6, look how colourful it is. And this is shot using my 2mp iPhone 3G camera The HTC Desire seems to come out bottom of the pile Its just ridiculous to compare the photo you shot on the desire with the other ones. its like you wanted the desire to come out worse. Try taking the same picture on all cameras then compare. g

15-08-2010, 01:51	#11
jim_uk Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Watford Posts: 12,961	The camera certainly isn't very good, fiddle with the settings and don't use auto, things will improve somewhat.

15-08-2010, 11:02	#12
BT@home Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,911	having a strong light source directly in shot, like that window in your video, will cause huge problems, and your "random photo" was poorly lit too (guessing the phone was set for AUTO and incorrectly got the exposure from the bright (but cloudy) sky. For those type of shots your much better getting a focus lock on the scene that you want to capture so that you get the correct exposure.

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