[susie-4964]

Just come back from 2 weeks abroad where I was chewing the carpet trying to get my e-mail with my Sony Ericsson W995 - couldn't get logged on for more than a few seconds. Yes, I know I shouldn't be bothering when I'm on vacation, but I've got my own business and I can't afford to lose the custom, even if it costs me. I'm looking for a phone that will "push" e-mails, similar to the Blackberry, whenever there's any type of phone connection, to save me having to log on. I'm on Orange, and not looking to change phone provider. Anyone got any ideas?

[Gormond]

Blackberrys are the best for email, something like the bold or the new torch would be a good choice.

[TheBigM]

I would not get the torch, a recent hands-on video I saw had it very sluggish.
Otherwise I concur that Blackberry is still no.1 for business email.

[firefliesuk]

Def the blackberry. I have the bold and love it

[jalal]

Bb 9700

[Vallhund]

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Originally Posted by Gormond

Blackberrys are the best for email, something like the bold or the new torch would be a good choice.

It came down to either a Blackberry for me or a Nokia E series. I chose a Nokia E63 due to concerns about the Blackberry build quality and have since replaced it with a Nokia E72. Very pleased with it.

[zantarous]

Most smartphones will have good email clients, Blackberry if you want a all singing and dancing email phone, but even an Android or iphone have pretty good clients and can do push email with the righ email set up.

[Saint_Errant]

I have found the iphone to be unreliable as an email device with push mails hardly ever working. I personally can't stand the Android set up but if it's Google mail you use, it's fine. Any others are a pain. The Blackberry is by far and away the best email/messaging device and for £5 / month on PAYG with Orange, it is very affordable too.

[chaos77]

a couple of days ago i would have said android, yet reading the BBC news about india and dubai wanting to ban blackberrys due to the fact that all data sent on a blackberry is encrypted and stored on a secure server, then i would recommend a blackberry,

[zantarous]

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Originally Posted by Saint_Errant

I have found the iphone to be unreliable as an email device with push mails hardly ever working. I personally can't stand the Android set up but if it's Google mail you use, it's fine. Any others are a pain. The Blackberry is by far and away the best email/messaging device and for £5 / month on PAYG with Orange, it is very affordable too.

I have mine set up as a exchange account and have my email arrive and notify me immediately, if you used yahoo push then that is broken as heck and not very reliable.

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Originally Posted by chaos77

a couple of days ago i would have said android, yet reading the BBC news about india and dubai wanting to ban blackberrys due to the fact that all data sent on a blackberry is encrypted and stored on a secure server, then i would recommend a blackberry,

I would imagine that is only for Enterprise users, people with one handset will use some form of email hoster and access their email via IMAP. I will admit I know little about how BBs work outside the corporate environment but I suspect it is the same as most other handsets.

[minty82]

Blackberry all the way!

[susie-4964]

Looks as if it will have to be a Blackberry, then. I've already got an iPod Touch, and although I'm very fond of it, I don't really want an iPhone - don't like the feel of it for a phone. Is it easy to set up the Blackberry for Gmail, which is what I use?

[MTUK1]

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Originally Posted by susie-4964

Just come back from 2 weeks abroad where I was chewing the carpet trying to get my e-mail with my Sony Ericsson W995 - couldn't get logged on for more than a few seconds. Yes, I know I shouldn't be bothering when I'm on vacation, but I've got my own business and I can't afford to lose the custom, even if it costs me. I'm looking for a phone that will "push" e-mails, similar to the Blackberry, whenever there's any type of phone connection, to save me having to log on. I'm on Orange, and not looking to change phone provider. Anyone got any ideas?

Remember though that pushing emails to a phone when you're overseas uses up data and prices for data use overseas per MB are extortionate. You could be looking at hundreds or even thousands of pounds in charges for a 2 week holiday. Unless you are near a Wifi connection.

[Aye Up]

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Originally Posted by MTUK1

Remember though that pushing emails to a phone when you're overseas uses up data and prices for data use overseas per MB are extortionate. You could be looking at hundreds or even thousands of pounds in charges for a 2 week holiday. Unless you are near a Wifi connection.

If that were any other phone than a blackberry I'd be worried. However for every non blackberry smartphone ran on a mobile network you can run 4 blackberrys. The compression algorithms used by blackberry sets the standard there isn't a service like it so far as I know. More to the point you will use less data recieving email on a blackberry than any other comparable handset. All information is compressed to around 1/4 of the size before it reaches your device. Blackberry is exceptionally data efficient.

In response to the OP I wholeheartedly recommend a blackberry, if you are happy with Orange, you can get the Curve 8520 on pay as you go for £139 to be taken with a £20 top up, and then you can subscribe to the Blackberry Email service for £5 a month.

[susie-4964]

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Originally Posted by MTUK1

Remember though that pushing emails to a phone when you're overseas uses up data and prices for data use overseas per MB are extortionate. You could be looking at hundreds or even thousands of pounds in charges for a 2 week holiday. Unless you are near a Wifi connection.

Yup, OH has a Blackberry and travels a lot, and his monthly bills are seldom less than £200. The only time I travel without a computer is when I'm on vacation, and this time I managed to bag jobs worth around £3000 by staying in touch (eventually resorted to Internet cafes!), so I reckon it's worth it just for that short time, if I'm getting a new phone anyway. Another less important aspect is that I can tidy up the rubbish in my inbox as I go along, which saves time when I get back home.

[zantarous]

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Originally Posted by Aye Up

If that were any other phone than a blackberry I'd be worried. However for every non blackberry smartphone ran on a mobile network you can run 4 blackberrys. The compression algorithms used by blackberry sets the standard there isn't a service like it so far as I know. More to the point you will use less data recieving email on a blackberry than any other comparable handset. All information is compressed to around 1/4 of the size before it reaches your device. Blackberry is exceptionally data efficient.

In response to the OP I wholeheartedly recommend a blackberry, if you are happy with Orange, you can get the Curve 8520 on pay as you go for £139 to be taken with a £20 top up, and then you can subscribe to the Blackberry Email service for £5 a month.

But do you need a special data plan for this from your provider? if you are just checking hotmail/yahoo/gmail then surely this is just the same.

In Enterprise environments you route data through yoru BES so can compress the data, does this even apply to consumers?

[rivercity_rules]

I used my Android phone (Hero) to access Gmail, Hotmail and my Uni E-mail (I think it was Novell Webwise was the webmail the uni used) and had no issues setting it up or using it, all e-mails arrived instantly, or within 5 minutes of arriving at the most depending on how you sync it (To save battery/allowance it may be better to have half hourly or longer periods to sync but basically it worked really well)

I know Blackberry are meant to be the best and no doubt are, but in my experience an Android phone does well with e-mails too.

[legends wear 7]

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Originally Posted by zantarous

But do you need a special data plan for this from your provider? if you are just checking hotmail/yahoo/gmail then surely this is just the same.

In Enterprise environments you route data through yoru BES so can compress the data, does this even apply to consumers?

Consumer BB uses a BIS, so gets the same compression and security as a BES handset.

[Saint_Errant]

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Originally Posted by susie-4964

Is it easy to set up the Blackberry for Gmail, which is what I use?

Very easy, you simply set it up online or on the phone by putting in your email address and password and it puts a link on your phone which is the folder for the email account (I put all mine in one big folder and have a unified inbox for all messages - but you'll be able to configure it as you like if you get one).
I have heard that Android is reliable for gmail though so it might suit your purpose.