Emma actually said in the fight that she would get her family together to go and beat Victor up. From what I gathered from Victor's conversation, he said if NADIA (not Emma) ran into his girl friends they would 'sort her out' in reference to her arguing, not physically. So in fact Emma is the only one who has threatened violence outside the house.

I completely agree with you here. They certainly need some help - and after her enforced solitary confinement, Emma in particular needs some psych help to deal with her anger and issues.

Victor and Jason could both benefit from anger management too.

I do feel Endemol are rather guilty of putting ratings first and the well-being of the housemates are coming a very poor second.

why dont they make victor sit in the bedsit with emma and watch what she has been watching for the last week - maybe then he will appreciate why she kicked off??

Just had this image of Emma walking out of the bedsit waving a piece of paper with 'peace in our time' written on it

Similar to Mad Max: Thunderdome.

Two men enter, one man leaves. Fight to the death to see who escapes the bedit.

do Victor and Emma know that they will met yet?

and do Van and Dan know that they will not be leaving tonight?

Here’s a conversation Victor and Dan had regarding Emma, whilst they were alone in the garden last night:

Victor: "I haven't got any grudge against that girl, she needs help. She does, she does! Because she's goin' to just keep runnin' into guys like me and just goin' off like."

Dan: "I see in her a real severe pain, you know? And she has this real hard exterior, but she's been through some shit and not all of it she's told. I can just tell... and it saddens me."

Dan: "When someone is that bubbly and that outrageous rest assured that they are hiding something. Something they don't like about themselves, it’s their coping mechanism."

If Emma was to be removed from the house tonight then, Victor, Nadia, Marco and Jason should all be removed as well.
And does Victor not realise that we are all watching what he is up too in there. Even if he is able to influence the votes and keep the cats in, we the viewers have the final vote and he potetially would be the 1st one out on the final night. Or does his gameplan not stretch that far!!

Victor has stated that his only objective now is to ensure he gets the harem evicted first.

Victor knows he can't win, as he said: "No black man has ever survived the public vote."

I didn't see that - I retract my previous statement then!

Vanessa also - all six of them displayed aggression, therefore to be fair and equal, they should all go.

sorry I may be being stupid here, and apologies in advance if I am out of line, but isn't Victor playing the race card by making this statement.

I don't know if this is true or not (am happy to accept that it is) but his ethnicity, I believe, has so little to do with the public's feeling for him. People either dislike him for his shouting and his plotting, or they like him and feel that he has been hard done by. Making it about his colour is unnecessary and actually damaging.

Incidentally, I think he (Victor) would be far more calm and jovial without moody Jason's nasty influence.

It's obvious they were hand picked for this very thing to happen. They want good rating and the way to do that is this. To put someone like Emma in a room watching the others talking about her then bring her out give everyone booze and sit back and wait. I feel sorry for them all. They are being manipulated out of their own personalities. Red rag to a bull syndrome. Terrible. Don't they no they are ruining lives .

I'm not sure about this. Ahmed "displayed aggression" by smashing a load of plates and people mostly laughed or worried about his mental state. People are allowed to get angry, they are allowed to shout at each other and it has certainly happened in the past on BB - remember Alex trying to shut up Jade and Adele?

I think it is only Emma and Victor (so far as I'm aware) that crossed a line, and who also show so much potential to repeat their behaviour.

Except that Victor was never up for Eviction through HMs nominations whereas Emma was. This means that she, along with Michelle and Ahmed were the most unpopular with the other HMs. Why should Victor be the one to sacrifice his position because Emma wanted to settle a score with him (whilst in the bedsit she said this all along) just because he called her thick.

They are both wrong in the way that they deal with their emotions but Emma deliberately sought any opportunity to create conflct and she succeeded.

Its simply a fact, for a lot of people race does come in to it no matter what you wish to believe. Victor made that statement in the first week I think like 1 or 2am in the morning when just him and Stu were up.

As someone has already said Victor's "only objective now is to ensure he gets the harem evicted first."

He and Jason have both said the only reason to be in there now is to make sure none of the harem win.

I totally agree , Jason makes the snowballs and gets van ,vic and ahmed to fire them.

He is manipulating these people to a stage where its now uncomfortable to watch and has gone past the realms of entertainment.

You have gotta love 'hairdresser psychology'.

He very clearly said last night that he thought he'd win a public vote against anyone except Stuart (...crassly enough, he said this to Daniel and then realising the faux par corrected by saying it would be a close thing against Dan). nd

Jason has become just like a bear with a sore head. Pacing around, frowning, plotting, seething.

In the early days I actually really liked him, thought he was quite "normal" and relaxed and so on. He really has got the bit between his teeth now, he is a man obsessed.

If Victor goes into this meeting with the intention of compromising and is able to control himself he has a chance of winning. If he does not then he has no chance.

Yes, Ahmed did display aggression, but the crucial difference is that it wasn't directed towards a person, while Jason and Marco diosplayed aggression towards each other, as did Emma/Victor and Vanessa/Nadia. Sure, people are allowed to get angry, but the point I was making was that if BB are to evict somebody over the fight night, to be really fair it should be all six who participated.

In my opinion, Victor lost any right to stay in the house on the night of the fight. His attempt to assert his "Alpha male" status by intimidating Emma - full well knowing that she wouldn`t back down from such a display of naked male bluster. He probably calculated(after all, he`s not been shy in showing the public through his diary room comments & in his chats with Jayson) that it was the ideal oppertuity to show the viewers that Emma was unreasonable. But unfortunately all he proved was that threatening-& being seen to threaten a smaller woman in full public gaze looked ugly & mysoginistic.
Emma was actually doing rather well during the evening in keeping her own comments to herself & a select few other housemates she deemed worthy of being warned about Victor & Jayson until Jayson started on Marco. All these events have already been done to death on other threads.
I`d rather see Emma face a public vote than be shuffled off behind the scenes-wether she was popular with other HM`s or not.
I do agree that both HM`s didn`t handle the evenings events well...although in Victor`s case, his actions merely confirmed all the "Pseudo-Iago" comentary he`d been making about himself upto that point in time.