Hi

Now that we have a choice of using 'Autopadding' without losing out on series link/EPG tracking, what are new owners using?

Are you sticking with accurate recording, or are you going try auto-padding?

I'm sticking with 2 minutes of pre and 5 minutes of post autopadding to avoid accurate recording chopping of the start or finish.

Also, I need to run a couple more tests to be sure, however I think the behaviour with autopadding has been modified. If tuners are available, padding is maintained and not dropped when programs follow on.

Regards

Phil

We do? Presumably only on the HDR-FOX T2, not on e.g. 9300?

I suppose as the title of the thread is "Humax Freeview HDR-FOX T2 Accurate recording or Autopadding" then that might answer your question.

It seems to me that what is needed is some detailed testing to see whether the HDR responds more promptly to the "start flag" than th earlier models. I think Colin's testing of a 9200 against a Vestel suggests that with the odd exception the major channels do a good job of flagging the start of programs and the majority of problems that people experience are with the delayed response of the 9200/9300, particularly with early running programs.

No need for sarcasm. This forum is just "Humax" so I wanted to clarify whether this change applied to other models also. Sadly, your unhelpful reply leaves me none the wiser.

I just assumed you'd missed the title of the thread.

As far as I'm aware (I use a 9200) the earlier machines do not allow SL/AR with padding.

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I've got both the 9200T and the FOX-T2 set up, I might do some testing when I get chance.

The 9200/9300 models may lag a little perhaps, but that doesn't explain the recordings that accurate recording seem to cause to truncate, as the lag would work in favour of getting more of the end.

Regards

Phil

I've been comparing notes with Colin over some considerable time using my Panasonic machine against my 9200, the recording start times for my Panasonic and Colin's Vestel compare very closely. Although our Hummies usually start recording later than our other machines we have found that the recording end times on all machines are just about identical.

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Thanks for the info, so it seems the truncated recordings at the start/end or both are really down to in-accurate accurate recording signals

I'm sticking with padding then, start and end times are safer under my control.

Regards

Phil

How do you come to that conclusion?

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"Found that the recording end times on all machines are just about identical." So it would be a coincidence if the machines were both faulty and both happened to be stopping incorrectly at the same time.

It is a common enough complaint truncated recordings on accurate recording, and I was only talking about this annoying problem with a colleague the other day and they are using different equipment again.

Regards

Phil

I hardly ever get a recording that ends before the programme has ended, on a commercial channel (at least the ones I record from) the recording end is usually at the beginning of the theme tune for the next programme.

Could the problem with accurate record be down to ropey signal quality / impulse interference?

Up until recently many programs from BBC2 were cutting off before the end of the program (before even the credits have started). I had never noticed this problem until the past few months. The BBC seem to have improved though because the last few weeks have had been a noticeable improvement.

This is on a 9200, although this box can start the recordings slightly late as mentioned above it seems unlikely that it is stopping before the AR signal is sent. There are no follow on recordings when this has happened.

To summarise the Accurate-Recording performance for the 9200 (and probably the 9300/9150) a recording start delay of 30 seconds or more can be expected if the programme being recorded starts before its scheduled time. For a programme starting after its scheduled time a recording start delay of just a few seconds can be expected. Ironically the Hummy seems to respond instantly to the stop signal. By the way I’ve never believed there is a discrete ‘start’ and ‘stop’ signal that could be missed by a PVR, I understand there is a status change in the data for the duration of the programme, but using the term start/stop signal is convenient.

To bring the thread back closer to topic it would be interesting to see how the new machine performs compared to the results for the 9200 that both Colin and I have observed.

Yes that summarises my belief with the side note that there is a known quirk that under certain circumstance can cause the Humax to stop early when another program starts.

Agreed again.

This is exactly what I suggested earlier.