Matt just doesn't seem to have the imagination needed. He is just another "them and us" type of player.
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Originally Posted by mindset:
“The trouble is....Lane already has an F2 deal (he believes) with Hayden. Hence, Lane is still on the fence.”
“The trouble is....Lane already has an F2 deal (he believes) with Hayden. Hence, Lane is still on the fence.”
Yeah, he needs to realise that Hayden and Enzo are shady and not to be trusted.
The DR needs to get to Lane!
Originally Posted by ama2k9:
“Matt still needs the Brigade. And at this point, if any of them betray him next week, they will lose a lot of jury votes. If they backstab matt, and send him home, whoever is in the final with a Brigade member, will win!
I dont think think any of them has the balls to pull the trigger on Matt. Hayden aint never gonna do it. He will do his best to throw him under the bus to others, but he will not do anything himself. Enzo talks big , but wont betray the Brigade, and neither will Lane.
At the end of the day, Matt is sitting pretty. I dont see him leaving, and I think its a good move, because you know if he aligns himself with Britney, or she is not trustworthy at all, neither is Kathy!”
“Matt still needs the Brigade. And at this point, if any of them betray him next week, they will lose a lot of jury votes. If they backstab matt, and send him home, whoever is in the final with a Brigade member, will win!
I dont think think any of them has the balls to pull the trigger on Matt. Hayden aint never gonna do it. He will do his best to throw him under the bus to others, but he will not do anything himself. Enzo talks big , but wont betray the Brigade, and neither will Lane.
At the end of the day, Matt is sitting pretty. I dont see him leaving, and I think its a good move, because you know if he aligns himself with Britney, or she is not trustworthy at all, neither is Kathy!”
That's why Hayden was pushing so hard to get Matt out this week. If that happened Brendon would have the blood on his hands not himself, now the only way to really get him out before the Final 5 is if a Brigade members puts him up for eviction themselves.
I just can't see a non Brigade member winning at the moment. Whatever the HG's in there say they would be too embarrassed to vote for Kathy if she make the Final 2 imo, Brendon/Ragan/Brit all have too many people that don't like them for them to win. Obviously you don't know how the jury will end up voting but still the Brigade have to be massive favourites whatever happens from here.
Its not a question of whether they have the balls or not, putting up Matt themselves would just be plain stupid. Matt will spill everything about the Brigade if they do and try to turn the whole house, this one and the jury one, against them.
Matt isn't sitting pretty at all anymore imo. The Brigade doesn't trust him and neither does Britney by the sound of it, he's only really got Ragan left.
Originally Posted by Redmond:
“Yeah, he needs to realise that Hayden and Enzo are shady and not to be trusted.
The DR needs to get to Lane!
”
“Yeah, he needs to realise that Hayden and Enzo are shady and not to be trusted.
The DR needs to get to Lane!
”
And I think Lane isnt as stupid as he looks! I think he does see that Hayden and Enzo cannot be trusted, and Matt can!
At least he shold! LOL!
Originally Posted by fab cesc:
“Its not a question of whether they have the balls or not, putting up Matt themselves would just be plain stupid. Matt will spill everything about the Brigade if they do and try to turn the whole house, this one and the jury one, against them. ”
“Its not a question of whether they have the balls or not, putting up Matt themselves would just be plain stupid. Matt will spill everything about the Brigade if they do and try to turn the whole house, this one and the jury one, against them. ”
No one would believe him if he came out with it right now, let alone if they ever get him on the block. No one in there trusts him, thanks to his "friends".
Brendon already told Britney that one of Matt's "friends" pushed to get him out (Hayden). She told them all and no one believed it. Including Matt.
Originally Posted by ama2k9:
“I dont think he will! I have a feeling Lane would go with Matt, and have a final 4 with Ragan and Britney!”
“I dont think he will! I have a feeling Lane would go with Matt, and have a final 4 with Ragan and Britney!”
Lane would have a much better chance of winning if he did that but sadly I can't see it happening unless Enzo slips up.
Originally Posted by Redmond:
“If Lane has any sense, he would trust what Matt is saying. Lane was in the same room when Enzo and Hayden were discussing keeping Brendon next week and putting up Ragan and Britney! Lane has got to see what is going on.
Lane needs to make a proper alliance with Britney quick sharp. And bring Ragan in too.”
“If Lane has any sense, he would trust what Matt is saying. Lane was in the same room when Enzo and Hayden were discussing keeping Brendon next week and putting up Ragan and Britney! Lane has got to see what is going on.
Lane needs to make a proper alliance with Britney quick sharp. And bring Ragan in too.”
When do you think Enzo and Hayden will try and get Lane out? I reckon Enzo's ideal Final 4 is himself/Brendon/Kathy/Hayden so he might target Lane pretty soon, Hayden has that deal with Lane so I'm not so sure what he'd try and do.
Originally Posted by mindset:
“Matt and Lane talk.
Matt: " it pisses me off that those 2 (Enzo and Hayden) dont want to take out Brendon. "
Matt scathing about Enzo and Hayden's tactics.....
"If I stay, I don't know what to do....stay with them....or join up with Brit and Ragan...."
Lane is non-committal”
“Matt and Lane talk.
Matt: " it pisses me off that those 2 (Enzo and Hayden) dont want to take out Brendon. "
Matt scathing about Enzo and Hayden's tactics.....
"If I stay, I don't know what to do....stay with them....or join up with Brit and Ragan...."
Lane is non-committal”
Ohh that's pretty promising imo. If Matt's going to be totally honest with anyone in that house it's going to be Lane.
Originally Posted by fab cesc:
“Who did Britney tell that to?”
“Who did Britney tell that to?”
The Brigade plus Ragan in the CR earlier.
Enzo was furious about it later......
Originally Posted by fab cesc:
“When do you think Enzo and Hayden will try and get Lane out? I reckon Enzo's ideal Final 4 is himself/Brendon/Kathy/Hayden so he might target Lane pretty soon, Hayden has that deal with Lane so I'm not so sure what he'd try and do. ”
“When do you think Enzo and Hayden will try and get Lane out? I reckon Enzo's ideal Final 4 is himself/Brendon/Kathy/Hayden so he might target Lane pretty soon, Hayden has that deal with Lane so I'm not so sure what he'd try and do. ”
Hayden also has an F2 deal with Enzo. It wouldn't surprise me if he had or will get one with Brendon too. Hayden doesn't have any real deals, he has set up a series of contingencies. He can do whatever suits him at any particular time, with any particular person.
Enzo and Hayden talk to Matt in the SR
Nothing special, but as they leave....
Enzo:"This sucks!!!!"
Hayden: "This sucks baaad dude"
Enzo: "We gotta tell him"
Hayden: "That we're not voting for him"
Enzo:"Yeahhhh"
Hayden: "We'll do it Thursday, I know just how to tell him...."
Wonder what Matt's reaction might be......
Nothing special, but as they leave....
Enzo:"This sucks!!!!"
Hayden: "This sucks baaad dude"
Enzo: "We gotta tell him"
Hayden: "That we're not voting for him"
Enzo:"Yeahhhh"
Hayden: "We'll do it Thursday, I know just how to tell him...."
Wonder what Matt's reaction might be......
Matt saying he only wants one of the Brigade to win if they are straight up. Enzo agree's but I think the only person Matt is talking about there is Lane
Britney called back to the DR in very quick succession. Are they trying to make the other HG's think she ...ahem....might have won something Secret....like a Power?
Atleast Enzo can look Matt in the eye, despite "guilty" knowledge, because he genuinely wanted Britney out this week. It's telling that Hayden isn't even attempting to babysit him out of the house.........hope Matt realises it.
Yeah haydens body language when they were in the storage room was so telling. He was constantly looking away, and walking away from Matt. His demeanour was so telling. And he couldnt hide it! I am sure Matt sees that! He must at least
Apparently Matt was having a conversation with Enzo and as soon as Enzo left Matt looked straight at the camera and made a devil horns hand signal. Please, please, please let that not be some other stupid hand signal that the Brigade made 
Originally Posted by fab cesc:
“Apparently Matt was having a conversation with Enzo and as soon as Enzo left Matt looked straight at the camera and made a devil horns hand signal. Please, please, please let that not be some other stupid hand signal that the Brigade made ;eek:”
“Apparently Matt was having a conversation with Enzo and as soon as Enzo left Matt looked straight at the camera and made a devil horns hand signal. Please, please, please let that not be some other stupid hand signal that the Brigade made ;eek:”
Yep, I saw that.....
He knows Enzo and Hayden were charged with getting Britney up and out. And obviously failed.
WHATM: Lane and Hayden now thinking Matt has a Secret Power.
Lane: Matt got 2 bad things
Hayden: He got some sort of power
Lane: Thats a good thing, I would vote Britney out
Hayden: I think its a good thing as well
Lane: You can't tell people when you have a power can you? Maybe he did really get a dollar though.
They're getting closer and closer to figuring it out.
Hayden: He got some sort of power
Lane: Thats a good thing, I would vote Britney out
Hayden: I think its a good thing as well
Lane: You can't tell people when you have a power can you? Maybe he did really get a dollar though.
They're getting closer and closer to figuring it out.
Well Matt has all but given them a PowerPoint presentation on him having a power, I'm surprised it's taken them this long to work it out!
I've never been so glad that Enzo's an idiot, he doesn't believe that Matt has a power at all. Hopefully he can convince Hayden that he doesn't as well.
Haha I love the DR, as soon as Hayden talks about Matt getting a power from PB they call him to the DR.
The trouble with all Matt's Secret Power talk, it will cause the Brigade to be extra careful with what they say to him......(as Enzo said). Matt will find it difficult to learn anything new now.
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