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Old 20-08-2010, 09:47
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I can understand everyone hating the XFactor, yes, it's to make money, but it's enjoyable to watch the auditions, then it's good to see the worlds biggest stars perform in the live finals, along with the finalists.

But even more so, why hate the talent it churns out? Yes, most bands have to work to get successful, but these winners, or finalists have raw talent, which is more than what most of these bands around have at the minute!

I personally hate JLS, but Alexandra consistently releases good music, and she's released a good album. People somehow think JLS are better than her, but then again it's her material you'll remember (bad boys, all night long) not the likes of (the club is alive, one shot).

Diana released one of the best albums this year, yes you either love her or loath her, personally i 'like' her. She's ok, her voice can grate on you, but i think her sound is very now, and unique.

As for Olly, he's also another marmite situation. Yes, he may sound a bit like Will Young, BUT Wills most definitely out of the picture now, and Olly's new single is, ok.

I don't mean to go on, i just think it's pathetic the way people drone on about the XFactor, when it's good television! Accept it's here to make money, and enjoy seeing the acts progress and grow.
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Old 20-08-2010, 09:55
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I hate X-Factor Because its an Easy way of Money Making.

Like Previous Winners.

One minute they are No-Ones next Second they Millionaires.

The average working Guy, slogs his guts out for no reward.

So X-Factor and other Rubbish shows are mostly to blame
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Old 20-08-2010, 09:57
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Pretty much for all the reasons posted in the other "we hate X Factor" thread.
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Old 20-08-2010, 09:58
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It's because it's a glorified karaoke contest. It's good to watch but you don't want to put up with what comes after. And usually, the stuff which comes after is heavily influenced by the program anyway which is the main reason it sells in the short term. The program acts as a massive promotion push for the "talent" which come from it.

The acts are also so heavily controlled by the show (or indeed Simon Cowell et al) that they spew out the most clichéd nonsense ever.
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Old 20-08-2010, 09:59
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Another thing that gets my Goat that is the amount of Publicity Cheryl Cole got when she had Malaria.

Had it been any other normal Person, Noone would of battered an eyelid.
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Old 20-08-2010, 10:09
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X Factor is a great TV show. Very entertaining. I usually watch it, but I have no interest in buying any of the music it produces.

But why should someone who isn't interested in this sort of music have to explain why, any more than someone who doesn't like, say, death metal or opera or jazz or whatever?

The music produced by X Factor acts gets a lot of publicity, but that doesn't mean that everyone should have to like it or explain themselves when they don't.
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Old 20-08-2010, 10:15
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It is predictable and it is mainly the if you are remotely good looking or have a gimmick then you are in the live shows if you can sing well then you will not get far on the show. Saying that I did like Jamie Archer last series.
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Old 20-08-2010, 10:22
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The music is shit.
Contestants are pub karaoke turns at best.
Judges are a joke.
An egomaniac, a dodgy boyband manager, a nasty woman who can't sing for toffee and a talentless has been Australian - some f***king panel.

TV for morons.
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Old 20-08-2010, 10:39
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As for Olly, he's also another marmite situation. Yes, he may sound a bit like Will Young, BUT Wills most definitely out of the picture now, and Olly's new single is, ok.
Rubbish! Will's career is going from strength to strength. Just because he isn't in the charts doesn't mean he isn't doing extremely well. He has just finished a huge tour of stately homes and other prestigious venues. 10,000 people were in the audience at the Osborne House gig on 31 July and an equal number (or maybe a little less) at most of the other shows. 15,000 people watched him at last year's Isle of Wight Festival.

He also has been playing at the 606 jazz club recently - all sell out gigs.

He is currently filming a six-part ghost story for Living TV, their first foray into original drama. He has a small cameo role in Marple to be aired later this year. He is making a new album of dance tracks which should be out in the New Year. Not bad for someone "out of the picture"!
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Old 20-08-2010, 10:49
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It's because it's a glorified karaoke contest. It's good to watch but you don't want to put up with what comes after. And usually, the stuff which comes after is heavily influenced by the program anyway which is the main reason it sells in the short term. The program acts as a massive promotion push for the "talent" which come from it.

The acts are also so heavily controlled by the show (or indeed Simon Cowell et al) that they spew out the most clichéd nonsense ever.
^This.

Also, in its early stages I find the talent show format border line exploitative of some people that seem quite vulnerable.

I think it tends in some cases to over promote people who's talent does not justify the level of exposure, I think the chart success or lack thereof of some of the winners illustrates this.

Thats not to say that talented people haven't found exposure through the format, Will young, Girls Aloud have had actual proper long term careers but sadly they are in the minority.

For every Will Young there are 3 Shane Warne's.
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Old 20-08-2010, 10:50
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Because it's just sheer crap.

I don't think there's anything good about it.

I went to the first tour, & no, not my choice, I went with my mother, as she wouldn't go by herself. Why? I don't know.
& we were on the balcony. I was on the verge of throwing myself off.

I couldn't believe how bad they were.
No one stood out. Not even the winner.

It's just a joke.
If these people were SO good, why do they need a TV show to make it?
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Old 20-08-2010, 10:54
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But even more so, why hate the talent it churns out?
Sorry for the double post.

But this gets to the root of the propblem with X-factor. "Talent" shouldn't be "churned out" it should be discovered, developed, nurtured but never "churned out".
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Old 20-08-2010, 10:55
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I don't like how it suggests that to be successful in the music business, all you need is a good voice. Essentially it just tosses the importance of people who play instruments into the trash can. Hence it's a glorified karaoke contest.

Don't get me wrong, it can be a very good watch at times, but as soon as it's over, that's all for me.
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Old 20-08-2010, 11:10
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Because it's just sheer crap.

I don't think there's anything good about it.

I went to the first tour, & no, not my choice, I went with my mother, as she wouldn't go by herself. Why? I don't know.
& we were on the balcony. I was on the verge of throwing myself off.


I couldn't believe how bad they were.
No one stood out. Not even the winner.

It's just a joke.
If these people were SO good, why do they need a TV show to make it?
LOL.

Yeah, really as other people have said, its a good entertainment show, but thats it.

Most if not all of the acts who have won, dont really deserve the success they have had, when far more talented people cant get a break.

Thats not to say I dont wish the winners well, I do, but its very unfair.

Particularly now that mainstream charts are so bland and lacking in diversity and talent.

Although I like Danni as a person, and to a point, Cherly, the panel as others have said, is a bit of joke.

Its like when Walsh says's he had 26 number one's-yeah he may have done, but they are mostly covers and lack any originality.

There not going to find the next Rolling Stones, MJ or Gaga for that matter on this programme despite what Cowell claims.

And beside's even if they did discover the next Rolling Stones, MJ or Gaga, they would be creatively stifled and forced to sing crap songs.

Alexandra can sing, but the stuff she is singing sounds like crap 90s europop to me, it certainly is'nt r 'n' b no matter which rapper is being featured.

She might as well just cover this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3ltZmI5LQw
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Old 20-08-2010, 11:47
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Basically because people can spend years gigging up and down the country playing pubs and clubs,honing their songwriting skills and gradually building up a following,whilst someone who doesn't have a clue how to write music or play an instrument,and has,in some cases,an average voice,can go from obscurity to super-stardom in five minutes flat. Fortunately most of them will last only as long as it takes for the public to get bored with them before disappearing back into obscurity. As before,X-Factor and its like is nothing more than a glorified karaoke contest for people who would never get anywhere without it,and is an insult to genuine musicians and talent.
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Old 20-08-2010, 11:53
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I don't watch it 'cause it's boring and the format is past its sell by date and it's overhyped everywhere, on TV, on the net and in the papers. It's really just a pub karaoke in a TV format.
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Old 20-08-2010, 11:53
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i watch it coz its funny slagging them all off with everyone. it brings us all together in a way.
but i honestly don't know who or why someone would purchase the resulting garbage. i guess its just a naive kids thing.
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Old 20-08-2010, 12:24
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The show is all about the judges (Cheryl Cole trying to make her career more successful, Simon going on about how great these acts that come back have done, which compared to most is only okay)

All the winners are moulded, scultured, fiddled around with like a lump of clay. Moulded into a carbon copy of what young kids are addicted to. Simon Knows this. He makes out that it's such a big deal when they get to number one, Bad Boys wouldn't have sold near enough the amount it got if it was buy a normal singer. JLS are only played because of thier looks, i mean Radios can't actully think The Club IS Alive is good compared to say Gabreilla Cilmi and a few more artists that get completely turned out.

Evereything they do, release is down to whats gonna sell, they get the best promotion, radio support etc (and don't say alex dosen't because thier is more than 1 radio), which Simon cannot praise them if they don't hit the top spot. (example of this is that everytime last year one of his puppets hit number one he was like well done, yay, go you, but when leona hit number 2 he didn't seem to think it was not worth mentioning, proving he just wants the highest placements.

Dreading to think what Joe's been turned into and suprise suprise, he's albums out this year.
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Old 20-08-2010, 12:57
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People hate how contrived it is.

Over-manufacturing artists is nothing new, but these types of shows expose the process for entertainment within itself. Essentially it is a glorified karaoke contest, we love the thrill of the competition but when the winner is crowned we lose interest. There's certainly a "take your prize and leave, we're over it now" mentality.

When you consider how many millions of people watch the X Factor in comparison to how many people actually go buy the winners single, and/or their debut album...it's pretty disproportionate, even keeping in mind that around half wanted the other to win.

I suppose that echo's mine, and others, feelings that the show is a good laugh...it is what it is, Saturday entertainment that people talk about...but when we're told to take it seriously, many people lose interest.

Also doesn't help that Cowell is always looking for the poor mans version of a major star. Leona Lewis being Mariah Carey-lite, Alexandra Burke being the poor mans Beyonce, Leon Jackson and Shane Ward as Buble and Timberlake respectively.

This year he's said he wants to find the "new" Lady Gaga. Clearly he fails to see the appeal with her, if he thinks throwing a costume on some Essex lass is going to have the same effect.
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Old 20-08-2010, 13:01
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This year he's said he wants to find the "new" Lady Gaga. Clearly he fails to see the appeal with her, if he thinks throwing a costume on some Essex lass is going to have the same effect.
The results of that, could in fairness be very, very funny.
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Old 20-08-2010, 13:05
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Rubbish! Will's career is going from strength to strength. Just because he isn't in the charts doesn't mean he isn't doing extremely well. He has just finished a huge tour of stately homes and other prestigious venues. 10,000 people were in the audience at the Osborne House gig on 31 July and an equal number (or maybe a little less) at most of the other shows. 15,000 people watched him at last year's Isle of Wight Festival.
All of them were Festivals, there's a difference. People didn't go just to see him, they most likely went to see the likes of the saturdays and ndubz. Hardly a sell out tour, when it was a festival, he wasn't even headlining.
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Old 20-08-2010, 13:06
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The music is shit.
Contestants are pub karaoke turns at best.
Judges are a joke.
An egomaniac, a dodgy boyband manager, a nasty woman who can't sing for toffee and a talentless has been Australian - some f***king panel.

TV for morons.
Pub Singers?
The talent this show churns out, the likes of Alexandra and Leona prove that they aren't just pub singers, they have incredible voices.
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Old 20-08-2010, 13:07
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The results of that, could in fairness be very, very funny.
I know! I'm actually kind of looking forward to how hilariously awful it will be. But at the same time, dreading the minions who lap it up.

They aren't allowed to play their own instruments or do anything risque, so really she's just going to be some random girl prancing about the stage in leggings and a hair bow, being told they're "quirky".
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Old 20-08-2010, 13:20
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The talent this show churns out, the likes of Alexandra and Leona prove that they aren't just pub singers, they have incredible voices.
LOL

Wait.

That was a joke right?

As others have said, and has been said many many many times before - It's like a massive karoke contest, I've ZERO respect for anyone on this show.

When they make a new version where the people are allowed to come in, sing their own songs and play their own instruments then maybe, maybe I'll pay attention.

While they are making there success based on someone elses talent I shall show them the contempt they deserve.
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Old 20-08-2010, 13:21
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I like The X Factor as I enjoy music. Simples.

Can't wait for the new series to begin, and most people here slagging it off will end up watching it and getting sucked into the hype of it.
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