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Old 23-08-2010, 12:25
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X factor bosses have admitted to using auto tuning for the previous show. According to the BBC.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11056050

Apparently it's because the microphones weren't working.

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Old 23-08-2010, 12:36
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The microphones weren't working... but sound came out of them and they autotuned it? Eh?!

It's bollocks. I have no idea why they done it to begin with. They probably wanted it to be more "glamorous".
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Old 23-08-2010, 12:38
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I just find it hilarious how X Factor fans are getting so annoyed at this auto-tune thing. What do they expect? We all know genuine talent is the last thing Cowell is interested in. Thought everyone knew that by now, so why is anyone surprised or 'outraged'? There's just no telling some people...
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Old 23-08-2010, 12:49
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Cowell's excuse no doubt will be that 'everyone in the business uses autotune and backing vocals, we just want to give the contestants the real experience'.

I have to agree with kutox though. The X Factor never was a credible singing competition, it's manufactured to the very core...so I don't see why people are surprised that the vocals are tampered with. I thought the amount of vocal 'aid' last year was obvious. I mean, some acts - i.e. Jedward/Olly etc. had so much backing track that they didn't even need to sing for the song to be heard.

If the outrage translates to the show being boycotted, wonderful, but it won't, so...
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Old 23-08-2010, 13:05
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It's just show-biz - nothing to get upset about. Plus just about every record these days uses auto-tune to some degree, even Michael Buble who can sing.
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Old 23-08-2010, 13:22
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It's just show-biz - nothing to get upset about. Plus just about every record these days uses auto-tune to some degree, even Michael Buble who can sing.
I think most people can understand autotune being used to a certain extent on studio albums, that isn't the issue. But when you're using it LIVE on a so-called TALENT competition, then that's just disgraceful.
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Old 23-08-2010, 13:29
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I don't really see why anyone would be surprised by this, there's always something that annoys X Factor fans (as in the ones that take the show seriously) every year and every year they say "that's it I'm never watching the show again" but they always go back and watch it religiously and buy whatever crap comes out of it.

Simon and co can do what they want and get away with it as long as the punters keep viewing the show and buying the records.

I think most people can understand autotune being used to a certain extent on studio albums, that isn't the issue. But when you're using it LIVE on a so-called TALENT competition, then that's just disgraceful.
but X Factor is/always was disgraceful in terms of "talent" the show is full of contradictions, this is just one in a long line of things. its not a talent show, its an entertainment programme. do you really think that "release me, release us" woman would have got through if it was a talent competition.. and Jedward are the most well known to come out of last years show, what does that tell you?
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Old 23-08-2010, 13:31
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I think most people can understand autotune being used to a certain extent on studio albums, that isn't the issue. But when you're using it LIVE on a so-called TALENT competition, then that's just disgraceful.
They didn't use it live, the auditions don't go out live.

They tweaked it in the studio.

You can't really use auto tune on a live perfromance unless you are just using it as a special effect.
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Old 23-08-2010, 13:36
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does anyone no if simon cowell has confirmed weather he is going to release all thier performances.
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Old 23-08-2010, 13:38
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As a pitch corrector to rectify the odd bum note in a recording session to save having to record it all over again it's fine.
Saves money on expensive studio time.

But tweaking it to such a degree that the vocals sound robotic is just ridiculous to me.

Why do people want singers to sound robotic????


I watched Glee to see what all the fuss was about and the vocals on that are autotuned to the nth degree. I couldn't bear it.

And for me the whole point of watching X Factor is to cringe at the tuneless delusional 'singers' - so if their bum notes are going to be pitch corrected so much that they all sound like Marvin the Paranoid Android then why bother to watch?
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Old 23-08-2010, 13:39
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I think most people can understand autotune being used to a certain extent on studio albums, that isn't the issue. But when you're using it LIVE on a so-called TALENT competition, then that's just disgraceful.
But is the X-Factor a genuine talent competition? I don't think so - if it were would you really have the likes of Danni, Cheryl and Geri (and Louis for that matter) judging?

It's micro-managed TV entertainment to make money for Simon who I'd wager already knows who the winner is.
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Old 23-08-2010, 13:47
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Seems to me that this has just been done to provoke a bit of a reaction, get a few headlines and boost viewing figures - which I'm sure it will succeed in doing.

Surely no-one took the X Factor seriously as a talent show anyway?
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Old 23-08-2010, 14:04
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But is the X-Factor a genuine talent competition? I don't think so - if it were would you really have the likes of Danni, Cheryl and Geri (and Louis for that matter) judging?

It's micro-managed TV entertainment to make money for Simon who I'd wager already knows who the winner is.
Oh I know, I totally agree with that. I think it lost all credibility as a talent contest whenever Jedward were kept in to boost viewing figures. I don't watch it personally, but it annoys me that they'll undoubtedly get away with this, because their loyal (deluded?) fans will keep watching no matter what happens.
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Old 23-08-2010, 14:10
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I wonder if they have an auto-tune which makes people's voices terrible! They seem to have used it on Saturday.
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Old 23-08-2010, 14:14
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It mightn't have been so bad if the autotune wasn't stuck in "Britney Spears' - Piece of Me" mode. They all sounded so robotic. Total cringe
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Old 23-08-2010, 15:09
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You can't really use auto tune on a live perfromance unless you are just using it as a special effect.
Yes you can, and X Factor used it last year on certain acts, like Danyl.

It is also incredibly expensive, as it requires a dedicated live sound engineer just with the autotune deck.
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Old 23-08-2010, 16:04
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Here is when autotune works....

watch the first report [ approx 1.02 in ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzNhaLUT520

and then see it autotuned....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKsVSBhSwJg



If Simon sees this do you think he'd sign the guy?

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Old 23-08-2010, 16:13
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It was all just a publicity stunt, comeon you need special equipment / configurations for autotune
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Old 23-08-2010, 17:56
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Here is when autotune works....

watch the first report [ approx 1.02 in ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzNhaLUT520

and then see it autotuned....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKsVSBhSwJg



If Simon sees this do you think he'd sign the guy?



Wow, that's amazing! I had no idea you could LITERALLY make a melody out of normal speech The effects people have nowadays is truly remarkable. That sounded like the guy had orginally sung it, you would never know he was just talking. Makes you think, if you can do it with a news report, could people just talk the lyrics in a studio, and the make it into a song.
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Old 23-08-2010, 18:22
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Wow, that's amazing! I had no idea you could LITERALLY make a melody out of normal speech The effects people have nowadays is truly remarkable. That sounded like the guy had orginally sung it, you would never know he was just talking. Makes you think, if you can do it with a news report, could people just talk the lyrics in a studio, and the make it into a song.
Yes they can.
So a tool which was developed to save time re recording the occasional 'sour' note in a recording session has now been used for this.

And to make people who are always out of tune sound in tune.

Wonder if it could work on Jedward though? Maybe that IS stretching technology too far?
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Old 23-08-2010, 18:25
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I simply think that we should be allowed to see and hear what the judges see and hear. That's all I expect from The X Factor and shows like it - I am fully aware that most of it is scripted, staged and manufactured, but I honestly would have thought we'd be able to hear the singers' real voices. We're supposed to be voting for them, we deserve to know how they really sound.
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Old 23-08-2010, 18:34
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I simply think that we should be allowed to see and hear what the judges see and hear. That's all I expect from The X Factor and shows like it - I am fully aware that most of it is scripted, staged and manufactured, but I honestly would have thought we'd be able to hear the singers' real voices. We're supposed to be voting for them, we deserve to know how they really sound.

Exactly.
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