Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Who was on Studio Five yesterday that got it an extra few viewers?”
“Who was on Studio Five yesterday that got it an extra few viewers?”
Nikki Grahame and Maroon 5.
The Ratings Thread (Part 11)
105 of 121
Originally Posted by sugapunk:
“It's amazing to think that Channel 4 (and its spin-offs) can commission what the BBC can't.
I mean, The IT Crowd, Peep Show, The Inbetweeners etc aren't the best scripted comedies of all time, but they're certainly a hell lot a lot better than anything the BBC has commissioned over the last few years.”
“It's amazing to think that Channel 4 (and its spin-offs) can commission what the BBC can't.
I mean, The IT Crowd, Peep Show, The Inbetweeners etc aren't the best scripted comedies of all time, but they're certainly a hell lot a lot better than anything the BBC has commissioned over the last few years.”
I'm not having that, I'm afraid, The Inbetweeners might possibly be E4's first sitcom this year, whereas BBC3 have done umpteen, I know most of them aren't very good but they're certainly making the effort. And as has been said, the old Friday comedy night has gone for a burton, you now get one comedy show a week. A few years back they had no scripted comedy of any kind, just format shows like My New Best Friend and, yes, Balls of Steel. That comedy season they had recently was just a load of stand-up DVDs.
It's emphasised by the fact that last year they did that New Heroes of Comedy, those biographies on a Friday night, which featured Sacha Baron Cohen, Ricky Gervais and Lucas and Walliams - what have they got in common? They all started on Channel Four but all left and the latter two became famous via the BBC. Simon Amstell's another one who started on Channel Four but they couldn't find anything for him so he went to the Beeb to become famous.*
The argument is that C4 is there to break new talent and it's right people move on and new people replace them, but then they indulge Peter Kay over and over again. In fact most Fridays last year seemed to be Peter Kay repeats.
* The fact that Friday nights were devoted to a load of clips of Ricky Gervais says something as well, especially as the break bumpers announced "Original comedy sponsored by Grolsch".
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Yeah, and Bruce did a series of one of his quizzes (Play Your Cards Right?) on ITV in spring or summer 1994, before ending his BBC contract with his final series of the Generation Game a few months later.”
“Yeah, and Bruce did a series of one of his quizzes (Play Your Cards Right?) on ITV in spring or summer 1994, before ending his BBC contract with his final series of the Generation Game a few months later.”
Yes, it is a bit strange, when he moved over to the Beeb in 1990 I seem to remember him doing Takeover Bid for the Beeb at the start of the year, then his final series of You Bet for ITV, then the Gen Game for the Beeb, and indeed in 1994 he did do Play Your Cards Right before his final series of the Gen Game.
That last series of the Generation Game was a bit odd, of course he missed one through illness and Jim Davidson did it, but I remember another episode midway run which was a clip show, which certainly wasn't billed in the Radio Times, although Brucie did new links.
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Speaking about sitcoms, Him & Her seems to be doing well, increasing its audience by 100k week-on-week. That's probably the last we've seen of Grandma's House, it's been plumetting since the first episode and yesterday it was killed off by the tough competition.”
“Speaking about sitcoms, Him & Her seems to be doing well, increasing its audience by 100k week-on-week. That's probably the last we've seen of Grandma's House, it's been plumetting since the first episode and yesterday it was killed off by the tough competition.”
I don't know about that, series like Hyperdrive and Supernova have been recommissioned with similar or possibly lower ratings, and Grandma's House has had better reviews than those. In addition, the last BBC2 series that faced The Inbetweeners and got lower ratings was The Graham Norton Show, and we know what's happened to that.
Anyway, Grandma's House wasn't a very mainstream series so they probably weren't expecting huge audience. And I for one have very much enjoyed it.
Originally Posted by dave01:
“Thats an incredible rise between series for The Inbetweeners:
500k for the 1st series.
1.2m for the 2nd series
2.6m for the 3rd series.
Those are only rough numbers based from memory but I think that is beyond what Gavin and Stacey achieved on BBC3. E4 should be very proud of having such a show, it outrated everything shown on Channel 4 yesterday by a long way.”
“Thats an incredible rise between series for The Inbetweeners:
500k for the 1st series.
1.2m for the 2nd series
2.6m for the 3rd series.
Those are only rough numbers based from memory but I think that is beyond what Gavin and Stacey achieved on BBC3. E4 should be very proud of having such a show, it outrated everything shown on Channel 4 yesterday by a long way.”
Very good figures - and proof E4's approach of a few - but high quality - British commissions really does pay off more than BBC3's "if you through enough mud, something will stick!" approach.
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“Comedy has always been Channel 4's strong point and that evident with shows like Inbetweeners, Peep Show and The IT Crowd. I do wonder how it would fared had it transferred to Channel 4, 3-4m?
Do wish they would reestablish the Friday Night comedy block with a mix of US and British comedy.”
“Comedy has always been Channel 4's strong point and that evident with shows like Inbetweeners, Peep Show and The IT Crowd. I do wonder how it would fared had it transferred to Channel 4, 3-4m?
Do wish they would reestablish the Friday Night comedy block with a mix of US and British comedy.”
I really don't think it would have done any better on C4 - perhaps even worse actually. It's a completely different situation to the BBC where people will watch shows on BBC1 they wouldn't dream of venturing to BBC3 (or even BBC2) to check out - C4's audience is much more willing to venture into the digital depths, whilst E4 I think more than any other channel has a very strong identity of it's own - and keeping hold of their commissions is paying off.
See School of Comedy got 0.57m off the back of it, which though only holding on to 25% or so of the audience, I think is better than the first series.
Hope Misfits gets a similar bounce to The Inbetweeners when it returns too - it deserves far more than the 400-500,000 it got for the first series.
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“I don't know about that, series like Hyperdrive and Supernova have been recommissioned with similar or possibly lower ratings, and Grandma's House has had better reviews than those. In addition, the last BBC2 series that faced The Inbetweeners and got lower ratings was The Graham Norton Show, and we know what's happened to that.
Anyway, Grandma's House wasn't a very mainstream series so they probably weren't expecting huge audience. And I for one have very much enjoyed it.”
“I don't know about that, series like Hyperdrive and Supernova have been recommissioned with similar or possibly lower ratings, and Grandma's House has had better reviews than those. In addition, the last BBC2 series that faced The Inbetweeners and got lower ratings was The Graham Norton Show, and we know what's happened to that.
Anyway, Grandma's House wasn't a very mainstream series so they probably weren't expecting huge audience. And I for one have very much enjoyed it.”
Did either of those series lose 50% of its audience in 6 weeks? That's a massive drop. Even ignoring yesterday's rating, it only had 990k last week which is poor imo and nearly 40% down from how the first episode rated. I think a show which has lost viewers every single week (with it being a large part of the audience deserting it) would be lucky to get another series. [AIs haven't been great either - all under 80]
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“I really don't think it would have done any better on C4 - perhaps even worse actually. It's a completely different situation to the BBC where people will watch shows on BBC1 they wouldn't dream of venturing to BBC3 (or even BBC2) to check out - C4's audience is much more willing to venture into the digital depths, whilst E4 I think more than any other channel has a very strong identity of it's own.”
“I really don't think it would have done any better on C4 - perhaps even worse actually. It's a completely different situation to the BBC where people will watch shows on BBC1 they wouldn't dream of venturing to BBC3 (or even BBC2) to check out - C4's audience is much more willing to venture into the digital depths, whilst E4 I think more than any other channel has a very strong identity of it's own.”
Never in a million years would The Inbetweeners rate worse on C4 than E4 if it were transferred. I agree that E4 has a strong identity but the fact is that there are many people who watch C4 who never tune into E4... looking at the latest weekly BARB ratings, C4 reached 35m people compared to E4's 12.5m, and often the gap is even bigger than that.
If you notice, the 16-34 skew for The Inbetweeners was 64% of its total audience. That never happens for terrestrial programmes - the absolute maximum I've seen is 50%, if that. Assuming that the 1.7m 16-34s would watch on C4 if it were transferred to there (no reason why they wouldn't), the show being on C4 would reduce its skew to something between 40-50% (let's be generous and say 50%), which in turn would boost its overall number to at least 3.2m+ due to casual older viewers tuning in who don't usually watch E4.
Okay that's nowhere near the same as transferring a BBC3 show to BBC1. But I definitely disagree with the idea that a show would rate better airing on E4 than C4. It might be a 'better fit' for E4 but C4 still has a decent casual audience which would boost its numbers.
I don't imagine that C4 will bother moving The Inbetweeners. Its target audience is 16-34 year olds and it's not going to do any better with them on the main channel than it will on E4 and it will harm E4. They can repeat it on C4 at a later date.
The Inbetweeners should STAY on E4, C4's main channel deserve to suffer for having stupid programmes. I hope Inbetweeners continues doing well, C4 might ruin it by putting it to a 1am slot knowing how stupid they are.
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Never in a million years would The Inbetweeners rate worse on C4 than E4 if it were transferred. I agree that E4 has a strong identity but the fact is that there are many people who watch C4 who never tune into E4... looking at the latest weekly BARB ratings, C4 reached 35m people compared to E4's 12.5m, and often the gap is even bigger than that.
If you notice, the 16-34 skew for The Inbetweeners was 64% of its total audience. That never happens for terrestrial programmes - the absolute maximum I've seen is 50%, if that. Assuming that the 1.7m 16-34s would watch on C4 if it were transferred to there (no reason why they wouldn't), the show being on C4 would reduce its skew to something between 40-50% (let's be generous and say 50%), which in turn would boost its overall number to at least 3.2m+ due to casual older viewers tuning in who don't usually watch E4.
Okay that's nowhere near the same as transferring a BBC3 show to BBC1. But I definitely disagree with the idea that a show would rate better airing on E4 than C4. It might be a 'better fit' for E4 but C4 still has a decent casual audience which would boost its numbers.”
“Never in a million years would The Inbetweeners rate worse on C4 than E4 if it were transferred. I agree that E4 has a strong identity but the fact is that there are many people who watch C4 who never tune into E4... looking at the latest weekly BARB ratings, C4 reached 35m people compared to E4's 12.5m, and often the gap is even bigger than that.
If you notice, the 16-34 skew for The Inbetweeners was 64% of its total audience. That never happens for terrestrial programmes - the absolute maximum I've seen is 50%, if that. Assuming that the 1.7m 16-34s would watch on C4 if it were transferred to there (no reason why they wouldn't), the show being on C4 would reduce its skew to something between 40-50% (let's be generous and say 50%), which in turn would boost its overall number to at least 3.2m+ due to casual older viewers tuning in who don't usually watch E4.
Okay that's nowhere near the same as transferring a BBC3 show to BBC1. But I definitely disagree with the idea that a show would rate better airing on E4 than C4. It might be a 'better fit' for E4 but C4 still has a decent casual audience which would boost its numbers.”
Of course in theory you are correct - but I don't think the boost would be enough to justify it - and indeed revenue wise as ridiculous as it might sound it might be more attractive to advertisers with a 64% 16-34 audience of 2m or so on E4 than it would be with a 40% share of 3m or so on C4. (But all in theory of course!)
And of course E4 have a couple more ad slots within the central break too - indeed amazed (and pleased) they've not taken advantage of the rules which would allow another ad break within a 30-minute show on digital (as Fiver have for Home and Away/Neighbours).
My first thought is to wait and see what the rest of the series does. If the rest is < 2m then stay on E4, if it begins to threaten > 3m, then maybe C4 is needed...
Originally Posted by C14E:
“I don't imagine that C4 will bother moving The Inbetweeners. Its target audience is 16-34 year olds and it's not going to do any better with them on the main channel than it will on E4 and it will harm E4. They can repeat it on C4 at a later date.”
“I don't imagine that C4 will bother moving The Inbetweeners. Its target audience is 16-34 year olds and it's not going to do any better with them on the main channel than it will on E4 and it will harm E4. They can repeat it on C4 at a later date.”
I would normally agree but Channel 4 have got very few returning programmes which are capable of 2.5m+ (you could perhaps name them all on just one hand), and with BB's axing there are going to be some massive gaps in the schedule. Once big hitters for them such as Gordon Ramsay, Jamie Oliver, Location Location, Desperate Housewsives, are struggling to bring in good audiences to the channel. They've concentrated so much on the digital channels (particularly E4) and giving them the best shows, that the main channel is a shadow of its former self.
By all means, they should keep Skins, Glee and Misfits on E4. But I think The Inbetweeners has shown massive potential and is the kind of show the main channel needs to have during their 'creative renewal'. I don't think losing it will be a massive harm to E4 because it's only 3 hours of the year. I think at the moment C4 needs more help than E4 does! Also The Inbetweeners would provide a platform/lead-in for new sitcoms to possibly rate well on C4.
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“Of course in theory you are correct - but I don't think the boost would be enough to justify it - and indeed revenue wise as ridiculous as it might sound it might be more attractive to advertisers with a 64% 16-34 audience of 2m or so on E4 than it would be with a 40% share of 3m or so on C4. (But all in theory of course!)”
“Of course in theory you are correct - but I don't think the boost would be enough to justify it - and indeed revenue wise as ridiculous as it might sound it might be more attractive to advertisers with a 64% 16-34 audience of 2m or so on E4 than it would be with a 40% share of 3m or so on C4. (But all in theory of course!)”
The latter is better for the advertisers because it means in addition to reaching the 16-34 audience, their ads are viewed by a larger audience. Hence why ITV are able to charge advertisers about £42 per 1000 16-34s while C4's is more like £30 and E4's is even lower.
Didn't know about the ad-break rule though.
The Inbetweeners is on C4 Friday anyway, so what's the big deal? Move it and E4 is suddenly a lot weaker.
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“To be fair Porterhouse Blue was was on Channel 4 which to a certain extent was going to get a reduced figure. However when you consider A Sharp intake of Breath(a perhaps forgotten chart topper), The Darling Buds of May, A Bit of a Do, A Touch of Frost, Open All Hours and ofcourse Only Fools and Horses its a pretty spectacular ratings cv over a long period.
I agree that things are different today and the figure for Alberts Memorial is a sharp reminder of this-its quite poor imo.”
“To be fair Porterhouse Blue was was on Channel 4 which to a certain extent was going to get a reduced figure. However when you consider A Sharp intake of Breath(a perhaps forgotten chart topper), The Darling Buds of May, A Bit of a Do, A Touch of Frost, Open All Hours and ofcourse Only Fools and Horses its a pretty spectacular ratings cv over a long period.
I agree that things are different today and the figure for Alberts Memorial is a sharp reminder of this-its quite poor imo.”
Agree entirely, that's a very poor rating for a David Jason drama premiere. Plenty of publicity too, and the wartime theme would normally put bums on seats.
A rare flop. In fact, I can't think of any other flops he has ever been involved in.
BTW, I seem to recall Porterhouse Blue got high ratings actually for Ch4 - 6-7m?
Originally Posted by ZoeMcCallister:
“Slight o/t but just realised that Corrie's live episode/50th anniversary celebrations will air on the same week as the XF final. That will be a huge week for ITV and I'm sure it'll be promoted as such. Just a shame that the 50th anniversary episode airs on the Thursday and the live episode on the Friday-traditionally the weakest performing days for Corrie.”
“Slight o/t but just realised that Corrie's live episode/50th anniversary celebrations will air on the same week as the XF final. That will be a huge week for ITV and I'm sure it'll be promoted as such. Just a shame that the 50th anniversary episode airs on the Thursday and the live episode on the Friday-traditionally the weakest performing days for Corrie.”
That'll finish off ITV's year nicely before they close down until 5th January.
Train crash TV and car crash TV in the same week. Classy.
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“Bruce and Ronnie! Hence the name. That was indeed in 1988, they'd presented the Royal Variety Performance and been quite successful so they were given this show, but during rehearsals the producer Marcus Mortimer came in weeping and said "I don't know how to tell you this but we're on Boxing Day at eleven o'clock".”
“Bruce and Ronnie! Hence the name. That was indeed in 1988, they'd presented the Royal Variety Performance and been quite successful so they were given this show, but during rehearsals the producer Marcus Mortimer came in weeping and said "I don't know how to tell you this but we're on Boxing Day at eleven o'clock".”
Typically aggressive BBC, putting a Brucie entertainment show out during evening viewing rather than at 5pm in the afternoon...
Originally Posted by C14E:
“Jay Hunt will leave BBC1 in January and will become Chief Creative Officer of Channel 4. Following Kevin Lygo's departure earlier this year (he now runs ITV Studios), the job had been covered by Julian Bellamy who will leave Channel 4 after a "handover" period.
Danny Cohen is expected to be promoted from Controller of BBC3 to run BBC1. He was previously Head of Factual Entertainment and E4 at Channel 4.”
“Jay Hunt will leave BBC1 in January and will become Chief Creative Officer of Channel 4. Following Kevin Lygo's departure earlier this year (he now runs ITV Studios), the job had been covered by Julian Bellamy who will leave Channel 4 after a "handover" period.
Danny Cohen is expected to be promoted from Controller of BBC3 to run BBC1. He was previously Head of Factual Entertainment and E4 at Channel 4.”
Good news re Jay Hunt. Not the best Controller BBC1 has ever had, frankly.
The Daily Mail will have a field day with the news of Danny Cohen's promotion from BBC3 to BBC1. I see they did a full page spread yesterday on the relaunched Strictly getting an even heavier trouncing by TXF than last year, comparing the preview launch show with last year's series opener...
Maybe GeorgeS is freelancing for them?
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010...elp-for-heroes
Losing one One Show host is carelessnes, losing two would be something else
”
“http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010...elp-for-heroes
Losing one One Show host is carelessnes, losing two would be something else
”
It would be three would it not? At least...
The last two hosts are certainly looking "lost" at the moment. I agree with you there.
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“Yes, it is a bit strange, when he moved over to the Beeb in 1990 I seem to remember him doing Takeover Bid for the Beeb at the start of the year,”
“Yes, it is a bit strange, when he moved over to the Beeb in 1990 I seem to remember him doing Takeover Bid for the Beeb at the start of the year,”
Ah, Takeover Bid. Only a vague memory, but wasn't this BBC1's answer to 3-2-1 in terms of confusing, cryptic gameshows where no-one (not least the host) had the faintest idea what the hell was going on?
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Agree entirely, that's a very poor rating for a David Jason drama premiere. Plenty of publicity too, and the wartime theme would normally put bums on seats.
A rare flop. In fact, I can't think of any other flops he has ever been involved in.
BTW, I seem to recall Porterhouse Blue got high ratings actually for Ch4 - 6-7m?
That'll finish off ITV's year nicely before they close down until 5th January.
Train crash TV and car crash TV in the same week. Classy.
Typically aggressive BBC, putting a Brucie entertainment show out during evening viewing rather than at 5pm in the afternoon...
Good news re Jay Hunt. Not the best Controller BBC1 has ever had, frankly.
The Daily Mail will have a field day with the news of Danny Cohen's promotion from BBC3 to BBC1. I see they did a full page spread yesterday on the relaunched Strictly getting an even heavier trouncing by TXF than last year, comparing the preview launch show with last year's series opener...
Maybe GeorgeS is freelancing for them?
It would be three would it not? At least...
The last two hosts are certainly looking "lost" at the moment. I agree with you there.
Ah, Takeover Bid. Only a vague memory, but wasn't this BBC1's answer to 3-2-1 in terms of confusing, cryptic gameshows where no-one (not least the host) had the faintest idea what the hell was going on?”
“Agree entirely, that's a very poor rating for a David Jason drama premiere. Plenty of publicity too, and the wartime theme would normally put bums on seats.
A rare flop. In fact, I can't think of any other flops he has ever been involved in.
BTW, I seem to recall Porterhouse Blue got high ratings actually for Ch4 - 6-7m?
That'll finish off ITV's year nicely before they close down until 5th January.
Train crash TV and car crash TV in the same week. Classy.
Typically aggressive BBC, putting a Brucie entertainment show out during evening viewing rather than at 5pm in the afternoon...
Good news re Jay Hunt. Not the best Controller BBC1 has ever had, frankly.
The Daily Mail will have a field day with the news of Danny Cohen's promotion from BBC3 to BBC1. I see they did a full page spread yesterday on the relaunched Strictly getting an even heavier trouncing by TXF than last year, comparing the preview launch show with last year's series opener...
Maybe GeorgeS is freelancing for them?
It would be three would it not? At least...
The last two hosts are certainly looking "lost" at the moment. I agree with you there.
Ah, Takeover Bid. Only a vague memory, but wasn't this BBC1's answer to 3-2-1 in terms of confusing, cryptic gameshows where no-one (not least the host) had the faintest idea what the hell was going on?
”
I do seem to remember Portehouse Blue getting that kind of figure-very good for C4 but obviously not in the same league as his other stuff. As an aside David also voiced "Wind in the Willows" and "Dangermouse" (with Terry Scott as Penfold iirc) which were very successful in their sphere.
Takeover Bid was the result of the unwritten rule that entertainment stars must do a half hour game show in addition to any other starring roles they had. Obviously Bruce had the Generation Game but the Beeb (I would imagine) wanted a Play Your Cards Right of their own (Bob Monkhouse had been given Bobs full House-I think the first BBC quiz ever to offer a commercial tv style prize)), so Take Over Bid emerged. Very poor imo-I think the main prize was a holiday (the Beeb never went for cash), but the spot prizes were laughably poor -but not considered a joke like they were in Blankety Blank. I think it lasted for two series-arguably two more than it should-although the ratings werent all that bad iirc.
Originally Posted by sn_22:
“
Danny Cohen would be an interesting choice. No doubt he'd be slaughtered in the press by listing some of his more questionable BBC Three shows, but he does have an strong track record. Indeed, it is he who commissioned the aforementioned Inbetweeners in the first place...
Janice Hadlow from BBC Two would be a safer choice - and they could happily promote Klein from BBC Four to take her remit - but I wonder whether it's not better to give the main channel the kick-up-the-backside that Cohen might provide.”
“
Danny Cohen would be an interesting choice. No doubt he'd be slaughtered in the press by listing some of his more questionable BBC Three shows, but he does have an strong track record. Indeed, it is he who commissioned the aforementioned Inbetweeners in the first place...
Janice Hadlow from BBC Two would be a safer choice - and they could happily promote Klein from BBC Four to take her remit - but I wonder whether it's not better to give the main channel the kick-up-the-backside that Cohen might provide.”
Danny Cohen has really turned BBC Three around and It would be interesting how he would do at BBC One. Janice Hadlow would be a good controller but I imagine she's quite happy at BBC Two.
Lots of changes for the big five with a new controller at BBC One, a new controller and a newish controller at Five.
Originally Posted by rzt:
“I would normally agree but Channel 4 have got very few returning programmes which are capable of 2.5m+ (you could perhaps name them all on just one hand), and with BB's axing there are going to be some massive gaps in the schedule. Once big hitters for them such as Gordon Ramsay, Jamie Oliver, Location Location, Desperate Housewsives, are struggling to bring in good audiences to the channel. They've concentrated so much on the digital channels (particularly E4) and giving them the best shows, that the main channel is a shadow of its former self.”
“I would normally agree but Channel 4 have got very few returning programmes which are capable of 2.5m+ (you could perhaps name them all on just one hand), and with BB's axing there are going to be some massive gaps in the schedule. Once big hitters for them such as Gordon Ramsay, Jamie Oliver, Location Location, Desperate Housewsives, are struggling to bring in good audiences to the channel. They've concentrated so much on the digital channels (particularly E4) and giving them the best shows, that the main channel is a shadow of its former self.”
This is the last series though, so doesn't really matter now. And heck, it's jumped a million staying on E4 - it could have done the same if it had moved to C4, and we'd have put it down to the promotion - but in reality it would have jumped a million anyway.
C4 though definately need to sort out their own comedy line up - Fridays would have been the first thing on my list to sort out once Big Brother is out of the way, and Embarrassing Bodies does not belong in the 9pm slot. Even the new Seven Days show - although not comedy - would be a better sort of show to have in that slot to keep the night more entertainment focused.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“The Inbetweeners is on C4 Friday anyway, so what's the big deal? Move it and E4 is suddenly a lot weaker.”
“The Inbetweeners is on C4 Friday anyway, so what's the big deal? Move it and E4 is suddenly a lot weaker.”
Be interesting to see the figures for the E4 repeat on Thursday and C4 on Friday. It's got to be heading for around 4m over the week I'd imagine - and probably perform very well for 4oD too. The prequel on E4.com had well over 300,000 views when I watched it at the weekend.
^ Yeah, I haven't watched it yet so will catch it on either Thursday or Friday. Too much on at the moment!
Not sure what to make of This is England '86 yet. Very watchable and well done though. Hopefully it will stay above the 2.5m mark.
Not sure what to make of This is England '86 yet. Very watchable and well done though. Hopefully it will stay above the 2.5m mark.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Channel Five haven't been in a position to axe it until recently. Although they could now and keep Five News at 7, in which case we're back to where we were before Studio Five began.”
“Channel Five haven't been in a position to axe it until recently. Although they could now and keep Five News at 7, in which case we're back to where we were before Studio Five began.”
If LFSF went wouldn't some extra news have to be added elsewhere. The lunchtime and weekend news was cut down when LFSF started werent they?
Bouquet of Barbed Wire held up ok, and Dragon's Den and Who Do You Think You Are? performed well. Daybreak is not exactly firing on all cylinders, and I'm not sure how long it'll be until ITV try adding bits to the programme to increase viewing figures.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“^ Yeah, I haven't watched it yet so will catch it on either Thursday or Friday. Too much on at the moment!
Not sure what to make of This is England '86 yet. Very watchable and well done though. Hopefully it will stay above the 2.5m mark.”
“^ Yeah, I haven't watched it yet so will catch it on either Thursday or Friday. Too much on at the moment!
Not sure what to make of This is England '86 yet. Very watchable and well done though. Hopefully it will stay above the 2.5m mark.”
Hope it does - it's so refreshing to have a drama where the storyline isn't shoved down your face and just allowed to play out fairly naturally. On the surface not a lot actually happened in tonight's episodes, but in reality there were a good 4 or 5 storylines either running or being set up throughout the episode.
I know they need to get the balance right between telling the story and not milking it, but this could easily have run for 8 weeks with potential to continue as a recurring series. I expect though Shane Meadows couldn't and wouldn't commit to that - and though he's talked of a follow up, I think it'll just be one more mini-series.
Originally Posted by excel99:
“If LFSF went wouldn't some extra news have to be added elsewhere. The lunchtime and weekend news was cut down when LFSF started werent they?”
“If LFSF went wouldn't some extra news have to be added elsewhere. The lunchtime and weekend news was cut down when LFSF started werent they?”
I think if Five were able to cut down their news commitments with Ofcom, they would. A factual show between 6.30-7.30 would do better business and at half the cost.
Originally Posted by excel99:
“If LFSF went wouldn't some extra news have to be added elsewhere. The lunchtime and weekend news was cut down when LFSF started werent they?”
“If LFSF went wouldn't some extra news have to be added elsewhere. The lunchtime and weekend news was cut down when LFSF started werent they?”
Yeah, from 10 minutes to 5 minutes according to the schedules I'm looking at. Looks like they'd have to find another 30 minutes or so elsewhere if they did ever axe Studio Five. Maybe it could become a weekly programme.
Story of the night:
* Packed to the Rafters tops the night for 9th consecutive week.
* Beat the Star takes a tumble - Seven will pull it after two episodes.
* Nine's Top Gear continues to be a dependable performer even on reruns.
Seven
18:00 Seven News 1.39m
18:30 Today Tonight 1.33m
19:00 Home and Away 0.98m
19:30 Beat the Star 0.86m
*axed from timeslot as of next week, replaced by Four Weddings.
*Seven yet to confirm if/when remaining Beat the Star episodes will air.
*Seven were hoping Beat the Star would replicate success of predecessor Minute to Win it.
20:30 Packed to the Rafters 1.87m
Nine
18:00 Nine News 1.25m
18:30 A Current Affair 1.30m
19:00 Two and a Half Men (R) 1.12m
19:30 Top Gear (R) 1.34m
21:00 New: The Real Hustle 0.74m
Ten
18:00 The Simpsons (R) 0.66m
18:30 Neighbours 0.68m
19:00 The 7pm Project 0.92m
19:30 Talkin' 'Bout Your Generation 1.37m
20:30 NCIS (R) 0.97m
Corporation Shares
Seven/7TWO - 29.8%
Nine/GO! - 27.2%
Ten/ONE - 22.2%
ABC1/2/3/24 - 15.6%
* Packed to the Rafters tops the night for 9th consecutive week.
* Beat the Star takes a tumble - Seven will pull it after two episodes.
* Nine's Top Gear continues to be a dependable performer even on reruns.
Seven
18:00 Seven News 1.39m
18:30 Today Tonight 1.33m
19:00 Home and Away 0.98m
19:30 Beat the Star 0.86m
*axed from timeslot as of next week, replaced by Four Weddings.
*Seven yet to confirm if/when remaining Beat the Star episodes will air.
*Seven were hoping Beat the Star would replicate success of predecessor Minute to Win it.
20:30 Packed to the Rafters 1.87m
Nine
18:00 Nine News 1.25m
18:30 A Current Affair 1.30m
19:00 Two and a Half Men (R) 1.12m
19:30 Top Gear (R) 1.34m
21:00 New: The Real Hustle 0.74m
Ten
18:00 The Simpsons (R) 0.66m
18:30 Neighbours 0.68m
19:00 The 7pm Project 0.92m
19:30 Talkin' 'Bout Your Generation 1.37m
20:30 NCIS (R) 0.97m
Corporation Shares
Seven/7TWO - 29.8%
Nine/GO! - 27.2%
Ten/ONE - 22.2%
ABC1/2/3/24 - 15.6%
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“* Beat the Star takes a tumble - Seven will pull it after two episodes.
19:30 Beat the Star 0.86m
*axed from timeslot as of next week, replaced by Four Weddings.
*Seven yet to confirm if/when remaining Beat the Star episodes will air.
*Seven were hoping Beat the Star would replicate success of predecessor Minute to Win it.”
“* Beat the Star takes a tumble - Seven will pull it after two episodes.
19:30 Beat the Star 0.86m
*axed from timeslot as of next week, replaced by Four Weddings.
*Seven yet to confirm if/when remaining Beat the Star episodes will air.
*Seven were hoping Beat the Star would replicate success of predecessor Minute to Win it.”
Seems like its isn't the success ITV Studio's were hoping for. (providing its the same format as over here?)
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“The Inbetweeners is on C4 Friday anyway, so what's the big deal? Move it and E4 is suddenly a lot weaker.”
“The Inbetweeners is on C4 Friday anyway, so what's the big deal? Move it and E4 is suddenly a lot weaker.”
When you've got channels in dire states such as Channel 4 (and ITV1 for that matter) the digital channels should be used to grow new shows before they make the jump to their terrestrial counterpart. These digital channels should compliment the main terrestrial channel, not overshadow them.
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Seems like its isn't the success ITV Studio's were hoping for. (providing its the same format as over here?)”
“Seems like its isn't the success ITV Studio's were hoping for. (providing its the same format as over here?)”
I thought Beat The Star was a German format
105 of 121
