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... I think that X Factor would lose something in the region of 15-25% of its viewers if Cowell left, whilst DOI would lose 10-15% of its audience by moving to the Spring I think. So it boils down to X Factor losing 15-25% of its audience or DOI losing 10-15%. I think it's clear what ITV would prefer.
- Take Me Out and All Star Mr & Mrs would be down due to the move from January to late-Spring. Last June when it wasn't leading into BGT, Mr & Mrs officially averaged 4.2m. In January this year, it averaged 5.2m. (Paddy McG has confirmed a Jan return for TMO anyway) - Piers Morgan's Life Stories would probably rate worse leading out of Take Me Out than what is has been rating in the past. - Autumn series of The Cube & Family Fortunes would get lower ratings due to not being paired up with TXF. - Having IAC in October means that 6-10 part drama series such as Law & Order UK/Doc Martin can't launch in September (traditional time for launching Autumn dramas), unless they're interupted mid-run. I can see advantages with your schedule such as having two new shows launching off the back of BGT, Millionaire rating better in that new slot, Best of TV Burps to boost summer schedules etc. I think overall though it's more than just a case of DOI's ratings going down and everything needs to be taken into consideration. Do they want to put their eggs in mostly one basket (i.e. TXF) or make sure they have a steady schedule which has generally worked in the past but risk losing some TXF viewers due to a possible Cowell departure? Edit: I agree with your reply to Desert Rat regarding DOI, in that it wouldn't fall as low as 5m in the Spring. Quote:
I like Rzt's idea. Especially when XF US doesn't have a long term future, it seems a bit dramatic to change everything.
If they do it properly, they can get some hype around the new guy and have a smooth transition as well. If viewers have watched up to judges houses, I can't see a huge % turning off just because Cowell won't be in the next episode so long as they do it right. And if they get it right, it would actually give the show a whole new energy as well. Just make sure they pay Cheryl enough to keep her around because without Cowell, the press she creates will be even more important than it is now. PS: Are we getting any ratings today? I was looking forward to Robbie's dramatic post about X Factor's 2 million year-on-year decline! BARB has released yesterday's ratings so hopefully we'll get them later on in the afternoon. I think PJ's on holiday so unlikely that we'll get a DS update. Quote:
As for Bouquet of Barbed Wire, it's got big names in it and ITV have even invested in cinema advertising so they must have high hopes for it. 5-6m seems most likely.
! That didn't even launch with a decent audience. But yeah, I think this should get 5-6m for its first week at least.
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Bouquet of Barbed Wire does look good although I bet they'll be crys of 'why not run the original?' or 'ruining a classic.'
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X Factor is in no danger, people will start to worry if the average drops sub 7.5m (weird seeing as any show would kill to get 7m constantly).
But it just takes one series of any show from ratings highs to ratings lows... X factor is bound to become a tired format in 3 years or so. It will be interesting to see when a ratings decline will happen. |
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I understand what you mean but it's not just DOI which would be affected. There's other programmes too. Using your schedule:
- Take Me Out and All Star Mr & Mrs would be down due to the move from January to late-Spring. Last June when it wasn't leading into BGT, Mr & Mrs officially averaged 4.2m. In January this year, it averaged 5.2m. (Paddy McG has confirmed a Jan return for TMO anyway) - Piers Morgan's Life Stories would probably rate worse leading out of Take Me Out than what is has been rating in the past. - Autumn series of The Cube & Family Fortunes would get lower ratings due to not being paired up with TXF. - Having IAC in October means that 6-10 part drama series such as Law & Order UK/Doc Martin can't launch in September (traditional time for launching Autumn dramas), unless they're interupted mid-run. I can see advantages with your schedule such as having two new shows launching off the back of BGT, Millionaire rating better in that new slot, Best of TV Burps to boost summer schedules etc. I think overall though it's more than just a case of DOI's ratings going down and everything needs to be taken into consideration. Do they want to put their eggs in mostly one basket (i.e. TXF) or make sure they have a steady schedule which has generally worked in the past but risk losing some TXF viewers due to a possible Cowell departure? Edit: I agree with your reply to Desert Rat regarding DOI, in that it wouldn't fall as low as 5m in the Spring. Quote:
Britannia High had cinema advertising.. we know what happened to that True, although even the adverts for BH stank of shit, at least the Bouquet trailers look good! It should do well for the first week at least.
! That didn't even launch with a decent audience. But yeah, I think this should get 5-6m for its first week at least.
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Hmmm, the football did ok I guess and probably rated better between 7.30 and 10 than ITV's usual schedule would. As they eluded to on the programme yesterday, the Friday matches will limit people who live a distance from Wembley to get there, so I doubt the FA are happy with the switch.
As for people not being able to get there, it's not as if it's a regular thing, is it? They don't have to go. Surely most schools were still off on Friday anyway? It's also to do with the luck of the draw for the fixtures, I remember all Scotland's home qualifiers for Euro 2008, purely by chance, ended up being played on a Saturday, so even had they not been rescheduled, all the home qualifiers could have ended up in midweek. That said, I don't know why, even if the Wednesday matches move to Tuesday, they can't just keep the Saturday matches where they are, as plenty of teams play Saturdays and Tuesdays. |
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Bouquet of Barbed Wire does look good although I bet they'll be crys of 'why not run the original?' or 'ruining a classic.'
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Although the BBC appeared to have been listing it as a 9 part series right up to episode 7 last week.
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Can't imagine this Funniest Year thing doing very well. There doesn't appear to be a thread for it on here and I think it's a big ask from C4 for people to sit through two hours of Rufus Hound.
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BB related, this may cause an outrage...
According to BB5 fellow HM friend of Nadia, she is feeling suicidal http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s....php?t=1345189 Will Endemol/C4 be in trouble? Nadia ultimately agreed to return in exchange for cold hard cash and is now looking to blame anyone but herself for her behaviour - which ironically has now been far worse since she got the boot than it was when in the house. Quote:
I see your point rzt but I disagree. I don't think BGT would lose too many viewers by swapping from April-May to July-August as in the last few years the weather has been better in the Spring than the Summer so it wouldn't be dented by that.
Dancing on Ice could prepare for being bumped later into the year by having some sort of pre-series next year. Always thought it would be a good idea to have a competition for a regular member of the public to earn a place in the final line up - basically a couple of audition shows then a live show with the top six or so before the series itself launches. Talking of BGT, Amanda Holden has signed up for Shrek the Musical which begins in May next year, so is that her jumping before she's pushed? Also Paul O'Grady talking in an interview with the News of the World today about replacing Piers Morgan. |
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X Factor is in no danger, people will start to worry if the average drops sub 7.5m (weird seeing as any show would kill to get 7m constantly).
But it just takes one series of any show from ratings highs to ratings lows... X factor is bound to become a tired format in 3 years or so. It will be interesting to see when a ratings decline will happen. Also if BBC One schedules something which is a success against The X Factor, this could kill it. Either way the X Factor is heading into its twilight years and will be gone by 2011 or 2012. |
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But it just takes one series of any show from ratings highs to ratings lows... X factor is bound to become a tired format in 3 years or so. It will be interesting to see when a ratings decline will happen.
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No actual ratings yet?
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Mind you, before the News of the World article, I thought the plan was to air The X Factor from November next year?
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The Sun claims November 2011 and News of the World claims 2012. Considering both "newspapers" are cobbled together in the same office, you'd think they'd be able to agree,
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Glad BB figures are disappointing after Friday's horrific show, hope Nadia sues Endemol, and it ends the entire thing.
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Anyone have ratings for GMTV's farewell on Friday?
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Saturday 4th September Overnights
BBC One 18:20- Wallace & Gromit In The Curse Of The Were-Rabbit: 2.91m (16.8%) 19:40- The National Lottery's Big Night: 2.29m (10.2%) 20:45- Casualty: 5.22m (24.1%) BBC Two 21:00- BBC Proms: 526k (2.7%) ITV1 18:15- You've Been Framed: 3.26m (20.9%) 18:45- Odd One In: 4.23m (24%) 19:30- The X Factor: 10.9m (49.2%) inc. HD * peak: 11.7m (51%) 20:45- The Bourne Ultimatum: 4.54m (21.8%) inc. HD Channel 4 19:30- 102 Minutes That Changed America: 1.69m (8%), +1 315k (1.4%) 21:00- Ultimate Big Brother: 1.77m (8.1%), +1: 349k (1.9%) 22:00- Rufus Hound's My Funniest Year: 1m (6.8%) Five 19:25- NCIS: 939k (4.4%) 20:15- NCIS: 1.12m (4.9%) 21:10- CSI: 943k (4.4%) 22:10- CSI: 964k (4.6%) ITV2 20:45- Xtra Factor: 1.57m (7.2%) Primetime Shares ITV1: 29.4% (HD: 1.4%) BBC One: 18.2% Channel 4: 7.5% (+1: 1.4%) Five: 4.6% BBC Two: 3.6% --------------------- X Factor up nearly a million from last week, getting its 3rd highest ever audition show rating. Odd One In and Bourne did pretty well around it. Good rating for Casualty but apart from that, poor evening for BBC1. |
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21:00- Ultimate Big Brother: 1.77m (8.1%), +1: 349k (1.9%)
ITV2 20:45- Xtra Factor: 1.57m (7.2%) |
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The X Factor is very consistent on Saturdays, regardless of whether it has weak or strong opposition. It gets its 10 or 11m come what may.
There's no massive boost when there's weak opposition such as last night's dreadful lottery show and BBC Two's opera. Similarly, there's no massive decline if better opposition is being served up. It has a big audience, but more importantly, a loyal one. I don't think it's a show for pulling in floating viewers on an occasional basis, though. |
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How embarrassing for Channel 4 when the shows were head to head.
I'm suprised it didnt go below 1.7m or something after that terrible Friday night. |
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It got 2.1m(or is it 2.2m?) which was considered decent during BB11 (obviously last Saturday got 2.5m and that was the highest rated Saturday show in 2 years)... 2.1m is decent, well for a Saturday anyway.
I'm suprised it didnt go below 1.7m or something after that terrible Friday night. Excellent night for ITV1, especially The Bourne Ultimatum, putting that X Factor lead-in to good use. --- Dan. How will the final Big Brother, Peggy's EastEnders exit and the return of New Tricks rate? Submit your predictions now. >> |
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X Factor up nearly a million from last week, getting its 3rd highest ever audition show rating. Odd One In and Bourne did pretty well around it. Good rating for Casualty but apart from that, poor evening for BBC1. ![]() ![]() (Enough smilies? Or do I still have to spell out to some people that this remark is a joke? I am aware that last year's episode was boosted by a preceding England football match.)Very poor performance by Wallace & Gromitt. Think the BBC may have axed the wrong Peter Sallis programme. ![]() Looks like Odd One In may have done enough to secure a recommission (ratings-wise I mean. I'm not talking about programme content. )At first glance Casualty's figure seems poor to me for a feature-length episode, but it should get close to 6m in the officials which is healthy, and I don't think the BBC promoted it. (Correct me if I'm wrong.) And of course, if The Bill had been getting 5m overnights in its 9pm Thursday slot, it would still be very much alive and kicking. The Lottery Awards did as brilliantly as ever I see. Oh the pain of being a public service broadcaster, unable to judge your programmes purely on their ratings. |
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^^
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Very decent rebound for XF from the relative dip last week. However extremely poor opposition on BBC1-whatever audience might have been possible surely put off by the endless promos of John Barrowman shouting at them in the weeks build up. There is an audience for the type of stuff Barrowman does on Tonights the Night but he himself is a turn off for too many to make him a draw on a Saturday night. The reason they persist is that I would imagine the cupboard is bare.
Decent enough for Casualty over 90 mins but ITV was reasonable all night in a way they werent without the influence of XF a few weeks ago. |
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It lost over 15% of its audience week-on-week. Hardly a good result.
Excellent night for ITV1, especially The Bourne Ultimatum, putting that X Factor lead-in to good use. --- Dan. How will the final Big Brother, Peggy's EastEnders exit and the return of New Tricks rate? Submit your predictions now. >> ratings are bouncing all over the place. Eg. Jo's eviction was at a one of the lows of the series (2.4m), the next (quadruple eviction) it was at 3.1m, and then the episodes leading to the end were getting week highs. So i reckon we should see some highs this week leading to the final. |
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! That didn't even launch with a decent audience. But yeah, I think this should get 5-6m for its first week at least.




