Originally Posted by
Mela80:
“The problem is not Nadia's opinion - she probably shares the same one as a lot of highlights viewers. Highlights viewers stuck with a tv between themselves and the house.
The problem is her taking that opinion that exists between viewers and actually voicing it in the house with a vulnerable, insecure and totally in love girl with no JJ to defend himself and Josie with less knowledge than everyone - what Nadia said was like breaking Josie's heart. John and Coolio did not help, Ulrika was the only one who gave her any hope.
I'd have been a blubbering mess cos the problem is feelings are not a gameshow - everyone is getting confused. But JJJ are together and it's up to them now so I'm happy 
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The thing is with anyone having an opinion on someone else's relationship, outsiders are never going to have all the info and understand its workings. We could be wrong about it on this thread (I hope not), others could be wrong, we just don't know - even JJJ could be wrong about it themselves. And when do we decide we were wrong - were people who thought Helen and Paul should be together right or wrong? They were together for 5 or so years but then split, so who was right?
In my work I'm continually bemused by the couples I work with. I can think of couples I had every hope for making it, who then contact me out of the blue to say it's all over and others who I think are going to really struggle, who are together years after they came to counselling. And I don't think it's that I'm a bad counsellor (the feedback I get suggests otherwise in most cases), just that there are no guarantees in life. That's why when people asked on this thread what I thought about JJJ in the early days being for real or not, I was non commital, because what I rate as success or anyone else for that matter, others may not. If JJJ don't work out as a couple but remain great friends for life, is that a success?
And as I've said before on this thread, from my own marriage, there were a lot of people who thought we shouldn't be together and were quite vocal about it, but we had something very special, and are still together 30 years on, despite some big ups and downs en route (which I'm sure every couple get) - we knew what we'd had at the beg. was worth giving everything for.
And I believe JJJ have that special something - whether they will be willing to work through the hard times is down to them, I hope so.
There, you see, even this hardened neutral professional has an opinion, so I can't deny Nadia hers, but as you say Mela, she should have kept it to herself at such a delicate time in the proceedings. And this isn't said in any way judgementally of all Nadia's been through, but she probably isn't the best placed person in the world to judge how other people are in relationships - she must have had a bit of a mixed past in that area, no fault of her own, but may not be very experienced in reading how a male heterosexual relates to a woman (going back to the days when she was still in a male body but was attracted to men). But I could be wrong, about her and about JJJ.
I suppose he'll come straight back after it so not much sleep for him or his agent and whoever else is going with him.
But I'm glad you've seen the light. Pull up a chair and don't lurk so much - we'd love your opinions! 