They have been in the house for four weeks with no feedback from the public at all. They know that last years BB was a bore fest, they think they are the saviours of the show, more interesting, more likeable. True, they are a more watchable bunch and have given more entertainment up to now however, they have just found out that they are not the heros they thought they were going to be, each coming out to an adoring crowd. Every one of them talking about Vanessa last night, were to a degree, honestly concerned for her, but to a much larger degree, concerned for themselves.

What I find funny is that they can dismiss the people who boo as mindless braindead idiots, so what does that make the people that cheer?

Only in the parallel universe that you live in, I'm afraid.

We're ALL actors, playing a part ... that's why BB is so compelling ... the fakery & gerry-built cobbling together of "personhood" is exposed for the gimcrack, laughable affair that it is ... you know, people just don't understand how significant BB is ... it's a gameshow, they say ... it's a pantomime ... it's entertainment ... NO! it's a glimpse of the [imminent] future, in which 24/7 surveillance and constant spectacle will have us all living our tired, pathetic, fruitless, second-hand, learned-from-Las-Vegas lives explicitly as characters in some vast ludicrous global meta-soap ... it's just a question of time ... A & B list stars already live like this, they can't take a dump without it being headline news ... with the proliferation of the media, the process is due to spread exponentially ... then we'll all be BOO-ing EACHOTHER ... you'll walk out the door in the morning, having kicked the cat the night before ... BOO! ... you'll jump the queue at the checkout ... BOO! ... you'll cheat on your missus ... BOO! ... and it won't end there ...

It's when the crowd start STONING evicted HMs that you'll get the full picture ... me? can't wait ...

I guess booing is the risk you take when you put yourself in front of an audience and ask them to like you.

I thought the main spite against Vanessa started after she said "I am going to make her (Michelle) the most hated woman in the world" when not only had Michelle not nominated her, but it was OTT even when someone had nominated her. I mean they all have to nominate someone but for some reason Vanessa thought she should be above nomination. Sort of "bad loser" type of image.

The rest of Vanessa is bearable, but that attitude towards people evicting her is what sticks in my craw.

This totally sums up my take on Vanessa, she was in fact in my top three until her attitude to nomination.

As regards booing, it is not a 'normal' reaction in a 'normal' gameshow situation, however over the past few years it has become increasingly the norm in BB evictions. I would expect anyone that was at all interested in BB, certainly intrested enough to go through the whole audition and selection process, would be aware of the strong possibility of booing and would have, hopefully, recieved councilling before entering the house.

Like it or not it is now part of the show, after all I didn't see anyone go in there kicking and screaming. If they can't stand the heat and all that, they should have stayed at home and watch it on C4 instead

I must admit I did boo loudly for Vanessa from the privacy of my own living room

Yes, and lets not forget Victor was one who nominated Vanessa (rather unpleasantly) and then had the brass neck to find her nomination "unbelievable" when talking to the others. He was surprised by the booing. I don't think that was because he felt upset for her, he was probably kicking himself that he had helped eliminate such an unpopular person too early

doesn't sound far removed from what life in a village has been like for millennia to be honest

I never could see what Adele did to deserve such opprobrium, and it's the same with Vanessa.

Adele was boo'd for being two-faced, an element of that being the reason Vanessa was boo'd I'd guess. Thing is, they're all two-faced just that some of them don't show it. You'd have to be to get along in there.

I think the shock comes because they did not feel that Vanessa deserved that kind of reaction.

Not only were they upset for her, but I guess it's also got to worry them that if they felt Vanessa didn't deserve to get booed but did, what about the rest of them, what's going to happen when they leave.

Absolutely. Personally, I've never understood this "two-faced" stuff - EVERY HUMAN BEING I HAVE EVER KNOWN has been "two-faced" by the standards of some posters to boards like this! There are far better reasons for booing HMs, IMO. The only HMs I would have considered booing are Jonny BB3 and - had she been evicted in the norma manner - Emma, both for the same reason: they thought they were just so darned loveable when they were simply obnoxious and boorish.

Exactly ... only on a far grander, less personal, superheated scale ... so that, whereas in a village people were reined in by the fact that they actually knew one another and would have to live with the consequences of their actions, we, on the other hand, can provoke, codemn & punish with impunity ... all of the access to cruelty, none of the human responsibility that goes with it ... once again: future, boot, human face, for ever etc., etc ...

I accept that the booing is part of the pantomime, but surely it should be proportional to the size of the villain?

She beat up Diandra! For that alone she deserved all the booing

My favourite booing incident was the Tim eviction from BB3.
Did he deserve it?, in the context of the TV show, yes, i think he did.
The whole show is about public opinion and entertainment.
You are verbally battered before you go in about what may and may not happen to you upon your exit.
If it doesnt appeal, dont go in.

But, no matter how i felt about a HM, if i was there, i dont think id physically be able to boo and i would suggest that being there in person when it happens, it must seem alot nastier.
I mean your talking about a normal girl in the spotlight getting booed. Its bound to make you feel sick to the stomach if your there.

Everyone who's saying ' ...but they knew what to expect' are missing the point. It's not about Vanessa or the housemates reaction to the booing, but whether it's right to boo someone just because they did or said some things you didn't like/ agree with. It's not a pantomine- it's real life. She is a real person.

I think Adele was booed due to a number of reasons:

1. Her "tactics". She made no bones about playing the game strategically but made a fatal error in assuming that the public would applaud her for it. In general, the public prefer people who are "being themselves" e.g. Anna, Brian, Jon etc. When she was up for eviction, the public presumably realised that her head might never be on the block again and voted her out in droves.

2. Her role in the bullying of Sophie. This was the undoubted turning point in the wider perception of Adele. She openly encouraged Jade to bitch about Sophie, laughing at her "jokes" and generally contributed to making life in that house utterly unpleasant for her. It's fair to speculate that Adele was pulling Jade's strings to suit her own agenda i.e. lingering bitterness after Lee had decided that he preferred Sophie over her.

3. Her friendship/alliance with Jade. Jade was highly unpopular at the time and it seemed that in a damage limitation exercise, the Channel 4 broadcasts were focusing more and more on Adele and others to take the heat off Miss. Piggy. Adele's use of tactics and manipulation saw her booted out ahead of Jade, and she copped a lot of the antipathy for Jade when she left.

There are some conspiracy theorists who would argue that Endemol stage-managed Adele's eviction by editing the updates to show her in an especially bad light - and that they got away with it because she was black. Ludicrous piffle.

Adele sealed her own fate purely because of her own actions and nothing more. She was not evicted and booed because of her ethnic origin or Endemol's manipulations. She was evicted and booed because of her personality. Simple as that.

No thanks. I don't really want to read a specious diatribe about how Jonny, Kate, Lee and Sophie were the bad guys and bullies, and about how Adele, Jade and Alex were totally innocent of any wrongdoing.

That's right. This is a discussion forum and there are actually people that dare to disagree with you !!!

If you do not wish to read other views on BB3 then stop referring to it, time after time, post after post. You really need to let go of BB3. But, if you elect not to do so, please try to remember that your opinions do not constitute 'the truth' but just your own, very partisan position.

If someone doesn't wanna get boo'ed then maybe they should think about being a nice person whilst in the public eye.

It really winds me up in today's society where people get off with everything they do. Criminals get out early, for all sorts of crimes, from theft to even murder and rape. Lawyers find loopholes to get sentences cut, and even get cases thrown out of court that everyone knows the person was guilty of.

Kids on the most part are allowed to do what they please, teachers no longer have the ability to even restrain a child misbehaving, never mind threaten any type of worthwhile punishment.

People cheat, steal, lie, kill, rape, etc, with only a very small portion of them actually recieving any type of comuppence. Usually with the victims being the only ones to suffer and pay a price.

Maybe it's because i'm a Libran, that i hate injustice so much, but either way, it really winds me up to see someone being a complete bitch/**** and getting off with it. So i think it's only right that people are judged on what they do in the house. And they should be judged in the same way in real life too. If i do something wrong, i expect people to be disappointed, judgemental, angry, etc. If i go behind peoples backs, to talk about them, and bitch and moan about them not being as good as me, i expect people to pull me up on it, and judge me as a bitch/moan/up my own arse/jmoron, etc.

It's called consequences. If you do something in life, you should prepare for the consequences. Vanessa was a mouthy, boastful, spoilt, moaning nag. When she came out some of the crowd boo'ed her. She'll get a bit of bad press for a few days, maybe a week, then she'll get on with her life. And hopefully, she'll think more about what she does with herself. Maybe she'll learn from the experience and learn to be a nicer person. Getting boo'ed by people who have been watching you 24/7 should be a wake-up call. For anyone. (I can live in hope).

I'm all for a balanced appraisal of BB3, but not from someone who obviously demonises some HMs - Sophie, Kate - while sweeping the faults of others - Alex, Adele, Jade - under the carpet purely to suit himself.

It's not even a vaguely realistic standpoint - just childishly simplistic.

I have no position on BB3. I didn't like the show, and I didn't like *any* of the participants, however some were more objectionable than others.

As for partisan positions, take a look at how Kate was routinely slagged off in past RI:SE-related threads whereas Alex of course can do no wrong in the eyes of his "angels". :yawn:

There is a "be nice to everybody and I won't slag you off" brigade. What's so hard to understand? Be nice. That's it. Like Shell. Simple.

Otherwise we'll judge you. Us, the moral guardians of society. We'll get you back somehow. Boo you. Evict you. Just slag you off on a forum. How much santimonious crap is written by all these "lovely people". So busy worrying about everyone getting their just deserts. Basically these "nice" people are just full of hate and poison.

Everyone in the house is a tosser. Everyone in the house is a character. Everyone in the house is annoying. Everyone in the house is entertaining. Everyone in the house is brave. Everyone in the house will be daunted by the experience and falter. Everyone in the house is playing a game. Everyone on the house is being themselves.

Booing is interesting and there's no point in regretting it. It's part of the spectacle: the spectacle of a load of sad tossers down at Elstree and their acolytes on this forum cheering them on.

As Victor pointed out people who boo really do need help

Booing is likely in a show themed like this one with no obvious winners and an antagonistic house. All the HM were picked because they could annoy people - with the exception of Dan who seems too dull to offend. Its logical therefore that they might all get booed. Michelle is vulnerable as house slapper. Marco and Nadia are intensely annoying and many will share the view Marco is pretty vile. Stuart was picked for his arrogance and could get a Tim response unless he hides it. Shell suffers from having a posh accent, being articiulate and being pretty and sensible none of which would describe many of the crowd . One booed might well mean all booed.

The point about Vanessa was that she was one of the least deserving of being booed. She was perfectly acceptable.to the other HM. Her only faults were that she was prettier and more successful than most voters, that she called a chimp a chimp and she remained sensible when confronted by what the press called a freak show. Only the most avid supporters of the chimp faction or the type of viewer who hates every attractive female BB HM and invents silly reasons for doing so would have booed Vanessa.

As she did get booed you can see why the others are nervous. If the audience are chimps the sensible adult people and the 2 plotters will get booed. If the crowd react so stupidly to small faults what might they do when faced by the totally annoying Marco. They would be odd if that didn't worry them.

Utter rubbish. It's a normal reaction to disliking someone in a pantomine situation. Perfectly normal, just like cheering or clapping or laughing etc.

The rest of your post is just an excuse for you to post abuse against those that dare to express any criticism against your latest, favourite, attractive, female, blonde Reality TV contestant.

Seen it all before, too many times. Try coming up with something new as your posts are now so predictable that I can write them for you.

Eddybee, I don't understand why you are so angry. I think Adele was alright. She played the game and got hammered for it. It's all the people who know what's best for us who slagged off Adele. These are the same people who are booing Vanessa.

Slag everyone off. All of us are tossers in some way. What concerns me is the way that people hold themselves up as some sort of superior person, damning people completely. Just because you want to be tolerant, doesn't mean you can't take the piss...

Why hate and boo. OK if we're having a laugh and it's all a bit of a joke. But is it? There's a lot of people venting their righteous moral outrage on this forum who are deadly serious.